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The law also told EPA to develop rules requiring individual companies that handled toxic materials to secure bonds to cover future cleanup — in other words, arrange cleanup ahead of time. But the EPA failed to enact the second part.

Until now.

The U.S. Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia issued a far-reaching ruling recently ordering EPA to complete rules to set up the bonding procedure. The Idaho Conservation League brought the case to court, represented by Earthjustice, a national nonprofit environmental law firm, along with Earthworks, Sierra Club and others............

Idaho’s mining industry has become better at leaving fewer messes, because it knows it will have to pay the price at the end. If they can show they have less chance to cause future pollution, they get to pay smaller bonds. The system isn’t perfect, but if the EPA follows the order, miners, chemical companies and others whose hazardous materials could pollute the land and water would have an incentive to reduce the risk of a mess.

“There is a reason why landlords require security and cleaning deposits from renters,” said Justin Hayes, Idaho Conservation League program manager. “It creates an incentive for the renter to treat the apartment with respect and clean up before they move out. And if they don’t, the landlord has the deposit money to make things right.”
Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/loca ... rylink=cpy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What a novel idea...responsibility. Why wasn't the EPA enforcing the rules in the first place? :suspicious:
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The EPA. We'll fight global warming tooth and nail, but don't ask us to protect your drinking water.

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Pwns wrote:The EPA. We'll fight global warming tooth and nail, but don't ask us to protect your drinking water.

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And he would be losing as typical.

Any large organization will have it's wins and losses so I agree with you somewhat.

Sometimes (as in this case) it's about simply applying the laws already on the books. Apparently, the Obama administration was as interested in enforcement here as it was on Wall Street. :ohno: And Watt and Gorsuch did practically everything they could to undermine environmental protection under Reagan. :ohno: :ohno:
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kalm wrote:Image
The law also told EPA to develop rules requiring individual companies that handled toxic materials to secure bonds to cover future cleanup — in other words, arrange cleanup ahead of time. But the EPA failed to enact the second part.

Until now.

The U.S. Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia issued a far-reaching ruling recently ordering EPA to complete rules to set up the bonding procedure. The Idaho Conservation League brought the case to court, represented by Earthjustice, a national nonprofit environmental law firm, along with Earthworks, Sierra Club and others............

Idaho’s mining industry has become better at leaving fewer messes, because it knows it will have to pay the price at the end. If they can show they have less chance to cause future pollution, they get to pay smaller bonds. The system isn’t perfect, but if the EPA follows the order, miners, chemical companies and others whose hazardous materials could pollute the land and water would have an incentive to reduce the risk of a mess.

“There is a reason why landlords require security and cleaning deposits from renters,” said Justin Hayes, Idaho Conservation League program manager. “It creates an incentive for the renter to treat the apartment with respect and clean up before they move out. And if they don’t, the landlord has the deposit money to make things right.”
Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/loca ... rylink=cpy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What a novel idea...responsibility. Why wasn't the EPA enforcing the rules in the first place? :suspicious:
Rules. :lol:

Are only for some people. :nod:
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Baldy wrote:
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Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/loca ... rylink=cpy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What a novel idea...responsibility. Why wasn't the EPA enforcing the rules in the first place? :suspicious:
Rules. :lol:

Are only for some people. :nod:
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Pwns wrote:The EPA. We'll fight global warming tooth and nail, but don't ask us to protect your drinking water.

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Would love to see T-man take kalm over his knee just one more time. :nod:
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Baldy wrote:
Pwns wrote:The EPA. We'll fight global warming tooth and nail, but don't ask us to protect your drinking water.

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Would love to see T-man take kalm over his knee just one more time. :nod:
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There is a real need in this country to slap the Judiciary at all levels down and create a situation where you can't have looney tune groups like the Sierra Club effectively making public policy by getting courts to agree with them.

As though the EPA isn't causing enough shit already. Actually that's another thing that needs to be slapped down.
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JohnStOnge wrote:There is a real need in this country to slap the Judiciary at all levels down and create a situation where you can't have looney tune groups like the Sierra Club effectively making public policy by getting courts to agree with them.

As though the EPA isn't causing enough shit already. Actually that's another thing that needs to be slapped down.
What about the ruling do you disagree with? Why shouldn't polluters be held accountable for the harm and expense they cause others? How would the market force them to be responsible?
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