2020 General Election

[SeattleGriz]

Wrong.

I forget the guys name, but he has been systematically going through the voter rolls and marking those that were too young, out of state, etc and believes he can show voter fraud greater than the margin of victory in three states. This is probable fraud without an audit.

We'll see what he comes up with, but I'm sure your search was extensive as your research in claiming the Black Hebrew Israelites were the victims in the Covington Catholic debacle.

If only Trump’s legal team had thought to do that.

I'm telling you. I read that article from Patrick Byrne and he said Rudy was a doofus and Trump stuck with him. There were a good amount of people with impressive degrees and backgrounds coming up with the sort of information needed to get the courts to at least listen, but here we are.

Keep hearing the Senate trial is where evidence can be brought forward, but I'm not counting on it.

I simply want an audit to answer the question, that's all.

[SDHornet]

Yawn. Same thing can be said of the losing side in any election. There is always a battle to throw out votes that were cast by "not following the rules".

Are you seriously suggesting that what happened with Trump and his allies' effort to overturn the 2020 Presidential Election result is like ANYTHING we've had happen in our lifetimes?

You going to disavow Lincoln Project for having it look the other way on pedos or nah?

[SDHornet]

Weaver for sure, I think another one as well. The bigger issue is all the founders knew about it, as well as the press, and looked the other way.

So JSO, you going to disavow or what?

I hadn't heard about it until I saw reference to it here but, after looking it up, the answer is "no." Apparently one of the four founders had a secret life and did some bad things. That's not going to make me disavow the Lincoln project anymore than finding out that somebody on Wal Mart's Board of Directors killed his mother in law and stuck her in the freezer would make me stop shopping at Wal Mart. The Lincoln Project has disavowed him.

On a side note: The reason we know about this is because the New York Times reported it. People should consider that when they start with the "liberal bias" cop out conservatives often lean on when they're trying to obscure the truth.

So you condone the pedo lifestyle. You truly are a piece of work.

[SDHornet]

Say...if Republicans knew about allegations pertaining to Weaver since the 1980s, how come we never heard about them until he became associated with an entity attacking the current Republican Dear Leader? See https://www.newsweek.com/karl-rove-says ... rs-1565972.

Because the Lincoln Project served as a useful idiot to the Left you fucking retard. Now post election they are running the pedo stories that folks have been on to for years and people defending the LP just look like silly pedo cucks for doing so. Congrats.

[Pwns]

The Lincoln Project should've lost all credibility with all major wings of the GOP after backing the Donk candidates in Georgia.

[SDHornet]

If only Trump’s legal team had thought to do that.

I'm telling you. I read that article from Patrick Byrne and he said Rudy was a doofus and Trump stuck with him. There were a good amount of people with impressive degrees and backgrounds coming up with the sort of information needed to get the courts to at least listen, but here we are.

Keep hearing the Senate trial is where evidence can be brought forward, but I'm not counting on it.

I simply want an audit to answer the question, that's all.

That's all anyone needs to put the "lie" to bed. And yet here we are...

[SDHornet]

The Lincoln Project should've lost all credibility with all major wings of the GOP after backing the Donk candidates in Georgia.

Not to JSO. How principled of him.

[Skjellyfetti]

Cancel the Lincoln Project?

[SeattleGriz]

I'm telling you. I read that article from Patrick Byrne and he said Rudy was a doofus and Trump stuck with him. There were a good amount of people with impressive degrees and backgrounds coming up with the sort of information needed to get the courts to at least listen, but here we are.

Keep hearing the Senate trial is where evidence can be brought forward, but I'm not counting on it.

I simply want an audit to answer the question, that's all.

That's all anyone needs to put the "lie" to bed. And yet here we are...

Have you been paying attention to how hard Maricopa county in Arizona has been fighting an audit? Like I keep saying, even if an audit doesn't overturn an election, the election officials know they will be embarrassed by the results. Typical government trying to hide incompetence.

[SDHornet]

That's all anyone needs to put the "lie" to bed. And yet here we are...

Have you been paying attention to how hard Maricopa county in Arizona has been fighting an audit? Like I keep saying, even if an audit doesn't overturn an election, the election officials know they will be embarrassed by the results. Typical government trying to hide incompetence.

Yup. Puts all the "fair and free election" narratives to bed.

[UNI88]

Lin Wood and Sidney Powell should've lost all credibility with all major wings of the GOP after telling people not to vote in the Georgia runoffs.

FYP

[BDKJMU]

The Lincoln Project should've lost all credibility with all major wings of the GOP after backing the Donk candidates in Georgia.

Yep. That proved right there they were frauds by going after all conks. It went beyond being never Trumpers.

[kalm]

The Lincoln Project should've lost all credibility with all major wings of the GOP after backing the Donk candidates in Georgia.

Yep. That proved right there they were frauds by going after all conks. It went beyond being never Trumpers.

If they had only just gone after Trump and supported true populists like Loeffler and Perdue...

Lol.

[Gil Dobie]

That's all anyone needs to put the "lie" to bed. And yet here we are...

