Meanwhile, in Iceland...

[Chizzang]

So what's going on in Iceland?

A lot. It's a universally great country. That's why Cleetzang loves it so much.

Not relevant

[houndawg]

Regarding music, I think many will agree that there are many, multiple album, bands that produced their best work during the first half of their recording careers. Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, REM, U2, etc.

Why is that? Some might say that these bands were simpler then. Less sophisticated. Not as advanced. Inexperienced.

But as they became more knowledgeable about song writing, other instruments, and complicated arrangements, their music became less "liked".

Would you art lovers say that good art is primarily a product of it's degree of difficulty? Or simplicity?

Not always true. The Beatles hit their stride later on. Neil Young's Harvest Moon is another example.

There are many artists who will tell you their best work was some of their least popular work they produced later in their careers.

Dylan was pushing 70 when Modern Times came out.

[Skjellyfetti]

Not always true. The Beatles hit their stride later on. Neil Young's Harvest Moon is another example.

There are many artists who will tell you their best work was some of their least popular work they produced later in their careers.

Dylan was pushing 70 when Modern Times came out.

Johnny Cash's American Recordings as well.

[houndawg]

Ya... Okee Dokee John

Honestly I don't even know why you disagree with me about something like music vs. something that's very objectively measurable. Like if I ask "who ran the fastest 100 meters in the world in 2016?" There's an objective, unambiguous answer to that. It's measurable. No debate.

But if I ask "who did the best job of singing the national anthem last year" there's probably going to be disagreement. There's going to be opinion involved. It's just not the same kind of thing.

Chops are objectively measurable so you can say which voice that sang the national anthem was the best voice but that isn't necessarily the same thing as which version reached you most. Many Dylan songs are sung "better" by other singers that have better voices and occasionally someone makes one of his songs their own like Hendrix did with All Along the Watchtower but nobody has ever topped Lay Lady Lay regardless of their vocal chops. Executing a song better than the writer doesn't necessarily make you the real deal.