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Re: "I wake up in a house built by slaves"

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Chizzang wrote:
UNI88 wrote:Are you really debating which POTUS (Bush II or Obama) was worse in regard to the debt? That's kind of like arguing which presidential candidate (Clinton II or Trump) is worse? They're both bottom of the barrel choices x 2.
We're debating if we are either 16 years or 8 years into the End Days

It's nuanced

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This country has come a long way, there is a minority in the White house, too bad his presidency also set America back to 60's time race relations.

Racism in America will never die because certain individuals (Michelle Obama) continue to remind everyone that slavery that ended 150 years ago is still somehow affecting African Americans lives today :roll:
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Wildcat Ryan wrote:This country has come a long way, there is a minority in the White house, too bad his presidency also set America back to 60's time race relations.

Racism in America will never die because certain individuals (Michelle Obama) continue to remind everyone that slavery that ended 150 years ago is still somehow affecting African Americans lives today :roll:
That ain't what she said. It is what a bunch of babbling white guys are saying she said but it isn't.

Let's say a guy like AZGriz told us a story of how he started out at a young age working as a floor sweeper/janitor for a bank. He lived in a country that gave him the fucking opportunity to work hard and make something of himself and move up the ladder until one day he is the CEO of that bank.

That was her fucking point you bunch of drama manufacturing simpletons.

Try to not act some liberal bitches always being offended by any little thing you can make up about someone you don't like. Your life will be a little bit better.
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Re: "I wake up in a house built by slaves"

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Chizzang wrote:
UNI88 wrote:Are you really debating which POTUS (Bush II or Obama) was worse in regard to the debt? That's kind of like arguing which presidential candidate (Clinton II or Trump) is worse? They're both bottom of the barrel choices x 2.
We're debating if we are either 16 years or 8 years into the End Days

It's nuanced

:coffee:
We're finishing up 16 years of crappy presidential and congressional leadership and looking at at least 4 more. Fortunately, this country is a lot more resilient than people give it credit it for so we've got a ways to go before we approach End Days. We survived Fillmore, Pierce and Buchanan as well as Harding, Coolidge and Hoover so we should be able to survive this stretch.

The anger/dissatisfaction with the established political order will likely lead to more unrest and uncertainty but could and will hopefully lead to better leadership in the long-term. Sometimes you have to hit bottom or close to it before you can start the climb.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:This country has come a long way, there is a minority in the White house, too bad his presidency also set America back to 60's time race relations.

Racism in America will never die because certain individuals (Michelle Obama) continue to remind everyone that slavery that ended 150 years ago is still somehow affecting African Americans lives today :roll:
That ain't what she said. It is what a bunch of babbling white guys are saying she said but it isn't.

Let's say a guy like AZGriz told us a story of how he started out at a young age working as a floor sweeper/janitor for a bank. He lived in a country that gave him the fucking opportunity to work hard and make something of himself and move up the ladder until one day he is the CEO of that bank.

That was her fucking point you bunch of drama manufacturing simpletons.

Try to not act some liberal bitches always being offended by any little thing you can make up about someone you don't like. Your life will be a little bit better.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Wildcat Ryan wrote:This country has come a long way, there is a minority in the White house, too bad his presidency also set America back to 60's time race relations.

Racism in America will never die because certain individuals (Michelle Obama) continue to remind everyone that slavery that ended 150 years ago is still somehow affecting African Americans lives today :roll:
That ain't what she said. It is what a bunch of babbling white guys are saying she said but it isn't.

Let's say a guy like AZGriz told us a story of how he started out at a young age working as a floor sweeper/janitor for a bank. He lived in a country that gave him the fucking opportunity to work hard and make something of himself and move up the ladder until one day he is the CEO of that bank.

That was her fucking point you bunch of drama manufacturing simpletons.

Try to not act some liberal bitches always being offended by any little thing you can make up about someone you don't like. Your life will be a little bit better.
I didn't realize I told you my life story last night when we talked. :kisswink:
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UNI88 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
We're debating if we are either 16 years or 8 years into the End Days

It's nuanced

:coffee:
We're finishing up 16 years of crappy presidential and congressional leadership and looking at at least 4 more. Fortunately, this country is a lot more resilient than people give it credit it for so we've got a ways to go before we approach End Days. We survived Fillmore, Pierce and Buchanan as well as Harding, Coolidge and Hoover so we should be able to survive this stretch.

The anger/dissatisfaction with the established political order will likely lead to more unrest and uncertainty but could and will hopefully lead to better leadership in the long-term. Sometimes you have to hit bottom or close to it before you can start the climb.
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Ivytalk wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
We're finishing up 16 years of crappy presidential and congressional leadership and looking at at least 4 more. Fortunately, this country is a lot more resilient than people give it credit it for so we've got a ways to go before we approach End Days. We survived Fillmore, Pierce and Buchanan as well as Harding, Coolidge and Hoover so we should be able to survive this stretch.

