Charlottesville riots

[Jjoey52]

It's become abundantly clear the left does not want first amendment rights for all.

And the right are ALL Nazis?

Define Nazi.


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[kalm]

I'm not confused at all...
There is a pendulum that is swinging back and forth around this issue
Both sides are simultaneously correct and incorrect - depending on how far you take each point
frankly it's fascinating

i think klam hasn't been paying attention to what's been happening

freedom of speech is so 1965

Now its freedom of speech, except for hate speech, and its bricks and sticks for hate speech (whatever that is)


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Who first posted about micro-aggressions and trigger warnings on this board?

(Hint: it was a long piece from the Atlantic a couple years ago).

I get no respect I tell ya!

[SDHornet]

Mueller's investigation is out of the news because it's becoming more apparent that is it one gigantic nothingburger. Last I heard was the donks made up the whole "Russia hacked us" as another excuse for hilldogs embarrassing loss. So now they are pimping the "racist" card as hard as possible because there is really no other play for them to go to.

Specifically, the DNC "hack" is being looked at as an inside leak

Didn't some donks call for military action because of this alleged "hack" and Russian interference? Seems like a lot to go through to cover up such an egregious lie...very W like. Hmmm.

[BDKJMU]

Lol at the libtard CNN. Instead of "Protests In Streets After Trump's Speech", its:

I used to at things like that. Now I just because CNN's leftist, anti Trump bias has become so over the top its just comical..

[SDHornet]

Lol at the libtard CNN. Instead of "Protests In Streets After Trump's Speech", its:

I used to at things like that. Now I just because CNN's leftist, anti Trump bias has become so over the top its just comical..

The MSM lost all credibility after the last presidential election...now they are just doubling down with stupidity.

[BDKJMU]

The snowflakes have gone full retard at UNC.
http://www.wral.com/hundreds-protest-at ... /16898155/

[CID1990]

Lol at the libtard CNN. Instead of "Protests In Streets After Trump's Speech", its:

I used to at things like that. Now I just because CNN's leftist, anti Trump bias has become so over the top its just comical..

The MSM lost all credibility after the last presidential election...now they are just doubling down with stupidity.

um

It goes back WAY farther than that


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[HI54UNI]

Specifically, the DNC "hack" is being looked at as an inside leak

Didn't some donks call for military action because of this alleged "hack" and Russian interference? Seems like a lot to go through to cover up such an egregious lie...very W like. Hmmm.

I think John McCain and his pet Lindsey were ready to start bombing too.

[Skjellyfetti]

Specifically, the DNC "hack" is being looked at as an inside leak

Didn't some donks call for military action because of this alleged "hack" and Russian interference? Seems like a lot to go through to cover up such an egregious lie...very W like. Hmmm.

Where are y'all getting the DNC "leak" angle from? Any legitimate source? Seen it thrown around some pretty out-there right wing sites. Especially that Seth Rich was the leaker. Assange has stoked that fire.

All the intelligence agencies are in on this conspiracy it sounds like.

SEN. MARK WARNER, D-VA.: Intelligence community assessment accurately characterized the extent of Russian activities in the 2016 election and its conclusion that Russian intelligence agencies were responsible for the hacking and leaking of information and using misinformation to influence our elections? Simple yes or no would suffice.

ROBERT CARDILLO, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL GEOSPATIAL-INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: I do. Yes, sir.

STEWART: Yes, Senator.

ROGERS: Yes I do.

DAN COATS, DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE : Yes I do.

MIKE POMPEO, DIRECTOR, CIA: Yes.

MCCABE: Yes.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... committee/

[CID1990]

Didn't some donks call for military action because of this alleged "hack" and Russian interference? Seems like a lot to go through to cover up such an egregious lie...very W like. Hmmm.

Where are y'all getting the DNC "leak" angle from? Any legitimate source? Seen it thrown around some pretty out-there right wing sites. Especially that Seth Rich was the leaker. Assange has stoked that fire.

All the intelligence agencies are in on this conspiracy it sounds like.

SEN. MARK WARNER, D-VA.: Intelligence community assessment accurately characterized the extent of Russian activities in the 2016 election and its conclusion that Russian intelligence agencies were responsible for the hacking and leaking of information and using misinformation to influence our elections? Simple yes or no would suffice.

ROBERT CARDILLO, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL GEOSPATIAL-INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: I do. Yes, sir.

STEWART: Yes, Senator.

ROGERS: Yes I do.

DAN COATS, DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE : Yes I do.

MIKE POMPEO, DIRECTOR, CIA: Yes.

MCCABE: Yes.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... committee/

Here it is at that bastion of right wing journalism - The Nation....

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/

[89Hen]

The MSM lost all credibility after the last presidential election...now they are just doubling down with stupidity.

um

It goes back WAY farther than that

It's become a lot more obvious since then. It used to be the libs could pretend it wasn't so. Even they can't any more.

[Skjellyfetti]

Where are y'all getting the DNC "leak" angle from? Any legitimate source? Seen it thrown around some pretty out-there right wing sites. Especially that Seth Rich was the leaker. Assange has stoked that fire.

All the intelligence agencies are in on this conspiracy it sounds like.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... committee/

Here it is at that bastion of right wing journalism - The Nation....

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/

Ah. Patrick Lawrence. Another Seth Rich conspiracy theorist.

Do you think Seth Rich was the leaker?

