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Skjellyfetti wrote:Threats of violence were made. And, they were armed. And, their charges are based on the Street Gang Terrorism and Prevention Act.

The District Attorney is a white Republican.
I didn't see or hear threats of violence. It is OK to be armed. The statute under which they were charged might be unconstitutional. We shall see.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Should they have been found guilty? Yes

Should they have to serve more than 3-5 years for a crime that didnt hurt anyone......only feelings? Of course not, no sane country would give them 15+ for speaking and driving.
Already said this earlier in the thread.

But, this law was passed 20+ years ago to bring heavier charges against loosely defined "groups." This is almost always used against inner city gangs.

Never heard a Conk complain about these laws until they were used against racist rural yokels.

Do you think these laws are ridiculous, or only when they aren't applied to inner city gangs? :coffee:
I think you and I both know that people like this would have never done this on foot and would have crapped their pants and fled if anyone actually confronted them.

Also, I'm going to take a wild guess that "Respect the Flag" has killed vastly fewer (e.g. zero) people than urban gangs do. I mean, it's not like the rural south has all the carnage that South Side Chicago has.

But of course, we need to pretend like Bubba and Jim Bob are just as dangerous and Tyrone and Demetrius cuz racism.
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Re: GA confederate flag supporters indicted on terrorism charges

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Skjellyfetti wrote:Bump.

Guilty.

20 years and 15 years.

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Jose Torres, 26, and Kayla Norton, 25, cried today in a Douglas County court as they were sentenced to 20 years and 15 years in jail, respectively.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/duo-prison-tim ... d=45788918
1st article I clicked on:
....Jose "Joe" Torres, was sentenced to 20 years, with 13 years in prison, after a jury convicted him on three counts of aggravated assault, one count of making terroristic threats and one count of violating of Georgia's Street Gang Terrorism and Prevention Act.

Kayla Norton was sentenced to 15 years, with six years in prison.....
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/us/georgi ... s-threats/

So one is fake news, and one likely isn't. I'm guessing the ABC link Jelly posted is the fake one, since no one gets sentenced to 15 or 20 years in "jail". Anything more than a year is generally prison. But even 13 and 6 years its seems like an excessive sentence for a dumb yahoo hispanic guy and his girlfriend when no one was seriously injured much less murdered.
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Re: GA confederate flag supporters indicted on terrorism charges

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Pwns wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Already said this earlier in the thread.

But, this law was passed 20+ years ago to bring heavier charges against loosely defined "groups." This is almost always used against inner city gangs.

Never heard a Conk complain about these laws until they were used against racist rural yokels.

Do you think these laws are ridiculous, or only when they aren't applied to inner city gangs? :coffee:
I think you and I both know that people like this would have never done this on foot and would have crapped their pants and fled if anyone actually confronted them.

Also, I'm going to take a wild guess that "Respect the Flag" has killed vastly fewer (e.g. zero) people than urban gangs do. I mean, it's not like the rural south has all the carnage that South Side Chicago has.

But of course, we need to pretend like Bubba and Jim Bob are just as dangerous and Tyrone and Demetrius cuz racism.

Those rednecks got what they deserved.
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BDKJMU wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Bump.

Guilty.

20 years and 15 years.

:coffee:


http://abcnews.go.com/US/duo-prison-tim ... d=45788918
1st article I clicked on:
....Jose "Joe" Torres, was sentenced to 20 years, with 13 years in prison, after a jury convicted him on three counts of aggravated assault, one count of making terroristic threats and one count of violating of Georgia's Street Gang Terrorism and Prevention Act.

Kayla Norton was sentenced to 15 years, with six years in prison.....
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/us/georgi ... s-threats/

So one is fake news, and one likely isn't. I'm guessing the ABC link Jelly posted is the fake one, since no one gets sentenced to 15 or 20 years in "jail". Anything more than a year is generally prison. But even 13 and 6 years its seems like an excessive sentence for a dumb yahoo hispanic guy and his girlfriend when no one was seriously injured much less murdered.
It could also just be lazy or dumb journalists.

I used to encounter folks from all three TV news stations in Charleston and a couple from the Post and Courier who I think were borderline illiterate.


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Skjellyfetti wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Should they have been found guilty? Yes

Should they have to serve more than 3-5 years for a crime that didnt hurt anyone......only feelings? Of course not, no sane country would give them 15+ for speaking and driving.
Already said this earlier in the thread.

But, this law was passed 20+ years ago to bring heavier charges against loosely defined "groups." This is almost always used against inner city gangs.

Never heard a Conk complain about these laws until they were used against racist rural yokels.

Do you think these laws are ridiculous, or only when they aren't applied to inner city gangs? :coffee:

Yes I think charges like this are idiotic in all cases. Like a guy selling drugs and he gets 10-15 years. Its stupid.
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Pwns wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Already said this earlier in the thread.

But, this law was passed 20+ years ago to bring heavier charges against loosely defined "groups." This is almost always used against inner city gangs.