The anger/dissatisfaction with the established political order will likely lead to more unrest and uncertainty but could and will hopefully lead to better leadership in the long-term. Sometimes you have to hit bottom or close to it before you can start the climb.
And Carter. Don't you dare forget Carter. :coffee:

:rofl:

and Reagan
and Ford
and LBJ
and Eisenhower
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ursus A. Horribilis wrote: That ain't what she said. It is what a bunch of babbling white guys are saying she said but it isn't.

Let's say a guy like AZGriz told us a story of how he started out at a young age working as a floor sweeper/janitor for a bank. He lived in a country that gave him the fucking opportunity to work hard and make something of himself and move up the ladder until one day he is the CEO of that bank.

That was her fucking point you bunch of drama manufacturing simpletons.

Try to not act some liberal bitches always being offended by any little thing you can make up about someone you don't like. Your life will be a little bit better.
I didn't realize I told you my life story last night when we talked. :kisswink:
I missed some of it cuz I was practicing poppin & lockin for most of the call but I got the gist of it and realized how similar you and Michelle's points were. :thumb:

You are both good and appreciative Americans. Much respect dogsie.
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Chizzang wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: And Carter. Don't you dare forget Carter. :coffee:

:rofl:

and Reagan
and Ford
and LBJ
and Eisenhower
Don't fuck with Reagan. I'll come at you like a biplane propeller made out of fists.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

:rofl:

and Reagan
and Ford
and LBJ
and Eisenhower
Don't fuck with Reagan. I'll come at you like a biplane propeller made out of fists.
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Ursus A. Horribilis wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I didn't realize I told you my life story last night when we talked. :kisswink:
I missed some of it cuz I was practicing poppin & lockin for most of the call but I got the gist of it and realized how similar you and Michelle's points were. :thumb:

You are both good and appreciative Americans. Much respect dogsie.
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So, basically the only decent president we've had since WWII was Nixon?
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AZGrizFan wrote:So, basically the only decent president we've had since WWII was Nixon?
Nah, Truman rocked. :thumb:
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Chizzang, you must find it in your heart to stop this beating right now, even if we don't actually have a three knockdown rule here on CS..

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Wedgebuster wrote:Chizzang, you must find it in your heart to stop this beating right now, even if we don't actually have a three knockdown rule here on CS..

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AshevilleApp wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:Chizzang, you must find it in your heart to stop this beating right now, even if we don't actually have a three knockdown rule here on CS..

:rofl:
Oops, I think I misread your post.
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AZGrizFan wrote:So, basically the only decent president we've had since WWII was Nixon?
Nixon did a lot of good. Ike was prescient.

I'd go:
Ike
Nixon
Kennedy (hampered by a short career)
Truman
Johnson
Clinton
Bush I
Carter
Obama
Bush II
Reagan
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:So, basically the only decent president we've had since WWII was Nixon?
Nixon did a lot of good. Ike was prescient.

I'd go:
Ike
Nixon
Kennedy (hampered by a short career)
Truman
Clinton
Bush I
Carter
Obama
Bush II
Reagan
You lost your Johnson again. :lol:

We disagree on Reagan but otherwise not a bad list.
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:So, basically the only decent president we've had since WWII was Nixon?
Nixon did a lot of good. Ike was prescient.

I'd go:
Ike
Nixon
Kennedy (hampered by a short career)
Truman
Clinton
Bush I
Carter
Obama
Bush II
Reagan
I'd go:

Reagan
Nixon
Kennedy
Ike
Truman
Johnson
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II
Carter
Obama

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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Nixon did a lot of good. Ike was prescient.

I'd go:
Ike
Nixon
Kennedy (hampered by a short career)
Truman
Clinton
Bush I
Carter
Obama
Bush II
Reagan
You lost your Johnson again. :lol:

We disagree on Reagan but otherwise not a bad list.
You bit on about the most obvious troll ever devised on this board.

Even Tman wouldn't have nibbled on that one


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CID1990 wrote:
UNI88 wrote: You lost your Johnson again. :lol:

We disagree on Reagan but otherwise not a bad list.
You bit on about the most obvious troll ever devised on this board.

Even Tman wouldn't have nibbled on that one


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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Nixon did a lot of good. Ike was prescient.

I'd go:
Ike
Nixon
Kennedy (hampered by a short career)
Truman
Clinton
Bush I
Carter
Obama
Bush II
Reagan
You lost your Johnson again. :lol:

We disagree on Reagan but otherwise not a bad list.
Fixed it. Thanks for the correction. :oops:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Nixon did a lot of good. Ike was prescient.

I'd go:
Ike
Nixon
Kennedy (hampered by a short career)
Truman
Clinton
Bush I
Carter
Obama
Bush II
Reagan
I'd go:

Reagan
Nixon
Kennedy
Ike
Truman
Johnson
Bush I
Clinton
Bush II
Carter
Obama

:coffee:
Agreed except for Johnson- he gave us the 2 massive, unsustainable, entitlement programs, medicare and medicaid, that are going to bury us financially. For that he drops down at least 2 spots..at least below Clinton...
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