Debt Limit

[BDKJMU]

Democrats hold a lot of blame here. When you say for 10 months that you're going to pass a $3.5T (closer to $5T) spending plan and that the GOP can go blow chunks because they don't need them and will pass it through reconciliation, it's crocodile tears to then turn around and expect the opposing party to join hands and sing a bipartisan hosanna when it comes time for the debt limit increase. Pandering to the party extremes rather than working to create bipartisanship creates situations like these. For a party with such slim majorities the Dems have played it like they hold a supermajority, and as a result, coupled with Biden's mental deterioration at the top, will see the Dems as the minority in at least one chamber of Congress after 2022. Politics is a strange game.

I don't think the Democrats share any of the blame on this at all. My understanding is that what we are talking about here is paying debts that have already been incurred. Also, Republicans have been fine with telling the Democrats that they can blow chunks in recent years. This is serious. I have got to believe that it won't happen. But opposing raising the debt limit right now is TOTALLY irresponsible. Doing this is just one more indication that the Republican Party is completely whacked.

I spent most of my life opposing the Democratic Party as the greater of two evils. But things have clearly changed. The Republican Party really needs to be eliminated as a factor. It's bad.

-Donks control the House, the Senate, and WH, so they own it.
-Over 1/3 of this spending is discretionary.
-The donks are talking about raising the debt limit AT THE SAME TIME time they are talking about blowing the doors the debt off with close to 5 trillion of new spending on top of close to 6 trillion we just had for the China Virus. You can’t make this shit up.

[Ibanez]

Maybe Democrats should just shut up and #DoTheirJob



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You're forgetting the first rule of politicians...Do as I say, Not as I do.

[Ibanez]

I don't think the Democrats share any of the blame on this at all. My understanding is that what we are talking about here is paying debts that have already been incurred. Also, Republicans have been fine with telling the Democrats that they can blow chunks in recent years. This is serious. I have got to believe that it won't happen. But opposing raising the debt limit right now is TOTALLY irresponsible. Doing this is just one more indication that the Republican Party is completely whacked.

I spent most of my life opposing the Democratic Party as the greater of two evils. But things have clearly changed. The Republican Party really needs to be eliminated as a factor. It's bad.

-Donks control the House, the Senate, and WH, so they own it.
-Over 1/3 of this spending is discretionary.
-The donks are talking about raising the debt limit AT THE SAME TIME time they are talking about blowing the doors the debt off with close to 5 trillion of new spending on top of close to 6 trillion we just had for the China Virus. You can’t make this shit up.

Yeah - anyone trying to say the Democrats have no part in this is on another friggin planet. Some choad acquaintance of a friend of mine tried to tell me how our spending has zero relation to our debt or borrowing behavior.

[Ibanez]

That's not to say the Republican's aren't blameless. It's still their country, they are still elected officials and SHOULD be putting the country ahead of politics and work with the Dems to find a solution. Them sitting back and doing nothing doesn't absolve them of their responsibilities.

[CID1990]

-Donks control the House, the Senate, and WH, so they own it.
-Over 1/3 of this spending is discretionary.
-The donks are talking about raising the debt limit AT THE SAME TIME time they are talking about blowing the doors the debt off with close to 5 trillion of new spending on top of close to 6 trillion we just had for the China Virus. You can’t make this shit up.

Some choad acquaintance of a friend of mine tried to tell me how our spending has zero relation to our debt or borrowing behavior.

^^^^ that right there is what is scary... few Americans actually understand the relationship - and it is why Congress is continually motivated to spend money in such a profligate manner. And then the critters go back to their districts and crow about what they did

There is some organization that does a scorecard for charitable organizations and how much of the money they actually take in gets on target. I wish they would rank the USG in there. It would for sure rank below most televangelists


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[Ibanez]

Some choad acquaintance of a friend of mine tried to tell me how our spending has zero relation to our debt or borrowing behavior.

^^^^ that right there is what is scary... few Americans actually understand the relationship - and it is why Congress is continually motivated to spend money in such a profligate manner. And then the critters go back to their districts and crow about what they did

There is some organization that does a scorecard for charitable organizations and how much of the money they actually take in gets on target. I wish they would rank the USG in there. It would for sure rank below most televangelists


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What's scarier is that he's a lawyer who has run for public office before. Thankfully he's never won.

[CID1990]

I'd love to hear JSO give his take on the Human Infrastructure proposal.

Hell, I’d just like him to issue a ruling on whether Biden was a) lying or b) senile when he said the generals never recommended he keep some troops in Afghanistan.


