A Party Divided

[kalm]

Why we need to consider a switch to a Parliamentarian government.

It's not a panacea, just a different way of rearranging the chairs on the deck of a sinking ship (no, I'm not a Russian bot btw). There's plenty of room in a duopoly of political parties to achieve the same thing you get with a multi-party parliament. And besides, the things that really hurt us now are the lack of ideas. Adding more parties with no ideas doesn't help that.

So duopolies are fine and have nothing to do with the lack of ideas?

[AZGrizFan]

So exactly what happened to the Conks is now happening to the Donks. And yet JSO ASSURES us that the end of the Conk party is near...When FEINSTEIN isn't left enough for you, you've got real issues. FFS

Feinstein isn’t very left at all.

OK.

[houndawg]

Why we need to consider a switch to a Parliamentarian government.

It's not a panacea, just a different way of rearranging the chairs on the deck of a sinking ship (no, I'm not a Russian bot btw). There's plenty of room in a duopoly of political parties to achieve the same thing you get with a multi-party parliament. And besides, the things that really hurt us now are the lack of ideas. Adding more parties with no ideas doesn't help that.

If that were true it would have happened.

[kalm]

Feinstein isn’t very left at all.

OK.

Voted for Iraq War
Domestic spying
Member of the .000001%
Dismissed single payer
Raise the SS elgibility age
Patriot Act
Forcing local authorities to cooperate with ICE

Um....yeah....

[AZGrizFan]

OK.

Voted for Iraq War
Domestic spying
Member of the .000001%
Dismissed single payer
Raise the SS elgibility age
Patriot Act
Forcing local authorities to cooperate with ICE

Um....yeah....

EVERYBODY voted for the Iraq war. EVERYBODY voted for the patriot act. 99% of congress is a member of the .000001%. So, uncheck, uncheck,uncheck.

Their goal once IN power is to retain power, thus the domestic spying vote....

It’s easy to dismiss single payer when it has no chance of passing. Rest assured if it were going to pass, she’d jump on board faster than you trying to salvage one nut.

What else you got?

[BDKJMU]

OK.

Voted for Iraq War
Domestic spying
Member of the .000001%
Dismissed single payer
Raise the SS elgibility age
Patriot Act
Forcing local authorities to cooperate with ICE
Um....yeah....

-Co authored so calld 94’ assault weapons ban and has voted with the liberals on almost all of the other gun control bills.
-Voted for Obamacare and has voted with the liberals on almost all the other health care issues.
-Has been pro gay marriage since the 90s.
-Has voted with the liberals on almost all the environmental & energy issues.
-Has been reliably pro abortion
-Voted for amnesty for illegal immigrants with the so called comprehensive reform & voted to give illegals a pathway to citizenship.
-Voted to allow illegals to get social security.
-Voted against ID in fed elections.
-Has mostly voted with the liberals on taxes & spending.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Dianne_Feinstein.htm

Feinstein not a liberal. Yeah..mm ok..

[houndawg]

Looks like the Donks are going to elect their Donald Trumps to state legislatures and to congress.

You mean Al Sharpton? That's pretty close to the analog. When the Democrats nominate Al Sharpton as their Presidential candidate you can say they went off the rails as far as the Republicans did in nominating Trump. And then they'd have to rally behind him in the general election to REALLY go as off the wall as the Republicans did.

Trump = A white Al Sharpton....













JSO bringing the funny!

[kalm]

Voted for Iraq War
Domestic spying
Member of the .000001%
Dismissed single payer
Raise the SS elgibility age
Patriot Act
Forcing local authorities to cooperate with ICE
Um....yeah....

-Co authored so calld 94’ assault weapons ban and has voted with the liberals on almost all of the other gun control bills.
-Voted for Obamacare and has voted with the liberals on almost all the other health care issues.
-Has been pro gay marriage since the 90s.
-Has voted with the liberals on almost all the environmental & energy issues.
-Has been reliably pro abortion
-Voted for amnesty for illegal immigrants with the so called comprehensive reform & voted to give illegals a pathway to citizenship.
-Voted to allow illegals to get social security.
-Voted against ID in fed elections.
-Has mostly voted with the liberals on taxes & spending.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Dianne_Feinstein.htm

Feinstein not a liberal. Yeah..mm ok..

Weak.

EG the assault weapons ban was part of a larger crime bill that had incentives for conks too.

I didn’t say she was the second coming of Edmund Burke for fucks sake. But I thank you both for trying.

[CID1990]

So exactly what happened to the Conks is now happening to the Donks. And yet JSO ASSURES us that the end of the Conk party is near...When FEINSTEIN isn't left enough for you, you've got real issues. FFS

Feinstein isn’t very left at all.

She was hard left 30 years ago.

It isn't her that changed - she's still the calcified old bat she always was

Ironic given all the relatively recent whining from the left about how the GOP has gone full speed ahead to the right

[AZGrizFan]

Feinstein isn’t very left at all.

She was hard left 30 years ago.

It isn't her that changed - she's still the calcified old bat she always was

Ironic given all the relatively recent whining from the left about how the GOP has gone full speed ahead to the right

the fringes are further to the left and right than ever before. The forgotten (and rational) 70% is in the middle...

[kalm]

She was hard left 30 years ago.

It isn't her that changed - she's still the calcified old bat she always was

Ironic given all the relatively recent whining from the left about how the GOP has gone full speed ahead to the right

the fringes are further to the left and right than ever before. The forgotten (and rational) 70% is in the middle...

Which is where Feinstein resides.

[Winterborn]

the fringes are further to the left and right than ever before. The forgotten (and rational) 70% is in the middle...