Have you been paying attention to how hard Maricopa county in Arizona has been fighting an audit? Like I keep saying, even if an audit doesn't overturn an election, the election officials know they will be embarrassed by the results. Typical government trying to hide incompetence.

Are all the bad votes for Biden, or are their bad Trump votes being found too.

[Ibanez]

That the election was stolen, silly.

Not a lie..

Should be easy to prove...yet here we are....2 months later and still no proof. Not a shred of evidence.

[kalm]

Not a lie..

Should be easy to prove...yet here we are....2 months later and still no proof. Not a shred of evidence.

Trump might be dumb enough to believe his own bullshit. Hence...not a lie.

[AZGrizFan]

I just realized something....in 2020 I continued my general trend of NOT having voted for the winner of the presidential election.

It’s kind of like when I buy a stock....short it.
When I vote for a president, the OTHER person will win about 95% of the time.

I have voted in every presidential election since 1980. I have voted for the winner this many times:

1980: Nope
1984: Yes
1988: Nope
1992: Nope
1996: Nope
2000: Nope
2004: Yes
2008: Nope
2012: Nope
2016: Nope
2020; Nope

Dammit. I need to start voting democrat so they’ll lose!!!

[BDKJMU]

Not a lie..

Should be easy to prove...yet here we are....2 months later and still no proof. Not a shred of evidence.

[SeattleGriz]

Have you been paying attention to how hard Maricopa county in Arizona has been fighting an audit? Like I keep saying, even if an audit doesn't overturn an election, the election officials know they will be embarrassed by the results. Typical government trying to hide incompetence.

Are all the bad votes for Biden, or are their bad Trump votes being found too.

I assume there are bad votes for Trump as well, but believe he is only trying to prove enough fraud existed one way that a forensic audit should be performed.

[SeattleGriz]

Not a lie..

Should be easy to prove...yet here we are....2 months later and still no proof. Not a shred of evidence.

Logic fail.

[∞∞∞]

Beside the handful of cases which always happen, still haven't seen evidence of some widespread conspiracy.

Have any of you volunteered for elections? Do it and let me know if you think it's still easy afterwards.

Anyways, the legislative and judicial systems worked exactly as intended. Checks and balances, amirite?

[UNI88]

Should be easy to prove...yet here we are....2 months later and still no proof. Not a shred of evidence.

FYP

[SeattleGriz]

FYP

I love Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. One of my favorite movies.

[GannonFan]

Beside the handful of cases which always happen, still haven't seen evidence of some widespread conspiracy.

Have any of you volunteered for elections? Do it and let me know if you think it's still easy afterwards.

Anyways, the legislative and judicial systems worked exactly as intended. Checks and balances, amirite?

Do we ever really have a way or do we even truly audit elections? I'm saying this as a voter who's happy that Trump lost, so I'm not looking at it from that angle. What I'm saying is, do we even have the mechanisms and the ability to truly go vote for vote, matchup the vote with the person, the person with verifiable way to prove it was them, prove that they were eligible, prove that their vote was counted, and prove that their vote should've been counted? We act as if our election systems are streamlined and world class, but again, I live in PA, and it was just in 2016, so 4 years ago, that there was literally no way to do a recount based on the way we voted then (machines, punch the buttons to make lights turn on, and then pull the lever to record those votes - there was literally no way to prove if my votes were actually tabulated and certainly no way to look at it after the fact).

Trump's a buffoon and a narcissist of the highest order, but we shouldn't let that deter us from the fact that our electoral system is rife with the possibility for not only just malfeasance and purposeful meddling, but also just simple error. It's a shame that we can't have a real discussion about that.

[AZGrizFan]

Beside the handful of cases which always happen, still haven't seen evidence of some widespread conspiracy.

Have any of you volunteered for elections? Do it and let me know if you think it's still easy afterwards.

Anyways, the legislative and judicial systems worked exactly as intended. Checks and balances, amirite?

Do we ever really have a way or do we even truly audit elections? I'm saying this as a voter who's happy that Trump lost, so I'm not looking at it from that angle. What I'm saying is, do we even have the mechanisms and the ability to truly go vote for vote, matchup the vote with the person, the person with verifiable way to prove it was them, prove that they were eligible, prove that their vote was counted, and prove that their vote should've been counted? We act as if our election systems are streamlined and world class, but again, I live in PA, and it was just in 2016, so 4 years ago, that there was literally no way to do a recount based on the way we voted then (machines, punch the buttons to make lights turn on, and then pull the lever to record those votes - there was literally no way to prove if my votes were actually tabulated and certainly no way to look at it after the fact).

Trump's a buffoon and a narcissist of the highest order, but we shouldn't let that deter us from the fact that our electoral system is rife with the possibility for not only just malfeasance and purposeful meddling, but also just simple error. It's a shame that we can't have a real discussion about that.

Was the discussion I attempted to have immediately after the election, but it wasn’t to be. Both sides (as voters) should want to ensure the system is safe and secure and replicable. Both sides (as politicians) seem to do everything in their power to oppose the idea.