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SDHornet wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Sandy Hook? After seeing his "strategy" for dealing with ISIS exposed for the massive, feckless fraud that it is, I thought that the last few days ( since Paris) were the worst of his Presidency.
I dunno about you, but i was thoroughly entertained by it. The "we have ISIS contained" statements followed a few days later by the Paris attacks, followed by his "our strategy is working" statements made in a presser that was on the global stage had me :lol: :lol: :lol: .

And now he is going to try and "phone and pen" his way to more gun control. :? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yeah, I'm real worried about Obama taking away my guns now. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Worst.
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:dunce: :lol: :dunce: :lol:

Best part is yet to come in the form of Hildabeast trying to sell her SOS "experience" on the campaign trail. I mean have you seen some of her last Dem debate clips? :dunce: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
A few days? It was literally a few hours...

Spot on with everything else....
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BDKJMU wrote:
SDHornet wrote: I dunno about you, but i was thoroughly entertained by it. The "we have ISIS contained" statements followed a few days later by the Paris attacks, followed by his "our strategy is working" statements made in a presser that was on the global stage had me :lol: :lol: :lol: .

And now he is going to try and "phone and pen" his way to more gun control. :? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yeah, I'm real worried about Obama taking away my guns now. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Worst.
President.
Ever.

:dunce: :lol: :dunce: :lol:

Best part is yet to come in the form of Hildabeast trying to sell her SOS "experience" on the campaign trail. I mean have you seen some of her last Dem debate clips? :dunce: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
A few days? It was literally a few hours...

Spot on with everything else....
Yeah I didn't really keep track, I had a nice bender going last weekend. :D
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Not bad for a JV team.
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Ibanez wrote:Not bad for a JV team.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwQqNdkyZZo[/youtube]
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ASUG8 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Not bad for a JV team.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwQqNdkyZZo[/youtube]
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houndawg wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwQqNdkyZZo[/youtube]
Guns, bubba. Russia is a different thread. :coffee:
It's OK. There's plenty of Obamafail to go around. :coffee:
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Alternate headline:

"Obama Decides to Increase 2016 Gun Sales"
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houndawg wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwQqNdkyZZo[/youtube]
Guns, bubba. Russia is a different thread. :coffee:
Just a demonstration of the pure cluelessness you helped elect, Barney.
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CID1990 wrote:Alternate headline:

"Obama Decides to Increase 2016 Gun Sales"
This. :nod:

This is exactly what happened last time he made some threat - ammo was cleaned out. If you want to make sure the US has over a half million guns in circulation, just threaten to take them away.
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Baldy wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Guns, bubba. Russia is a different thread. :coffee:
It's OK. There's plenty of Obamafail to go around. :coffee:
No kidding. I've lost track of all the Obamafail going around. So much fail, so little time. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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SDHornet wrote:
Baldy wrote: It's OK. There's plenty of Obamafail to go around. :coffee:
No kidding. I've lost track of all the Obamafail going around. So much fail, so little time. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hang tough, chubby, all of our problems will be over a year from now. :coffee:
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Bump...just as predicted...

Obama to impose new gun control curbs next week
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King Obama at it again.. A year ago with immigration, after the 3 previous years of stating he couldn't change the law by himself, ried to do what he had been claiming he couldn't. He stated he’d acted to “change the law.” It took a fed court, and an affirmation by an appeals court, to slap down Obama's amnesty by exec fiat & tell Obama that he can't unilaterally make new law. Will probably take the same again with so called gun control..
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Hillary would probably prefer he not poke this hornet nest ten months before an election she plans to cruise through.
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93henfan wrote:Hillary would probably prefer he not poke this hornet nest ten months before an election she plans to cruise through.
BS

She already went full pander on it back when Sanders was enemy #1

It will take political contortions impossible to even a Clinton to go back on that now
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CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:Hillary would probably prefer he not poke this hornet nest ten months before an election she plans to cruise through.
BS

She already went full pander on it back when Sanders was enemy #1

It will take political contortions impossible to even a Clinton to go back on that now
I'm not saying she disagrees; just that she would rather do it herself. Obama is essentially busting her nut before she gets to enjoy it, and by election time the anger of the unilateral executive action may adversely affect her campaign.
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CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:Hillary would probably prefer he not poke this hornet nest ten months before an election she plans to cruise through.
BS

She already went full pander on it back when Sanders was enemy #1

It will take political contortions impossible to even a Clinton to go back on that now
No political contortion is too big of a task for a Clinton.
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Meh...I might be wrong, but I think I read that most people are OK with tightening the background check processes (or lack thereof), especially at gun shows...which is the primary aim here. It's not like President Obama is taking firearms away.

