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by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:35 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread
Replies: 4711
Views: 249581

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

I'm ok with it. As a first-world nation, we should continue to contract away from manufacturing and focus on higher-paying jobs in the services industries. Let third-world nations and robots do the dirty stuff. And if some Americans can't keep up with the times, well that's capitalism. :coffee: :lo...
by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:37 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread
Replies: 4711
Views: 249581

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Manufacturing sector contracts for the first time in nearly a decade https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/22/manufacturing-sector-contracts-for-the-first-time-in-nearly-a-decade-according-to-ihs-markit.html?__twitter_impression=true And you’re loving it. Because Trump. I'm ok with it. As a first-world ...
by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: MGGA: Trump has asked aides about possibility of US acquiring Greenland: report
Replies: 109
Views: 1970

Re: MGGA: Trump has asked aides about possibility of US acquiring Greenland: report

When are the rest of you guys all going to agree with me on the proposition that Trump is mentally ill? What is it going to take? Imagine the reaction if that uppity negro Obama called himself "The Chosen One" :shock: You could have seen the Fox News mushroom cloud from space after all we...
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Are Christian Republicans Disloyal?
Replies: 50
Views: 923

Re: Are Christian Republicans Disloyal?

Two things the Talivangicals salivate on that Jesus didn't say a word on: Abortion and Homosexuality. He did say plenty about feeding the poor, healing the sick, welcoming refugees, etc. He did preach against divorce, but if the Talivangicals followed that, half their membership would be gone. http...
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship
Replies: 112
Views: 1764

Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
So you support the idea just not the method? The idea seems like something you’d support.


No. I support neither the idea but ESPECIALLY not the method.

So when Trump issues the executive order, you'll defend your "oath"? :coffee:
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship
Replies: 112
Views: 1764

Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Ivytalk wrote:I leaned early in my career that exaggeration is fatal to a coherent argument, legal or otherwise.

Maybe in the court room, but exaggeration and hyperbole changes worlds. If anything, it's one of the most powerful tools humans have to alter laws.
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship
Replies: 112
Views: 1764

Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

Hasn’t SCOTUS never ruled on the birthright citizenship question? The 14th Amendment was ratified after the War Between the States. The Citizenship Clause was written specifically to deal with the recently freed slaves. It reversed part of the Dred Scott decision which said blacks couldn’t become c...
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:06 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship
Replies: 112
Views: 1764

Re: Trump to End Birthright Citizenship

mainejeff2 wrote:The Constitution is the American Bible according to Conservatives.

I mean it actually is. Just like the Bible, they pick and choose what they like.
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:44 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Are Christian Republicans Disloyal?
Replies: 50
Views: 923

Re: Are Christian Republicans Disloyal?

It never ceases to amaze when people get confused an American Jew might not support the Israeli government.

They're f*ucking Americans, not Israeli.
by ∞∞∞
Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:10 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: MGGA: Trump has asked aides about possibility of US acquiring Greenland: report
Replies: 109
Views: 1970

Re: MGGA: Trump has asked aides about possibility of US acquiring Greenland: report

"Denmark is a very special country with incredible people, but based on Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen’s comments, that she would have no interest in discussing the purchase of Greenland, I will be postponing our meeting scheduled in two weeks for another time," Trump tweeted. He cancel...
by ∞∞∞
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Trump Sets Another All-time Economic Record!!
Replies: 55
Views: 1015

Re: Trump Sets Another All-time Economic Record!!

Well recessions are a bit born from self-fulfilling prophecies. Theoretically, you can have an indefinitely strong economy without ever running across a recession (as long as good economic practices are maintained). Of course human irrationality makes it nearly impossible. We see "signs" o...
by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: MGGA: Trump has asked aides about possibility of US acquiring Greenland: report
Replies: 109
Views: 1970

Re: MGGA: Trump has asked aides about possibility of US acquiring Greenland: report

I'm not against the thought, but I'd want the people of Greenland to be for it. At a fair price, more land and natural resources for any country is never a bad thing

I think we should focus on Puerto Rican statehood first though.
by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:34 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread
Replies: 4711
Views: 249581