[CID1990]

Here it is at that bastion of right wing journalism - The Nation....

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/

Ah. Patrick Lawrence. Another Seth Rich conspiracy theorist.

Do you think Seth Rich was the leaker?

I have no idea- I haven't given much thought to it because I haven't seen any evidence he leaked anything

I read an article making a case for a leak - one that doesn't mention Seth Rich - and it is apparently THE source for the actual leak theory

And it was The Nation - not "some pretty out there right wing sites"

[Skjellyfetti]

Christopher Cantwell, who was featured in a Vice documentary about a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, was denied bail on Thursday after turning himself in earlier, a senior law enforcement official said.

Police at the University of Virginia, where a torch-lit march was held on August 11, had issued warrants for his arrest on two counts of illegal use of tear gas and other gases, and one count of malicious bodily injury with a caustic substance. All the charges are felonies.

The New Hampshire resident surrendered to police in Lynchburg, Virginia, on Wednesday.

Cantwell was denied bond in Albemarle County General District Court, according to the senior law enforcement official in Charlottesville. He appeared in court via video conference from the Albemarle County Regional Jail.
A preliminary hearing was set for October 12.

Cantwell and dozens of others marched through the university grounds on August 11, carrying torches and chanting "Jews will not replace us" and "White lives matter." They were protesting a Charlottesville City Council plan to remove a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee from a nearby park.

Protesters also chanted "blood and soil" -- an English translation of the Nazi slogan "Blut und Boden," which glorified rural living and held that only blood descent can entitle individuals to belonging in the nation.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/us/urgent ... peditorial

[Chizzang]

um

It goes back WAY farther than that

It's become a lot more obvious since then. It used to be the libs could pretend it wasn't so. Even they can't any more.

Man you ain't just kiddin'



Sometimes I'm actually interested in the truth
and honestly I have almost no idea where it lives anymore

[Jjoey52]

It's become a lot more obvious since then. It used to be the libs could pretend it wasn't so. Even they can't any more.

Man you ain't just kiddin'



Sometimes I'm actually interested in the truth
and honestly I have almost no idea where it lives anymore

It doesn't, one has to dig to get the best approximation.


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[SDHornet]

Ah. Patrick Lawrence. Another Seth Rich conspiracy theorist.

Do you think Seth Rich was the leaker?

I have no idea- I haven't given much thought to it because I haven't seen any evidence he leaked anything

I read an article making a case for a leak - one that doesn't mention Seth Rich - and it is apparently THE source for the actual leak theory

And it was The Nation - not "some pretty out there right wing sites"

Yup. Also you don't turn down help from the FBI if you were really hacked. Clearly the donks are hiding something.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/2 ... cks-239800

Oh and has Julian Assange been wrong yet?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... 561c25d19d

Plenty of smoke, more so than that alleged "Russian collusion" by Trumper.

[hitchinaride]

Behold the genetically superior master race....

Simply misunderstood. They just need a hug. Hey, that's what we were told about gangbangers. Just sayin.

[JohnStOnge]

Yup. Also you don't turn down help from the FBI if you were really hacked. Clearly the donks are hiding something.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/2 ... cks-239800

The article you linked there pretty much says they were hacked. They were really hacked. There's no indication that anybody even disagrees with that. The DNC was hacked.

[Skjellyfetti]

BUT, SETH RICH

[Skjellyfetti]

Two more arrests from Charlottesville.

One arrest for redneck firing a gun at counter protestors. It was caught on tape.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/c ... ubz=1&_r=0

Another for beating a black man with a flag pole
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.3445333

[BDKJMU]

Two more arrests from Charlottesville.

One arrest for redneck firing a gun at counter protestors. It was caught on tape.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/c ... ubz=1&_r=0

Looks like the redneck fired at the feet of a BLM member trying to spray the white nationalists with a homemade flame thrower..

[Bisonfanatical]

Two more arrests from Charlottesville.

One arrest for redneck firing a gun at counter protestors. It was caught on tape.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/c ... ubz=1&_r=0

Another for beating a black man with a flag pole
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.3445333

A quote from the NY times article:

"The melees two weeks ago culminated in a Nazi sympathizer plowing his car into a crowd of counter-protesters — killing Heather Heyer, 32, and wounding 19 others."

My question is, did he confess he rammed those people because he was a nazi sympathizer? .. or did he say it was because he was attacked by the club welding terrorists.

I have never heard his confession, but I might have missed it.

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[JohnStOnge]

Here it is at that bastion of right wing journalism - The Nation....

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/

To me what the author of that piece is saying is that they don't know what happened.

[CID1990]

Here it is at that bastion of right wing journalism - The Nation....

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new ... -dnc-hack/

To me what the author of that piece is saying is that they don't know what happened.

Whoa

What caused this sudden migration from "lots of people say its a hack" to "they dont know what happened", JSO?

My impression so far is that some people have said it was a hack - then several other people took it at face value and worked under that assumption

and its easy to work under that assumption because the Russians and Chinese ARE constantly trying to crack into our financial, technical, and political systems

But so far, we've seen a lot of people telling us this was a hack (with little to no evidence - except for the later incident where Podesta fell for a social engineering spoof (that isnt a hack))

and then we have a few people disputing that account- with little evidence also, but at least a stab at it

Personally I dont know, and neither does anyone else here- but I'm not yet willing to take James Clapper and Co's word for it

since thats all we have right now


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