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by Gil Dobie
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:54 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

It's the opposite for Mauer, his best 7 seasons were as a catcher, with a WAR of 3.6 or higher. The reason he dh'ed, was to keep his bat in the lineup. But in the end he only had 5 years where he caught more than 100 times in a season. That's a real small sample size to then only compare him with g...
by Gil Dobie
Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:01 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread
Replies: 2973
Views: 181112

Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Russia turns back North Dakota Based B52's.

Russia: Our Fighters Turned Back B52 Bombers

B52 bombers were intercepted by Russian fighter jets over the Baltic Sea and Black Sea yesterday according to the Russian government.

And it appears the bombers had taken off from Minot Air Force Base.
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:26 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

It's a calculation of WAR, called JAWS, used to calculate HOF worthiness of players. If you look at the baseball reference page and find the spot for HOF JAWS for the players position. For catching, I don't like JAWs as much, because so many "catchers" wind up getting so many starts at ot...
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:02 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

Ok, I just went back and reviewed all hall of farmers. Ones I never heard of I did not rank. I started following in 1962, so I seen at least on tv all since then. I did not worry about managers, execs, etc., only players. The requirement of all time great started to slide in the 90s and more make m...
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:56 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

That's where the line should be drawn. Well, first of all, not sure where Gil got his WAR numbers, but they are not the same as the WAR numbers on Baseball Reference.com. But where you've drawn the line, you've included a steroid wonder (Pudge Rodriguez); a compiler (Fisk); and a guy who should hav...
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

Sabermetrics calculation for Hall of Fame worthiness of the top 20 rated catchers of all-time. 1 Johnny Bench HOF 61.2 2 Gary Carter HOF 59.3 3 Ivan Rodriguez HOF 54.3 4 Carlton Fisk HOF 53.0 5 Mike Piazza HOF 51.4 6 Yogi Berra HOF 49.0 7 Bill Dickey HOF 47.3 8 Joe Mauer 47.0 9 Gabby Hartnett HOF 4...
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

Sabermetrics calculation for Hall of Fame worthiness of the top 20 rated catchers of all-time. 1 Johnny Bench HOF 61.2 2 Gary Carter HOF 59.3 3 Ivan Rodriguez HOF 54.3 4 Carlton Fisk HOF 53.0 5 Mike Piazza HOF 51.4 6 Yogi Berra HOF 49.0 7 Bill Dickey HOF 47.3 8 Joe Mauer 47.0 9 Gabby Hartnett HOF 4...
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

I agree, those two aren't close to being HOF'ers, especially Molina. Good ball players and nice careers, but HOF should be pretty exclusive. Those guys ain't it. The bar got lowered with the election of guys like Baines, Niekro, Sutton, and many other very good, but not great players. I would pull ...
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

I don't think either will sniff the HOF. I agree, those two aren't close to being HOF'ers, especially Molina. Good ball players and nice careers, but HOF should be pretty exclusive. Those guys ain't it. Sabermetrics calculation for Hall of Fame worthiness of the top 20 rated catchers of all-time. 1...
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:21 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

AZGrizFan wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
Ernie Lombardi?


Slap-hitting catchers from the live ball era.....to be exact.


Yadier Molina has a good chance to get in, and maybe Buster Posey.
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:16 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: 2019 Official Baseball Season Thread
Replies: 100
Views: 4342

Re: 2019 Official Baseball Season Thread

Trace rumors, Twins are looking at Bumgarner and Smith from the Giants for 2 top prospects. Both pitchers would be rentals.
by Gil Dobie
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:27 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

I'd take Mauer, both won 3 Gold Gloves, Mauer was a better hitter when he was a catcher. Fielding pct, Mauer .995, Munson .982, passed balls Munson 93, Mauer 40, both were 5-6 points above the league average in catching runners trying to steal. Munson had good press with winning world series titles...
by Gil Dobie
Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

css75 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:A year later and he still doesn't belong.



