Joni Ernst?

[Ibanez]

Michael Card wrote the classic El Shaddai. I'm sure you know who made THAT song famous.

Someone who has a lot in common with Donald Trump!!

Both are adulters!

*adulterers.


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[bulldog10jw]

Someone who has a lot in common with Donald Trump!!

Both are adulters!

Bill Clinton ?

[UNI88]

John, the Republican electorate was tired and mad at being taken for granted and many of them voted for Trump in response. The Republican elite/establishment created this situation by taking them for granted and are at least 50% responsible for the shitstorm that is Trump. When are you going to stop placing 100% of the blame on the electorate and assign some to these narcissistic azzholes?

They could've picked at least three and probably more of the other Republican alternatives and blown Clinton out. Also would've had a chance to increase their strength in Congress. Instead, they picked a complete looney tune who at this point would have to be characterized as probably losing. And he'll probably harm the Congressional races.

Then if he DOES somehow win because Clinton is such a bad candidate they'll have put a nut job into the office.

Please answer the question - When are you going to stop placing 100% of the blame on the electorate and assign some to the narcissistic azzholes who "run" the Republican party?

[Ibanez]

Joni is out.

[HI54UNI]

Joni is out.

She was never in.

[HI54UNI]

Who the hell is Michael Card?

Michael Card wrote the classic El Shaddai. I'm sure you know who made THAT song famous.

A marriage wrecking whore made that song famous!

[kalm]

They could've picked at least three and probably more of the other Republican alternatives and blown Clinton out. Also would've had a chance to increase their strength in Congress. Instead, they picked a complete looney tune who at this point would have to be characterized as probably losing. And he'll probably harm the Congressional races.

Then if he DOES somehow win because Clinton is such a bad candidate they'll have put a nut job into the office.

Please answer the question - When are you going to stop placing 100% of the blame on the electorate and assign some to the narcissistic azzholes who "run" the Republican party?

This. Who attracted that electorate?

[HI54UNI]

They could've picked at least three and probably more of the other Republican alternatives and blown Clinton out. Also would've had a chance to increase their strength in Congress. Instead, they picked a complete looney tune who at this point would have to be characterized as probably losing. And he'll probably harm the Congressional races.

Then if he DOES somehow win because Clinton is such a bad candidate they'll have put a nut job into the office.

Please answer the question - When are you going to stop placing 100% of the blame on the electorate and assign some to the narcissistic azzholes who "run" the Republican party?

Agreed. The Republican party establishment killed the Iowa Straw Poll because it was supposed to clear the way for Bush but instead it backfired on them. Instead of helping wean the field it let all the losers that didn't have a chance stay in, helping Trump.

[Ibanez]

Joni is out.

She was never in.

No, she was being courted as a potential but she's made it clear now that she isn't interested.


My money is on Newt Gingrich. That would be a smart pick.


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[YoUDeeMan]

She was never in.

No, she was being courted as a potential but she's made it clear now that she isn't interested.


My money is on Newt Gingrich. That would be a smart pick.


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No...find a smart female Latino.

[HI54UNI]

She was never in.

No, she was being courted as a potential but she's made it clear now that she isn't interested.


My money is on Newt Gingrich. That would be a smart pick.


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She was being talked about but she never had a chance. There's no way in hell she is ready for the VP slot.

[SDHornet]

No, she was being courted as a potential but she's made it clear now that she isn't interested.


My money is on Newt Gingrich. That would be a smart pick.


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No...find a smart female Latino.

Yes, a wise Latina can go a long time...I mean way...

[dbackjon]

Someone who has a lot in common with Donald Trump!!

Both are adulters!

Bill Clinton ?

Nah, he doesn't sing Christian Music

[dbackjon]

She was never in.

No, she was being courted as a potential but she's made it clear now that she isn't interested.


My money is on Newt Gingrich. That would be a smart pick.


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The Six Wives Club!

[JohnStOnge]

Please answer the question - When are you going to stop placing 100% of the blame on the electorate and assign some to the narcissistic azzholes who "run" the Republican party?

Never. If a person supported Donald Trump during the Republican primaries that is on them. It was a stupid thing to do. They might not all be stupid people. But in each and every case the decision to support Donald Trump was a stupid thing to do.

[kalm]

Please answer the question - When are you going to stop placing 100% of the blame on the electorate and assign some to the narcissistic azzholes who "run" the Republican party?

Never. If a person supported Donald Trump during the Republican primaries that is on them. It was a stupid thing to do. They might not all be stupid people. But in each and every case the decision to support Donald Trump was a stupid thing to do.