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

They don't have to, but If Israel bans legislative members (co-equals to the executive), they shouldn't receive aid or support from our country. Otherwise Israel doesn't have to like them or agree, but they have to acknowledge they're leaders in our representative democracy. These aren't two random...
by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:27 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread
Replies: 4711
Views: 249581

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Yup. If the're wrong about Israel, they'd be happy to directly demonstrate how they're wrong. Banning them makes it clear the women are spot-on in their criticisms. I hope the next administration completely re-evaluates our relationship with Israel. Please explain why they should allow them in? The...
by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:55 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread
Replies: 4711
Views: 249581

Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/politics/israel-visit-ilhan-omar-rashida-tlaib-intl/index.html Israel has decided to ban Democratic congresswomen Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar from entering the country, a spokesman for deputy foreign minister Tzipi Hotovely told CNN on Thursday. The spokesman did not...
by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:24 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Trump Tariffs = Tax Hike on all
Replies: 635
Views: 29179

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The links are for how much the average American household spends on jewelry and boats. In a one-to-one comparison, an upper-class person creates more jobs, but we can't just ignore the ratio of lower/middle-class to upper-class people. That's what I'm getting at. Not to mention, spending on luxury ...
by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:51 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Trump Tariffs = Tax Hike on all
Replies: 635
Views: 29179

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I get your point but your math is wrong and inflates the difference. You don't add 2900+300 and multiply by 80. It doesn't add up even if the lower middle class is only 1%. The links are for how much the average American household spends on jewelry and boats. In a one-to-one comparison, an upper-cl...
by ∞∞∞
Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:14 am
Forum: Politics
Topic: Trump Tariffs = Tax Hike on all
Replies: 635
Views: 29179

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Seriously? :rofl: So you don't understand. I won't hold it against you. :luv: The graphs seem to make Kalm's point. Annually combined, lower/middle households spend more or similar to the upper class. One can also infer that there are significantly more lower/middle class households. From the jewel...
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:46 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Hong Kong demonstrations
Replies: 83
Views: 1745

Re: Hong Kong demonstrations

Ok I don’t have the energy to unpack this tripe The Enlightenment was a eureka moment in civilization - born of all that willing oppressive history you cite It was the birth of classical liberalism which at its heart is individual liberty as a natural right. Please unpack it; I love philosophy and ...
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Hong Kong demonstrations
Replies: 83
Views: 1745

Re: Hong Kong demonstrations

Color me shocked that this is your opinion You just skipped completely over the Enlightenment - liberty is the natural state - each individual essentially wishes to be left alone. What you are describing is group behavior... liberty for me but not for thee... it is pretty much the most pedestrian t...
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Hong Kong demonstrations
Replies: 83
Views: 1745

Re: Hong Kong demonstrations

: a: the power to do as one pleases b: freedom from physical restraint c: freedom from arbitrary or despotic (see despot sense 1) control d: the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges e: the power of choice Liberty. I do not think that word means what you...
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Hong Kong demonstrations
Replies: 83
Views: 1745

Re: Hong Kong demonstrations

Liberty is the natural state of human beings and they will resist totalitarianism - it is as inevitable as death and taxes. That's completely false and most anthropologists and philosophers will tell you so. Humans are social animals which value survival and rules. Most humans will easily ignore li...
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:55 pm
Forum: Other Sports
Topic: Are We Ready for Robo Umps in Baseball?
Replies: 32
Views: 1105

Re: Are We Ready for Robo Umps in Baseball?

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:If human umps were good enough for 150 years why change now, it's part of the game.

Maybe because we didn't have the technology. :?

Anything which increases fairness is good by me. Bring on the robot overlords.
by ∞∞∞
Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Politics
Topic: Trump Sets Another All-time Economic Record!!
Replies: 55
Views: 1015

Re: Trump Sets Another All-time Economic Record!!

Don't forget, he is bringing China to it's knees: China's economy worsens in July, industrial growth at 17-year low as trade war escalates https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-economy-activity/chinas-economy-worsens-in-july-industrial-growth-at-17-year-low-as-trade-war-escalates-idUSKCN1V404X H...

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