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But maybe his charge is alive because of it. I'd hate for people in that position to say the hell with it, he's just an autistic kid. Let him get killed.
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andy7171 wrote: People taking Sprout for serious. :ohno:
Sprout is outed!! And I didn't say serious, just stupid. ;)
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andy7171 wrote:He had a truck in his hand! Didn't some lunatic just kill 84 Frenchies with a truck in Nice???
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andy7171 wrote:
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Sprout is outed!! And I didn't say serious, just stupid. ;)
I can't claim credit for "Sprout" I was calling him Alphia and bandle coined it.
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According to the police union - he meant to shoot the autistic kid. :x

Though, I guess it would be easier to stage a defense saying you thought the autistic kid was armed... than shooting the caregiver in the street with his hands in the air.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:It's not up to me to teach you guys, get the info on your own and make your own decision.

Also none of you get to FORCE anything on me and a try to insinuate that I think the cop is in the right. He's not and should be fired. The guy with the bullets in him could have avoided this 100% but he chose to get involved

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But maybe his charge is alive because of it. I'd hate for people in that position to say the hell with it, he's just an autistic kid. Let him get killed.
That's not the point, in theory he did the humane thing but injecting himself into something that was technically none of his business.. now he needs to deal with that decision.

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But maybe his charge is alive because of it. I'd hate for people in that position to say the hell with it, he's just an autistic kid. Let him get killed.
That's not the point, in theory he did the humane thing but injecting himself into something that was technically none of his business.. now he needs to deal with that decision.

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It was his job. ;)

And since the cop was aiming at the autistic kid and not him, I'd say the onus is on the cop now.
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None of the details matter, blame the white cop

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:None of the details matter, blame the white cop

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Wasn't this cop a Hispanic?
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:None of the details matter, blame the white cop

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Ibanez wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:None of the details matter, blame the white cop

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Wasn't this cop a Hispanic?
Fu*k you I can run around uninformed and making gross generalizations just like everyone else....cracka

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Wasn't this cop a Hispanic?
Fu*k you I can run around uninformed and making gross generalizations just like everyone else....cracka

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The current state of Law enforcement is fucked. This did not happen over night.
1. Too many GED cops (80% do not have a college degree)
2. Too many wannabe Spec. Ops wimps. That's why they all look like there in SEAL Team 6........lol
3. Bad training from day one. Current training model teaches these guys to look at the community that they are serving as the enemy. How can you hate the people that you are sworn to protect?
4. Too many bigots on the force and the know it.
5. Not enough cops live in the community that they serve. THIS IS THE BIGGEST FACTOR.
6. The so called war on drugs brought rise to the militarization of Law Enforcement. Thank You President Reagan.

This is why I left Law Enforcement in December 2003.
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mrklean wrote:The current state of Law enforcement is ****. This did not happen over night.
1. Too many GED cops (80% do not have a college degree)
5. Not enough cops live in the community that they serve. THIS IS THE BIGGEST FACTOR.
6. The so called war on drugs brought rise to the militarization of Law Enforcement. Thank You President Reagan.

This is why I left Law Enforcement in December 2003.
You didn't leave law enforcement- you left being a baby sitter, Turnkey.

I dropped the really dumb points in your post but highlighted the ones above that are non-starters (like wishing the sky was green)

The first one is not accurate. Not having a college degree does not mean you have a GED, but we'll skip over that misleading bit to say that most police departments with more than 50 officers REQUIRE college degrees. This has been a trend since the 1980s. There are plenty of small town police departments and small sheriffs departments that don't have the degree requirement but they do not constitute 80% of police.

Number 5 will never happen. It get repeated by a lot of people who know little to nothing about law enforcement, like you. No way in FUCK was I ever going to live in the Team 1 area in Charleston. One, I;m not going to live where people would be shooting into my house every night. Two, it is a known FACT that police officers are jeopardized when the public knows where they live. If you want to kill a cop, why wait for him to be in uniform? Shott him on his front stoop while he's picking up his newspaper. Make residency a requirement and you'll reap a whole new set of problems that are worse than what we have.

BTW- a sidebar to the residency issue is a tacit admission on your part that shitty neighborhoods are the biggest consumers of police services. This is why police encounter minorities much, much more frequently than whites- because they are summoned by minorities more. The flip side of this is that nobody is going to pay for me to live downtown south of Calhoun Street in Charleston if that is my patrol area. The bottom line is that police are middle class workers and they are going to live where they can afford to just like everybody else. Read up on residency requirement studies and their effects on recruiting and you'll see that this is an ignorant suggestion. The IACP has done a few studies as well as others, if you care to look them up.