Nice reply!

So if you, JSO, were a part of the Republican machine, an operative, an insider... what now is your game plan?

'Look guys, it's obvious our electorate is plain and simply stupid. We need to go out and find some smarter supporters...stat!'

[UNI88]

Never. If a person supported Donald Trump during the Republican primaries that is on them. It was a stupid thing to do. They might not all be stupid people. But in each and every case the decision to support Donald Trump was a stupid thing to do.

Nice reply!

So if you, JSO, were a part of the Republican machine, an operative, an insider... what now is your game plan?

'Look guys, it's obvious our electorate is plain and simply stupid. We need to go out and find some smarter supporters...stat!'

That would be JSO's approach when in reality it should be 'Look guys, it's obvious our electorate is on to us, they're not as naive and gullible as we thought. Maybe we should stop taking them for granted and actually try and be real leaders for the first time in a long time!'

[JohnStOnge]

So if you, JSO, were a part of the Republican machine, an operative, an insider... what now is your game plan?

'Look guys, it's obvious our electorate is plain and simply stupid. We need to go out and find some smarter supporters...stat!'

I think I've basically indicated what I would do already in referring to the situation when David Duke was the Republican candidate running for Governor of Louisiana. The Louisiana Republican Party apparatus refused to back him. I think that's what the national Republican Party apparatus should do with respect to Trump.

I think that would be best for the Republican Party in the long term. Refuse to support Trump. Articulate the reasons why. Endure the short term ramifications.

But by falling in line behind Trump, I think, they are ruining their "brand" for years to come. Plus there's just the matter of integrity. There's a point at which you have to just say, "I'm sorry, this is just not acceptable."

If you have to sell your soul to win you have gained nothing and lost everything.

[JohnStOnge]

That would be JSO's approach when in reality it should be 'Look guys, it's obvious our electorate is on to us, they're not as naive and gullible as we thought. !'

You're kidding, right? You're actually saying that the Republican electorate voting in a sufficient plurality to make Trump the nominee is supposed to make one think it's NOT naive and gullible?

The conclusion based on having had them support Trump is, "They are even MORE naive and gullible than we thought."

[kalm]

That would be JSO's approach when in reality it should be 'Look guys, it's obvious our electorate is on to us, they're not as naive and gullible as we thought. !'

You're kidding, right? You're actually saying that the Republican electorate voting in a sufficient plurality to make Trump the nominee is supposed to make one think it's NOT naive and gullible?

The conclusion based on having had them support Trump is, "They are even MORE naive and gullible than we thought."

You're dodging the point. The Republican party establishment helped create a culture where someone like Trump is a viable candidate. And you know what? If you believe the current political system is flawed and corrupt, a vote for Trump is still a smarter vote than for Hillary.

[kalm]

John, here's a specific example of what I'm talking about. This guys speaks you're exact language when it comes to gays. The Republican party created a culture where this guy could become a district court judge in Texas, a 6 - term congressman, and even try and run for Speaker of the House. It's not...all of a sudden...just Trump.

Watch the entire clip. I find him strangely mesmerizing to listen to.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCWJINpJx88[/youtube]

(And yes, for purposes of balance, the Guam dude gives him a run for his money )

[kalm]

double post

[YoUDeeMan]

double post

It was worth posting twice.

JSO...the man in the mirror.

[kalm]

double post

It was worth posting twice.

JSO...the man in the mirror.

I almost posted a picture of a mirror.

[JohnStOnge]

John, here's a specific example of what I'm talking about. This guys speaks you're exact language when it comes to gays. The Republican party created a culture where this guy could become a district court judge in Texas, a 6 - term congressman, and even try and run for Speaker of the House. It's not...all of a sudden...just Trump.

Watch the entire clip. I find him strangely mesmerizing to listen to.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCWJINpJx88[/youtube]

(And yes, for purposes of balance, the Guam dude gives him a run for his money )

I don't think that I invoke the Bible much in discussing the disfunctional nature of homosexuality. But, though he is clumsy, he did raise an interesting question with the scenario about what you would do if you wanted to preserve a dioecious species.

Also, he may be correct in stating that the American Psychiatric Association Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, for most of its existence, identified homosexuality as a disorder. At some point, if we haven't already, we will pass the point where it will not have done that through most of its existence. But that's not really the point.

I have said before and I'll say again that I think the decision to stop calling homosexuality a disorder was a political/philosophical decision and not a scientific one.