Never heard a Conk complain about these laws until they were used against racist rural yokels.

Do you think these laws are ridiculous, or only when they aren't applied to inner city gangs? :coffee:
I think you and I both know that people like this would have never done this on foot and would have crapped their pants and fled if anyone actually confronted them.

Also, I'm going to take a wild guess that "Respect the Flag" has killed vastly fewer (e.g. zero) people than urban gangs do. I mean, it's not like the rural south has all the carnage that South Side Chicago has.

But of course, we need to pretend like Bubba and Jim Bob are just as dangerous and Tyrone and Demetrius cuz racism.
So if the defendants were black you'd be ok with the sentence because urban blacks are more dangerous than white trash. Got it. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
Pwns wrote:
I think you and I both know that people like this would have never done this on foot and would have crapped their pants and fled if anyone actually confronted them.

Also, I'm going to take a wild guess that "Respect the Flag" has killed vastly fewer (e.g. zero) people than urban gangs do. I mean, it's not like the rural south has all the carnage that South Side Chicago has.

But of course, we need to pretend like Bubba and Jim Bob are just as dangerous and Tyrone and Demetrius cuz racism.
So if the defendants were black you'd be ok with the sentence because urban blacks are more dangerous than white trash. Got it. :coffee:

Unless they play football for Georgia Southern :thumb:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Already said this earlier in the thread.

But, this law was passed 20+ years ago to bring heavier charges against loosely defined "groups." This is almost always used against inner city gangs.

Never heard a Conk complain about these laws until they were used against racist rural yokels.

Do you think these laws are ridiculous, or only when they aren't applied to inner city gangs? :coffee:

Yes I think charges like this are idiotic in all cases. Like a guy selling drugs and he gets 10-15 years. Its stupid.
Charges or the sentence?

I don't mind the charges but the sentences do seem over the top.
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kalm wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

Yes I think charges like this are idiotic in all cases. Like a guy selling drugs and he gets 10-15 years. Its stupid.
Charges or the sentence?

I don't mind the charges but the sentences do seem over the top.
This.

Absolutely these folks need to get some alone time in the steel bar hotel but the sentence is out of control

It's funny how the same people who would complain about the mass incarceration state would also support this sentence. I'd bet a paycheck on it


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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Charges or the sentence?

I don't mind the charges but the sentences do seem over the top.
This.

Absolutely these folks need to get some alone time in the steel bar hotel but the sentence is out of control

It's funny how the same people who would complain about the mass incarceration state would also support this sentence. I'd bet a paycheck on it


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kalm wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:

Yes I think charges like this are idiotic in all cases. Like a guy selling drugs and he gets 10-15 years. Its stupid.
Charges or the sentence?

I don't mind the charges but the sentences do seem over the top.
Yes, sentence is what I meant, sorry just another uneducated trailer livin deplorable who cant use his words to get the point across..........
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Charges or the sentence?

I don't mind the charges but the sentences do seem over the top.
Yes, sentence is what I meant, sorry just another uneducated trailer livin deplorable who cant use his words to get the point across..........
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Charges or the sentence?

I don't mind the charges but the sentences do seem over the top.
This.

Absolutely these folks need to get some alone time in the steel bar hotel but the sentence is out of control

It's funny how the same people who would complain about the mass incarceration state would also support this sentence. I'd bet a paycheck on it


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The sentence would be appropriate if they'd fired their weapons.
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I'm still having a hard time giving a fuk...

How many stupid STUPID people have gotten themselves into trouble
and then been wildly OVER sentenced..?
The numbers are staggering for sure

I feel nothing for these people
or really anybody who finds themselves in front of a judge
in circumstances so ridiculous it's hard to fathom

My initial reaction was:
"Huh... how about that, stupid people"


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Chizzang wrote:I'm still having a hard time giving a fuk...

How many stupid STUPID people have gotten themselves into trouble
and then been wildly OVER sentenced..?
The numbers are staggering for sure

I feel nothing for these people
or really anybody who finds themselves in front of a judge
in circumstances so ridiculous it's hard to fathom

My initial reaction was:
"Huh... how about that, stupid people"


:coffee:
I don't care about them either

I'm more concerned about the 20 years I could get some day in the future when being terroristic is defined as offending people


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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I'm still having a hard time giving a fuk...

How many stupid STUPID people have gotten themselves into trouble
and then been wildly OVER sentenced..?
The numbers are staggering for sure

I feel nothing for these people
or really anybody who finds themselves in front of a judge
in circumstances so ridiculous it's hard to fathom

My initial reaction was:
"Huh... how about that, stupid people"


:coffee:
I don't care about them either

I'm more concerned about the 20 years I could get some day in the future when being terroristic is defined as offending people
You've been offending me for years...
and my crime is Smug Prickish
and my sentence is 20 years of CS.com and I'm well over half way through my time

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Unstoppable...staring Bruce "Cluck U" Willis.
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