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
AshevilleApp wrote:
But maybe his charge is alive because of it. I'd hate for people in that position to say the hell with it, he's just an autistic kid. Let him get killed.
And, the dude was his caretaker at a group home.

I'm not 100%... but, I'd assume that if a caretaker at a group home allows his wards to play with toy trucks in the street unsupervised... he's going to get fired at the very least... and, probably arrested and charged with some kind of neglect.
If the kid in the video is like my kid, all it takes is an open door and he is gone. We just bought a dog for my son and shortly we will be taking the dog to tracking classes.

I would hope cops don't shoot my autistic two year old! Ha!
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CID1990 wrote:
mrklean wrote:The current state of Law enforcement is ****. This did not happen over night.
1. Too many GED cops (80% do not have a college degree)
5. Not enough cops live in the community that they serve. THIS IS THE BIGGEST FACTOR.
6. The so called war on drugs brought rise to the militarization of Law Enforcement. Thank You President Reagan.

This is why I left Law Enforcement in December 2003.
You didn't leave law enforcement- you left being a baby sitter, Turnkey. I was a law enforcement officer. Remember, all federal LE officers no matter what department you are employed, are registered as a deputy Marshals. Yes, I was on the federal fugitive task force.

I dropped the really dumb points in your post but highlighted the ones above that are non-starters (like wishing the sky was green)

The first one is not accurate. Not having a college degree does not mean you have a GED, but we'll skip over that misleading bit to say that most police departments with more than 50 officers REQUIRE college degrees. This has been a trend since the 1980s. There are plenty of small town police departments and small sheriffs departments that don't have the degree requirement but they do not constitute 80% of police. Over 70% of Police Departments are classified as Small to medium. When you raise the requirements, you will get a better applicant as a police officer. Not a guy who wants to be a Police because the local mill closed down.

Number 5 will never happen. It get repeated by a lot of people who know little to nothing about law enforcement, like you. No way in **** was I ever going to live in the Team 1 area in Charleston. One, I;m not going to live where people would be shooting into my house every night. Two, it is a known FACT that police officers are jeopardized when the public knows where they live. If you want to kill a cop, why wait for him to be in uniform? Shott him on his front stoop while he's picking up his newspaper. Make residency a requirement and you'll reap a whole new set of problems that are worse than what we have. That's a bullshit excuse. It works for the city of Chicago and Detroit.

BTW- a sidebar to the residency issue is a tacit admission on your part that shitty neighborhoods are the biggest consumers of police services. This is why police encounter minorities much, much more frequently than whites- because they are summoned by minorities more. The flip side of this is that nobody is going to pay for me to live downtown south of Calhoun Street in Charleston if that is my patrol area. The bottom line is that police are middle class workers and they are going to live where they can afford to just like everybody else. Read up on residency requirement studies and their effects on recruiting and you'll see that this is an ignorant suggestion. The IACP has done a few studies as well as others, if you care to look them up.

The War on Drugs was begun by Nixon and has been strengthened by every single president since then. Nice try hanging it on Republicans, but Democrats have ushered in some of the biggest expansions in the WOD (Clinton) so there's that.
Check your history. Before Dutch took office, most police departments did not have a SWAT/SRT unit. However, after he was elected, he sold all of the surplus Vietnam supplies to police departments around the country. Now Mule Azz, Montana has a SWAT Team.
BTW, it was the CIA that was shipping that crap into the inter-cities. But you probably think that's another liberal lie. There is a full U.S. Justice Department file with names a dates of CIA officers and shipments. including Oliver North. Montel Williams lost his show because he had the journalist who first broke the story about the link between the drug lords and the CIA on his show.
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CID1990 wrote:Number 5 will never happen. It get repeated by a lot of people who know little to nothing about law enforcement, like you. No way in **** was I ever going to live in the Team 1 area in Charleston. One, I;m not going to live where people would be shooting into my house every night. Two, it is a known FACT that police officers are jeopardized when the public knows where they live. If you want to kill a cop, why wait for him to be in uniform? Shott him on his front stoop while he's picking up his newspaper. Make residency a requirement and you'll reap a whole new set of problems that are worse than what we have.
That's a bullshit excuse. It works for the city of Chicago and Detroit.
Chicago might not be the best example of something working between police and residents. 1) Chicago is a violent city. 2) Chicago cops are taking a lot of heat because of violence against others. 3) Chicago cops are required to live in the City of Chicago, not the specific neighborhood, community or precinct that they patrol and that covers a huge amount of space. Chicago cops like to live in Sauganash and similar neighborhoods; there aren't many living in Englewood.
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mrklean wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You didn't leave law enforcement- you left being a baby sitter, Turnkey. I was a law enforcement officer. Remember, all federal LE officers no matter what department you are employed, are registered as a deputy Marshals. Yes, I was on the federal fugitive task force.