I personally don't think this is as big of a deal as some are making of it.

Edit: It's there in the article...89% of people support expanded restrictions at gun shows.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Meh...I might be wrong, but I think I read that most people are OK with tightening the background check processes (or lack thereof), especially at gun shows...which is the primary aim here. It's not like President Obama is taking firearms away.

I personally don't think this is as big of a deal as some are making of it.

Edit: It's there in the article...89% of people support expanded restrictions at gun shows.
The problem is that liberals will never say, "ok, we closed that gunshow loophole; we're done eroding the Second Amendment now." Every time they draw a new line in the sand (aha, an Obamism!), they will step over it and draw a new one.

Here's a get-to-the-nitty-gritty assessment. It's written by a pro-gun guy, but I think it's honest and realistic. I quoted the key passages below. I bolded and enlarged the part that makes it all very disappointing to me and most pro-Constitution people:
The NRA will rightly proclaim that the EO is an egregious infringement on Americans’ right to keep and bear arms. I give it a 40 percent chance that Congress will pass a bill out of the House of Representatives to change things back the way they were, and a 25 percent chance such a bill bill passes the Senate. But that’s where it will end. There’s no chance President Obama will sign such legislation and even less chance that Congress has enough votes for a veto override.

The main problem: the average American doesn’t have a problem with mandating that every firearms transaction involve a federal background check. No matter how hard the NRA presses Congress to change the law it’s not politically viable. For those legislators who need to fight to keep their red seat from turning blue, rolling back Obama’s changes will be branded by the opposition as “re-opening the gun show loophole” and making America less safe.” It’s a rallying cry which pro-gun control pols would use to run roughshod over pro-gun right incumbents.
The best case scenario wouldn’t be a repeal of the executive order. The better option: Congress gets their act together and passes an update to the Gun Control Act of 1968 that allows for individuals to have a Federal Firearms License without being “in the business” of selling guns.

That would re-open the flood gates of private party sales (with background checks!) and enable guns to be shipped directly to the doors of Americans. This would have a similar impact to what Amazon did to the mom and pop stores in cities, leaving only the larger brick and mortar stores to duke it out for the remaining market share. While this would be the best possible outcome from this whole debacle, there’s no more than a 10 percent probability of it ever happening. That’s disappointing, but realistic.

The most likely scenario (and my 90 percent bet) is that nothing happens. Congress fails to act, the SAF lawsuit fails, and the executive orders remain in place. “Gun violence” continues unchecked – because this feel-good measure has nothing whatsoever to do with the real flow of illegal guns. It will only punish America’s law-abiding gun owners. As a result, gun control activists will continue to demand that “something must be done” — again, still. And the window of “acceptable” gun control solutions will creep further and further towards revocation of Americans’ Second Amendment rights, and we play the game again.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Meh...I might be wrong, but I think I read that most people are OK with tightening the background check processes (or lack thereof), especially at gun shows...which is the primary aim here. It's not like President Obama is taking firearms away.

I personally don't think this is as big of a deal as some are making of it.

Edit: It's there in the article...89% of people support expanded restrictions at gun shows.
Count me in the 11%. It's none of the governments fucking business. You make good, law abiding citizens jump through hoops and sacrifice their first born (and ALL their personal information) while the criminals go buy their guns on the streets anyways.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:Meh...I might be wrong, but I think I read that most people are OK with tightening the background check processes (or lack thereof), especially at gun shows...which is the primary aim here. It's not like President Obama is taking firearms away.

I personally don't think this is as big of a deal as some are making of it.

Edit: It's there in the article...89% of people support expanded restrictions at gun shows.
Count me in the 11%. It's none of the governments fucking business. You make good, law abiding citizens jump through hoops and sacrifice their first born (and ALL their personal information) while the criminals go buy their guns on the streets anyways.
Yes. I don't have a link, so crucify me if you must, but something like 90% of violent gun crime is committed with illegal guns by black men in five or six cities. This executive order will do nothing to stop that.
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93henfan wrote:
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Count me in the 11%. It's none of the governments fucking business. You make good, law abiding citizens jump through hoops and sacrifice their first born (and ALL their personal information) while the criminals go buy their guns on the streets anyways.
Yes. I don't have a link, so crucify me if you must, but something like 90% of violent gun crime is committed with illegal guns by black men in five or six cities. This executive order will do nothing to stop that.
There's not a law on the books or a law that COULD be on the books that will do anything to stop that.
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