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"Harvard Study Reveals Huge Extent of Anti-Trump Media Bias

A major new study out of Harvard University has revealed the true extent of the mainstream media’s bias against Donald Trump.

Academics at the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy analyzed coverage from Trump’s first 100 days in office across 10 major TV and print outlets.

They found that the tone of some outlets was negative in as many as 98% of reports, significantly more hostile than the first 100 days of the three previous administrations:
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The academics based their study on seven US outlets and three European ones.

In America they analyzed CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox News, the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal.

They also took into account the BBC, the UK’s Financial Times and the German public broadcaster ARD.

Every outlet was negative more often than positive.

Only Fox News, which features some of Trump’s most enthusiastic supporters and is often given special access to the President, even came close to positivity."
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If the shoe fits...

A lot of Trump's campaign success was on negative media and knowing how to stay in the news. He'd say or do something ridiculous and then have wall to wall press coverage without spending a dime. It's the same as before... it's just not as useful once you're president. :coffee:


Trump and Congress can start actually doing something and get some more positive press. So far... they've put Gorsuch on the bench and not much beside.
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I like how the study didn't include the non-reputable outlets like RT and MSNBC


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Skjellyfetti wrote:If the shoe fits...

A lot of Trump's campaign success was on negative media and knowing how to stay in the news. He'd say or do something ridiculous and then have wall to wall press coverage without spending a dime. It's the same as before... it's just not as useful once you're president. :coffee:


Trump and Congress can start actually doing something and get some more positive press. So far... they've put Gorsuch on the bench and not much beside.
Of course to some extent that's true - if there's only negative news to cover then of course the news will be negative. But it's clearly been more overt than that. I used to use CNN as my general, straight ahead news outlet (I know use Reuters thanks to many on here who pointed me that way) and I'm not sure there's an example of a new agency going as full tilt against Trump as CNN is. You could start to see CNN swing during the campaign, especially on election night when Anna Navarro and Van Jones were both first actively relishing the chance to mock Trump in defeat, and then both were if not actually crying on air then very close to doing so. If you read CNN today it's a tabloid and it makes MSNBC look conservative by comparison. There's been do nothing Congresses before and you wouldn't see the seismic shift in one news outlet like you have with CNN this time around.

Where Trump is failing is similar to where Obama failed early on - neither knew how to deal with the majorities of their own parties in Congress. Obama ran up against the Reid/Pelosi roadblock and that caused him issues, but he worked it out later on once those majorities were routed in 2010. I don't get the sense that Trump will ever be able to figure it out. The GOP never really saw him as one of them (see any of JSO's posts for the past year for a deeper review of this) and he doesn't seem adroit enough to operate as an independent.
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BDKJMU wrote:"Harvard Study Reveals Huge Extent of Anti-Trump Media Bias

A major new study out of Harvard University has revealed the true extent of the mainstream media’s bias against Donald Trump.

Academics at the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy analyzed coverage from Trump’s first 100 days in office across 10 major TV and print outlets.

They found that the tone of some outlets was negative in as many as 98% of reports, significantly more hostile than the first 100 days of the three previous administrations:
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The academics based their study on seven US outlets and three European ones.

In America they analyzed CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox News, the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal.

They also took into account the BBC, the UK’s Financial Times and the German public broadcaster ARD.

Every outlet was negative more often than positive.

Only Fox News, which features some of Trump’s most enthusiastic supporters and is often given special access to the President, even came close to positivity."
https://heatst.com/culture-wars/harvard ... edia-bias/
Obviously Harvard is a reich-wing neocon alt-right Republikkkan organization.

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GannonFan wrote:Anna Navarro and Van Jones were both first actively relishing the chance to mock Trump in defeat
Yeah, but they're "contributors" / talking heads.

They also have Jeffrey Lord, Jason Miller, etc.

At least CNN doesn't have hosts as overtly political as Maddow, Hannity, Carlson, Hayes, etc.

I'm not saying CNN is wholly without bias. They definitely lean left and it pissed me off to no end how they ignored Bernie during the primaries. And, I'm sure Anderson Cooper is a Democrat - but, I just don't see him the same as a Rachel Maddow or Christopher Hayes or something. It's subjective, though. I guess y'all would disagree.