What about Harold Baines, do you consider him a legit gamer?


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Hall of Fame catcher Rick Ferrell: .281 average, 1962 hits, 45 Home Runs.
by Gil Dobie
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

He was primarily a catcher his for the first 10 years of his career. If he would have retired after 10 years, would he be HOF worthy to you? Name another AL catcher that won a batting title, let alone 3, as a catcher? If you play the games per season game, Johnny Bench played 10, Lombardi 12 and Ro...
by Gil Dobie
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:24 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

He was primarily a catcher his for the first 10 years of his career. If he would have retired after 10 years, would he be HOF worthy to you? Name another AL catcher that won a batting title, let alone 3, as a catcher? If you play the games per season game, Johnny Bench played 10, Lombardi 12 and Ro...
by Gil Dobie
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:05 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

Those stats are only for games as a catcher. Yes, he had a great career as a catcher, no one is arguing that. The argument has always been that Mauer only played predominately catcher for something like 6 years of his career. The rest was played at 1B and DH. He doesn't have HOF stats at those posi...
by Gil Dobie
Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

Mauer's #7 was retired last night. Still a debate or HOF status. Here are a few numbers comparing Joe to all catchers. Demonstrates Mauer was not a power hitter, but a hitter for average. Batting Average (min. 500 games caught) Joe Mauer -- .328 Piazza -- .313 Brian Harper -- .306 Manny Sanguillen ...
by Gil Dobie
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:48 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Political memes, Posters, Funny Pics, Etc.
Replies: 5079
Views: 297467

Re: Political memes, Posters, Funny Pics, Etc.

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by Gil Dobie
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:39 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: 2019 NBA Trades and Draft
Replies: 3
Views: 121

Re: 2019 NBA Trades and Draft

Note to Lakers management......

by Gil Dobie
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:22 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: U.S. Open Championship 2019
Replies: 3
Views: 110

Re: U.S. Open Championship 2019

Nice finish for Woodland, just make the damn first putt.
by Gil Dobie
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:12 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?
Replies: 83
Views: 2998

Re: Joe Mauer Hall of Famer?

Mauer's #7 was retired last night. Still a debate or HOF status. Here are a few numbers comparing Joe to all catchers. Demonstrates Mauer was not a power hitter, but a hitter for average. Batting Average (min. 500 games caught) Joe Mauer -- .328 Piazza -- .313 Brian Harper -- .306 Manny Sanguillen -...
by Gil Dobie
Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:19 am
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: 2019 NBA Trades and Draft
Replies: 3
Views: 121

Re: 2019 NBA Trades and Draft

Sad day to be a Lakers fan, giving up the future for The Chosen One's wishes. Would rather of traded James, who has a lot of down side left, to New Orleans for Davis and keep the young stars. Now they have Davis, James, Kuzma and the thrift store deals of the day on the team. Giving up 4 first round...
by Gil Dobie
Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: 2019 NBA Trades and Draft
Replies: 3
Views: 121

2019 NBA Trades and Draft

Lakers trade for Anthony Davis

Jimmie Buckets opts out
by Gil Dobie
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:16 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: 2018-19 NBA Basketball Thread
Replies: 169
Views: 9126

Re: 2018-19 NBA Basketball Thread

Jimmie Bulter?????
by Gil Dobie
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:13 pm
Forum: Championship Subdivision Football - FCS
Topic: 2019 NDSU Opens Against Butler at Target Field
Replies: 28
Views: 2177

Re: 2019 NDSU Opens Against Butler at Target Field

Butler is FCS, same division as NDSU. :nod: NDSU plays at Oregon next year. Butler is FCS in name only (non scholly Pioneer). Outside of San Diego, that league is a joke. Last time JMU played a Pioneer, 2016 vs Morehead St, it was 80-7. Unfortunately have them scheduled again in 2021 and 2023. Its ...

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