I dropped the really dumb points in your post but highlighted the ones above that are non-starters (like wishing the sky was green)

The first one is not accurate. Not having a college degree does not mean you have a GED, but we'll skip over that misleading bit to say that most police departments with more than 50 officers REQUIRE college degrees. This has been a trend since the 1980s. There are plenty of small town police departments and small sheriffs departments that don't have the degree requirement but they do not constitute 80% of police. Over 70% of Police Departments are classified as Small to medium. When you raise the requirements, you will get a better applicant as a police officer. Not a guy who wants to be a Police because the local mill closed down.

Number 5 will never happen. It get repeated by a lot of people who know little to nothing about law enforcement, like you. No way in **** was I ever going to live in the Team 1 area in Charleston. One, I;m not going to live where people would be shooting into my house every night. Two, it is a known FACT that police officers are jeopardized when the public knows where they live. If you want to kill a cop, why wait for him to be in uniform? Shott him on his front stoop while he's picking up his newspaper. Make residency a requirement and you'll reap a whole new set of problems that are worse than what we have. That's a bullshit excuse. It works for the city of Chicago and Detroit.

BTW- a sidebar to the residency issue is a tacit admission on your part that shitty neighborhoods are the biggest consumers of police services. This is why police encounter minorities much, much more frequently than whites- because they are summoned by minorities more. The flip side of this is that nobody is going to pay for me to live downtown south of Calhoun Street in Charleston if that is my patrol area. The bottom line is that police are middle class workers and they are going to live where they can afford to just like everybody else. Read up on residency requirement studies and their effects on recruiting and you'll see that this is an ignorant suggestion. The IACP has done a few studies as well as others, if you care to look them up.

The War on Drugs was begun by Nixon and has been strengthened by every single president since then. Nice try hanging it on Republicans, but Democrats have ushered in some of the biggest expansions in the WOD (Clinton) so there's that.
Check your history. Before Dutch took office, most police departments did not have a SWAT/SRT unit. However, after he was elected, he sold all of the surplus Vietnam supplies to police departments around the country. Now Mule Azz, Montana has a SWAT Team.
BTW, it was the CIA that was shipping that crap into the inter-cities. But you probably think that's another liberal lie. There is a full U.S. Justice Department file with names a dates of CIA officers and shipments. including Oliver North. Montel Williams lost his show because he had the journalist who first broke the story about the link between the drug lords and the CIA on his show.

All Spandos-esque rants about the CIA aside (which have nothing to do with what I said OR your original ignorant post) I'll respond - since maybe not everyone on the forum yet knows how full of crap you are on this subject-

1. You can tell everyone here you were Federal LE and they won't have a clue what you are talking about - but you are forgetting who you are talking to. You were NEVER a cop. You were a turnkey. And don't go near talking about the task forces because they were and still are the dumping ground of the Federal agencies- and the Marshal's Task Force in Charleston was one of the biggest fly by night useless operations in town. And nobody in those task forces knew the first thing about good judgment or actual police work.

2. Your stat is correct but your reading of it is not- 70% of of police departments are small to medium but they do not make up 70% of police officers (and your claim was 80% of police officers do not have degrees). The majority of police officer work at departments that require degrees. Second, most of those medium sized police departments do have degree requirements so you are just pulling all of this completely out of your ass.

3. NO, it does not work for Chicago and Detroit.

4. Nobody gives a sh!t about the CIA or the crackheads in LA
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Skjellyfetti wrote:According to the police union - he meant to shoot the autistic kid. :x

Though, I guess it would be easier to stage a defense saying you thought the autistic kid was armed... than shooting the caregiver in the street with his hands in the air.

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CID1990 wrote:
mrklean wrote: Check your history. Before Dutch took office, most police departments did not have a SWAT/SRT unit. However, after he was elected, he sold all of the surplus Vietnam supplies to police departments around the country. Now Mule Azz, Montana has a SWAT Team.
BTW, it was the CIA that was shipping that crap into the inter-cities. But you probably think that's another liberal lie. There is a full U.S. Justice Department file with names a dates of CIA officers and shipments. including Oliver North. Montel Williams lost his show because he had the journalist who first broke the story about the link between the drug lords and the CIA on his show.

All Spandos-esque rants about the CIA aside (which have nothing to do with what I said OR your original ignorant post) I'll respond - since maybe not everyone on the forum yet knows how full of crap you are on this subject-

1. You can tell everyone here you were Federal LE and they won't have a clue what you are talking about - but you are forgetting who you are talking to. You were NEVER a cop. You were a turnkey. And don't go near talking about the task forces because they were and still are the dumping ground of the Federal agencies- and the Marshal's Task Force in Charleston was one of the biggest fly by night useless operations in town. And nobody in those task forces knew the first thing about good judgment or actual police work.