Which is where Feinstein resides.

All depends on what your definition of the "middle" is.

[kalm]

Which is where Feinstein resides.

All depends on what your definition of the "middle" is.

The 70 non fringe % that Z was referring to. And I’m only talking in reference to other politicians.

[AZGrizFan]

the fringes are further to the left and right than ever before. The forgotten (and rational) 70% is in the middle...

Which is where Feinstein resides.

I can assure you she's not in my 70%.

[kalm]

Which is where Feinstein resides.

I can assure you she's not in my 70%.

Of course she’s not....

[Winterborn]

I can assure you she's not in my 70%.

Of course she’s not....

Which is what I was trying to get at. Is the definition of middle an overall definition of the middle or what I (or somebody else) thinks the middle is? Because those can be vastly different things depending on the person.

[CID1990]

the fringes are further to the left and right than ever before. The forgotten (and rational) 70% is in the middle...

Which is where Feinstein resides.

Jeesus everybody on this board is turning into Jelly

first Clizzery and now you

Let me spell it out for you

20 years ago Diane Feinstein was one of the most liberal senators in the entire body

Today she is practically dead center on all but the most anodyne of issues (abortion)

Diane Feinstein has not changed one whit since she has been in the Senate


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[kalm]

Which is where Feinstein resides.

Jeesus everybody on this board is turning into Jelly

first Clizzery and now you

Let me spell it out for you

20 years ago Diane Feinstein was one of the most liberal senators in the entire body

Today she is practically dead center on all but the most anodyne of issues (abortion)

Diane Feinstein has not changed one whit since she has been in the Senate


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Reading is fundamental, Greg.

I didn’t say what she was like 20 years ago. Hillary used to be a leftist idealogue too.

Feinstein’s political instincts were apparent when she loudly supported the death penalty at the 1990 state party convention, drawing a chorus of boos—which she subsequently used in campaign ads to prove her distance from the liberal base. Perhaps no Democrat in the past two decades has been as committed to expanding the national security state than Feinstein (again, like Lieberman). On domestic policy, she supported the Bush tax cuts, permanent normal trade relations with China, and the bill that repealed Glass-Steagall’s financial reforms. While strong on gun safety, women’s rights and the environment, Feinstein has openly courted the center and rejected the left since coming to Washington. Just this year, she told the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco that Donald Trump could mature into a “good president.”

https://newrepublic.com/article/145327/ ... in-problem

Yep...she’s pretty much McGovern with a rack.

[houndawg]

Which is where Feinstein resides.

I can assure you she's not in my 70%.

Most of your 70% didn't make past Nuremberg..

[houndawg]

Jeesus everybody on this board is turning into Jelly

first Clizzery and now you

Let me spell it out for you

20 years ago Diane Feinstein was one of the most liberal senators in the entire body

Today she is practically dead center on all but the most anodyne of issues (abortion)

Diane Feinstein has not changed one whit since she has been in the Senate


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Reading is fundamental, Greg.

I didn’t say what she was like 20 years ago. Hillary used to be a leftist idealogue too.

Feinstein’s political instincts were apparent when she loudly supported the death penalty at the 1990 state party convention, drawing a chorus of boos—which she subsequently used in campaign ads to prove her distance from the liberal base. Perhaps no Democrat in the past two decades has been as committed to expanding the national security state than Feinstein (again, like Lieberman). On domestic policy, she supported the Bush tax cuts, permanent normal trade relations with China, and the bill that repealed Glass-Steagall’s financial reforms. While strong on gun safety, women’s rights and the environment, Feinstein has openly courted the center and rejected the left since coming to Washington. Just this year, she told the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco that Donald Trump could mature into a “good president.”

https://newrepublic.com/article/145327/ ... in-problem

Yep...she’s pretty much McGovern with a rack.

Compared with todays wackjob right she was a leftist ideologue back when she was a Goldwater Girl.

And don't get me started on Vladimir Ilyich Eisenhower...

[Ivytalk]

Jeesus everybody on this board is turning into Jelly

first Clizzery and now you

Let me spell it out for you

20 years ago Diane Feinstein was one of the most liberal senators in the entire body

Today she is practically dead center on all but the most anodyne of issues (abortion)

Diane Feinstein has not changed one whit since she has been in the Senate


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Reading is fundamental, Greg.

I didn’t say what she was like 20 years ago. Hillary used to be a leftist idealogue too.

Feinstein’s political instincts were apparent when she loudly supported the death penalty at the 1990 state party convention, drawing a chorus of boos—which she subsequently used in campaign ads to prove her distance from the liberal base. Perhaps no Democrat in the past two decades has been as committed to expanding the national security state than Feinstein (again, like Lieberman). On domestic policy, she supported the Bush tax cuts, permanent normal trade relations with China, and the bill that repealed Glass-Steagall’s financial reforms. While strong on gun safety, women’s rights and the environment, Feinstein has openly courted the center and rejected the left since coming to Washington. Just this year, she told the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco that Donald Trump could mature into a “good president.”

https://newrepublic.com/article/145327/ ... in-problem

Yep...she’s pretty much McGovern with a rack.

Feinstein owes her political career to the late Harvey Milk.

[kalm]

Reading is fundamental, Greg.

I didn’t say what she was like 20 years ago. Hillary used to be a leftist idealogue too.




https://newrepublic.com/article/145327/ ... in-problem

Yep...she’s pretty much McGovern with a rack.

Feinstein owes her political career to the late Harvey Milk.

And even back then, she was still relatively moderate. Conks and their labeling...