But, I try to keep my cable news views to an absolute minimum. It's trash across the board... and is a huge factor in our polarized shitshow we're currently living in (RIP Roger Ailes).
GannonFan wrote: Where Trump is failing is similar to where Obama failed early on - neither knew how to deal with the majorities of their own parties in Congress. Obama ran up against the Reid/Pelosi roadblock and that caused him issues, but he worked it out later on once those majorities were routed in 2010. I don't get the sense that Trump will ever be able to figure it out. The GOP never really saw him as one of them (see any of JSO's posts for the past year for a deeper review of this) and he doesn't seem adroit enough to operate as an independent.
I agree with that completely. We've been on an "anti-establishment" bent for the past decade (rightly so) and it shows no sign of abating. The problem with anti-establishment is that they aren't as politically savvy about passing legislation and the actual governance. Obama was too idealistic and optimistic. Trump thought his election meant that he'd have free reign to do whatever he wanted and everyone would get in line.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Anna Navarro and Van Jones were both first actively relishing the chance to mock Trump in defeat
Yeah, but they're "contributors" / talking heads.

They also have Jeffrey Lord, Jason Miller, etc.

At least CNN doesn't have hosts as overtly political as Maddow, Hannity, Carlson, Hayes, etc.

I'm not saying CNN is wholly without bias. They definitely lean left and it pissed me off to no end how they ignored Bernie during the primaries. And, I'm sure Anderson Cooper is a Democrat - but, I just don't see him the same as a Rachel Maddow or Christopher Hayes or something.

But, I try to keep my cable news views to an absolute minimum. It's absolute trash across the board... and is a huge factor in our polarized shitshow we're currently living in (RIP Roger Ailes).
Eh, the GOP talking heads almost look like they're on a Bill Maher show and are there to be ridiculed. Don't get me wrong, sometimes the ridicule is deserving, but they look like cannon fodder. And while Anderson Cooper is surely on the left of the political spectrum, I actually think he does a decent job, most of the time, of staying personally out of the story.

I'll admit, though, I really don't watch much cable news at all, and I just gravitate to CNN when a big event comes out and I want to hear about it more than a network station (like ABC) would do. I'm sure they're all mostly crap. I was mainly talking about the online presence like a website.
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CID1990 wrote:I like how the study didn't include the non-reputable outlets like RT and MSNBC


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I can see not including MSNBC since they included NBC. Maybe it should have been NBC/MSNBC. If a 5th network should have been included it should have been ABC...

They should have done RT as a 4th European outlet.
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The fact that coverage is negative doesn't necessarily infer bias.

If you say somebody lies a lot that's a negative tone. But it could also be true. If the truth is that someone lies a lot saying they lie a lot, while negative, isn't bias. That sort of thing.
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JohnStOnge wrote:The fact that coverage is negative doesn't necessarily infer bias.

If you say somebody lies a lot that's a negative tone. But it could also be true. If the truth is that someone lies a lot saying they lie a lot, while negative, isn't bias. That sort of thing.
This is true. "Balance" has very little to do with good journalism.
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Just think about one situation as an example. This thing with the Comey firing. He fires Comey and his staff spends a week saying it was because of Rosenstein's memo having to do with Comey's handling of the Clinton situation. Then Trump goes on national TV and contradicts what they've been saying all week. Says he was going to fire Comey regardless and references the Russia thing.

Are the media supposed to put a positive spin on that?

And just the timing of firing Comey. Just firing the FBI director when the FBI is investigating his campaign. You'd have to be an idiot to expect that to result in a positive spin.

You can even go back to stuff that has no real impact. Like Trump and his people having the need to claim that they had the largest inauguration crowd ever when that obviously wasn't anywhere close to true. Why do that sort of thing? You expect the media NOT to call you out on that?

Or getting up on national TV and saying you had the biggest Electoral College win since Reagan when, actually, your Electoral College win was 6th among the 8 elections since Reagan.

Then going back to the campaign and stuff like saying the NFL wrote you a letter expressing concern about the debate schedule and having the NFL say, "no we didn't."

It's not like the way Trump is covered has nothing to do with the way Trump behaves. The stuff he says and does.

That's not to say organizations like CNN don't have a liberal bias. I think just about anybody would agree that they do. But Trump's own behavior is a big factor in how negative the coverage has been. I mean the guy is just a totally incompetent serial liar. What are the media supposed to do? Pretend they're not seeing what they're seeing?

Also, it's not the media's fault that all the leaking is going on. The leaking is going on, I think, because people on the inside are horrified by what they're seeing in Trump.
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Now the msm is complaining about Trump's handshake, saying its "too strong". :roll:
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