2. Your stat is correct but your reading of it is not- 70% of of police departments are small to medium but they do not make up 70% of police officers (and your claim was 80% of police officers do not have degrees). The majority of police officer work at departments that require degrees. Second, most of those medium sized police departments do have degree requirements so you are just pulling all of this completely out of your ass.

3. NO, it does not work for Chicago and Detroit.

4. Nobody gives a sh!t about the CIA or the crackheads in LA
OK COP. I never said I was a cop. I said I was in Law Enforcement. The difference from what I used to do and what you do is writing some poor bastard a speeding ticket. As a Federal Probation Officer,
I had arrest powers
I could serve a warrant
I could conduct an Investigation. In fact I have more investigative training than you.
I could cross state line and arrest a felon who has absconded.

So tell em this, what was so fucking great about your job. Again, besides giving out traffic citations, name me one thing that you could do as a street cop that I could not????
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mrklean wrote:
CID1990 wrote:

All Spandos-esque rants about the CIA aside (which have nothing to do with what I said OR your original ignorant post) I'll respond - since maybe not everyone on the forum yet knows how full of crap you are on this subject-

1. You can tell everyone here you were Federal LE and they won't have a clue what you are talking about - but you are forgetting who you are talking to. You were NEVER a cop. You were a turnkey. And don't go near talking about the task forces because they were and still are the dumping ground of the Federal agencies- and the Marshal's Task Force in Charleston was one of the biggest fly by night useless operations in town. And nobody in those task forces knew the first thing about good judgment or actual police work.

2. Your stat is correct but your reading of it is not- 70% of of police departments are small to medium but they do not make up 70% of police officers (and your claim was 80% of police officers do not have degrees). The majority of police officer work at departments that require degrees. Second, most of those medium sized police departments do have degree requirements so you are just pulling all of this completely out of your ass.

3. NO, it does not work for Chicago and Detroit.

4. Nobody gives a sh!t about the CIA or the crackheads in LA
OK COP. I never said I was a cop. I said I was in Law Enforcement. The difference from what I used to do and what you do is writing some poor bastard a speeding ticket. As a Federal Probation Officer,
I had arrest powers
I could serve a warrant
I could conduct an Investigation. In fact I have more investigative training than you.
I could cross state line and arrest a felon who has absconded.

So tell em this, what was so **** great about your job. Again, besides giving out traffic citations, name me one thing that you could do as a street cop that I could not????
I see you also have the standard-issue inferiority complex they hand out to probation officers.

Go talk to the state troopers about writing tickets. Cops answer calls for service. In fact, I seem to remember getting called by you and yours every time some PO wanted to serve one of your "warrants" because you didn't know the neighborhoods and didn't want to get jacked up.

I'll tell you what cops do that POs don't - EVERYTHING. (Including having college degrees at a much higher rate)

probation officer :rofl:
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Re: Cop shoots black guy as he cares for autistic kid in the street

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CID1990 wrote:
mrklean wrote:
OK COP. I never said I was a cop. I said I was in Law Enforcement. The difference from what I used to do and what you do is writing some poor bastard a speeding ticket. As a Federal Probation Officer,
I had arrest powers
I could serve a warrant
I could conduct an Investigation. In fact I have more investigative training than you.
I could cross state line and arrest a felon who has absconded.

So tell em this, what was so **** great about your job. Again, besides giving out traffic citations, name me one thing that you could do as a street cop that I could not????
I see you also have the standard-issue inferiority complex they hand out to probation officers.

Go talk to the state troopers about writing tickets. Cops answer calls for service. In fact, I seem to remember getting called by you and yours every time some PO wanted to serve one of your "warrants" because you didn't know the neighborhoods and didn't want to get jacked up.

I'll tell you what cops do that POs don't - EVERYTHING. (Including having college degrees at a much higher rate)

probation officer :rofl:
Planting drugs on young black men does not count as a service..................... :rofl:
#bluelivesmatter
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Re: Cop shoots black guy as he cares for autistic kid in the street

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mrklean wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I see you also have the standard-issue inferiority complex they hand out to probation officers.

Go talk to the state troopers about writing tickets. Cops answer calls for service. In fact, I seem to remember getting called by you and yours every time some PO wanted to serve one of your "warrants" because you didn't know the neighborhoods and didn't want to get jacked up.

I'll tell you what cops do that POs don't - EVERYTHING. (Including having college degrees at a much higher rate)

probation officer :rofl:
Planting drugs on young black men does not count as a service..................... :rofl:
#bluelivesmatter
Your retreat is well noted.
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