How will Donald Trump change politics and the presidency?

[Chizzang]

Rigging elections and killing ambassadors...
Please go on - using actual time line information and facts (not Alex Jones please)

Because me thinks you're trying a bit too hard

It’s been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt they sat there and let the ambassador and everyone else there get killed in Libya without sending available reinforcements, then knowingly lied about the circumstances for weeks in the press to ensure it didn’t fuck up Obama’s 2nd term election (timing is everything, right?)

It’s also a known, public fact that the DNC rigged their party’s election to ensure the nomination of Hildabeast over Sanders. You should really get out more...this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

But hey, to quote the bitch herself, “what difference, at this point, does it make?”

Rigging the selection process isn't exactly that same as rigging an election
So I had no idea what you were talking about

and You can do all the research you want
and never come up with as simple an answer as you just printed on Benghazi

that is really cherry picking some data

[css75]

All I know is that I am very happy the Hildebeast lost, the country could not have survived Obama and her back to back.


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[SDHornet]

But let's not pretend there's a fair playing field - I certainly have more advantages than others, but less than others as well. There's a reason the distribution of wealth in this nation is the worst since the Gilded age (even more so among races).

Fair playing field?

Of course not, but if what you say is true then people wouldn't be able to move up the social economic ladder into something better. For example, a kid born from a (legal) Mexican immigrant with some high school education whose father had some junior college classes and supported his family of 6 on a mechanics wage (i.e. working class) after coming home form 'Nam and was raised in a predominantly black neighborhood (at the time) that was riddled with gangs, drugs, and crime with completely shit public schools would have never been able to move out of the hood and earn an engineering degree. Crazy shit like that should never happen if your view of America was actually true.

Just sayin'.

[kalm]

But let's not pretend there's a fair playing field - I certainly have more advantages than others, but less than others as well. There's a reason the distribution of wealth in this nation is the worst since the Gilded age (even more so among races).

Fair playing field?

Of course not, but if what you say is true then people wouldn't be able to move up the social economic ladder into something better. For example, a kid born from a (legal) Mexican immigrant with some high school education whose father had some junior college classes and supported his family of 6 on a mechanics wage (i.e. working class) after coming home form 'Nam and was raised in a predominantly black neighborhood (at the time) that was riddled with gangs, drugs, and crime with completely shit public schools would have never been able to move out of the hood and earn an engineering degree. Crazy shit like that should never happen if your view of America was actually true.

Just sayin'.

So you think the playing field is level?

[SDHornet]

Fair playing field?

Of course not, but if what you say is true then people wouldn't be able to move up the social economic ladder into something better. For example, a kid born from a (legal) Mexican immigrant with some high school education whose father had some junior college classes and supported his family of 6 on a mechanics wage (i.e. working class) after coming home form 'Nam and was raised in a predominantly black neighborhood (at the time) that was riddled with gangs, drugs, and crime with completely shit public schools would have never been able to move out of the hood and earn an engineering degree. Crazy shit like that should never happen if your view of America was actually true.

Just sayin'.

So you think the playing field is level?

Perhaps you should re-read my response.

[css75]

Fair playing field?

Of course not, but if what you say is true then people wouldn't be able to move up the social economic ladder into something better. For example, a kid born from a (legal) Mexican immigrant with some high school education whose father had some junior college classes and supported his family of 6 on a mechanics wage (i.e. working class) after coming home form 'Nam and was raised in a predominantly black neighborhood (at the time) that was riddled with gangs, drugs, and crime with completely **** public schools would have never been able to move out of the hood and earn an engineering degree. Crazy **** like that should never happen if your view of America was actually true.

Just sayin'.

So you think the playing field is level?

No, the playing field is not level and never will be. However, every person has the opportunity to change their position on the field by hard work, and making good choices.


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[AZGrizFan]

It’s been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt they sat there and let the ambassador and everyone else there get killed in Libya without sending available reinforcements, then knowingly lied about the circumstances for weeks in the press to ensure it didn’t fuck up Obama’s 2nd term election (timing is everything, right?)

It’s also a known, public fact that the DNC rigged their party’s election to ensure the nomination of Hildabeast over Sanders. You should really get out more...this is like shooting fish in a barrel.

But hey, to quote the bitch herself, “what difference, at this point, does it make?”

Rigging the selection process isn't exactly that same as rigging an election
So I had no idea what you were talking about

and You can do all the research you want
and never come up with as simple an answer as you just printed on Benghazi

that is really cherry picking some data

In her case rigging the “selection” was akin to rigging the election, as she (and her handlers/party) were CERTAIN she was going to win...

And that info regarding Benghazi is direct information from people who were there. It really IS that simple.

[kalm]

So you think the playing field is level?

No, the playing field is not level and never will be. However, every person has the opportunity to change their position on the field by hard work, and making good choices.


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Correct. It’s just a matter of how tilted it is. Despite the wealth gap you could argue it’s easier to rise up now than during the gilded age but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen statistics that suggest we lag behind other countries and/or our own history in that regard.

[CAA Flagship]

No, the playing field is not level and never will be. However, every person has the opportunity to change their position on the field by hard work, and making good choices.


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Correct. It’s just a matter of how tilted it is. Despite the wealth gap you could argue it’s easier to rise up now than during the gilded age but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen statistics that suggest we lag behind other countries and/or our own history in that regard.

But don't we have the wealthiest poor and middle income groups in the world?

[kalm]

Correct. It’s just a matter of how tilted it is. Despite the wealth gap you could argue it’s easier to rise up now than during the gilded age but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen statistics that suggest we lag behind other countries and/or our own history in that regard.

But don't we have the wealthiest poor and middle income groups in the world?

I thought of that as well. So now I'm going to have to actually go and find the study I was referring to.

Thanks a lot, you dick.

[CAA Flagship]

But don't we have the wealthiest poor and middle income groups in the world?

I thought of that as well. So now I'm going to have to actually go and find the study I was referring to.

Thanks a lot, you dick.

I'm guessing our bottom and middle have a higher standard of living, while our top have the best standard of living. Our overall team batting average is better than most countries despite the difference between the weak hitting 2nd baseman and the league leading right fielder.

[kalm]

I thought of that as well. So now I'm going to have to actually go and find the study I was referring to.

Thanks a lot, you dick.

I'm guessing our bottom and middle have a higher standard of living, while our top have the best standard of living. Our overall team batting average is better than most countries despite the difference between the weak hitting 2nd baseman and the league leading right fielder.

Here's one recent article...

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detai ... ir-country

[AZGrizFan]

But don't we have the wealthiest poor and middle income groups in the world?

I thought of that as well. So now I'm going to have to actually go and find the study I was referring to.

Thanks a lot, you dick.

damned facts are a sticky thing.