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[Ibanez]

I'd love to hear JSO give his take on the Human Infrastructure proposal.

Hell, I’d just like him to issue a ruling on whether Biden was a) lying or b) senile when he said the generals never recommended he keep some troops in Afghanistan.


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He could've been tripping ball sacks and thought he was talking to gummy bears.

Or Care Bears!

[andy7171]

I'd love to hear JSO give his take on the Human Infrastructure proposal.

Hell, I’d just like him to issue a ruling on whether Biden was a) lying or b) senile when he said the generals never recommended he keep some troops in Afghanistan.


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"not that I recall" was his saving grace. Slick Willy strikes again.

[andy7171]

Maybe Democrats should just shut up and #DoTheirJob



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You're forgetting the first rule of politicians...Do as I say, Not as I do.

OR, the first quote is Russian disinformation.

[andy7171]

Anyone remember the days of AGS when entire strings of quotes would be captured? I was borderline worried the DSU image wouldn't carry over.

[DSUrocks07]

You're forgetting the first rule of politicians...Do as I say, Not as I do.

OR, the second quote is Russian disinformation.

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[CID1990]

Hell, I’d just like him to issue a ruling on whether Biden was a) lying or b) senile when he said the generals never recommended he keep some troops in Afghanistan.


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"not that I recall" was his saving grace. Slick Willy strikes again.

So .... senile.

CENTCOM commander said explicitly that Biden listened closely to the recommendations

Maybe he was thinking about dog faces and pony soldiers or maybe hoping for a rewarding bowel movement


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[Ibanez]

"not that I recall" was his saving grace. Slick Willy strikes again.

So .... senile.

CENTCOM commander said explicitly that Biden listened closely to the recommendations

Maybe he was thinking about dog faces and pony soldiers or maybe hoping for a rewarding bowel movement


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Do you know what the best part of Alzheimer's is?

Spoiler: show

Every day, you meet someone new.

[Ivytalk]

So .... senile.

CENTCOM commander said explicitly that Biden listened closely to the recommendations

Maybe he was thinking about dog faces and pony soldiers or maybe hoping for a rewarding bowel movement


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Do you know what the best part of Alzheimer's is?

Spoiler: show

Every day, you meet someone new.

Ha! Good one!

I guess JSO will never get Alzheimer’s, then.

[andy7171]

"not that I recall" was his saving grace. Slick Willy strikes again.

So .... senile.

CENTCOM commander said explicitly that Biden listened closely to the recommendations

Maybe he was thinking about dog faces and pony soldiers or maybe hoping for a rewarding bowel movement


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BUT, will JSO agree with you? It's a clear defined choice, he's senile or lying.

[UNI88]

So .... senile.

CENTCOM commander said explicitly that Biden listened closely to the recommendations

Maybe he was thinking about dog faces and pony soldiers or maybe hoping for a rewarding bowel movement

BUT, will JSO agree with you? It's a clear defined choice, he's senile or lying.

No it isn't, there are three choices. He could be senile and lying.

[andy7171]

BUT, will JSO agree with you? It's a clear defined choice, he's senile or lying.

No it isn't, there are three choices. He could be senile and lying.

He won't like that one either.

[BDKJMU]

Hell, I’d just like him to issue a ruling on whether Biden was a) lying or b) senile when he said the generals never recommended he keep some troops in Afghanistan.


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"not that I recall" was his saving grace. Slick Willy strikes again.

Well also according to Biden, and Little Red Lying Hood, the advice was ‘split’, which would contradict the ‘I don’t recall’.

[SeattleGriz]

Racist! Making the white power symbol.

[BDKJMU]

The debt limit could be raised through reconciliation without a single conk vote. Bit since reconciliation can be only used 1 time oer year, the donks coulsn’t then use it to pay for their 3.5 trillion monstrosity.

[Ibanez]

"not that I recall" was his saving grace. Slick Willy strikes again.

Well also according to Biden, and Little Red Lying Hood, the advice was ‘split’, which would contradict the ‘I don’t recall’.

I think Biden has gotten away from the talking points.

And don't get down on the Redhead...she's going to spin just like ever other press secretary. Name me one press secretary who didn't lie. I'll wait. Let's not forget Alternative Facts, the Bowling Green Massacre (advisor, not press secretary but still...)

[BDKJMU]

Well also according to Biden, and Little Red Lying Hood, the advice was ‘split’, which would contradict the ‘I don’t recall’.

I think Biden has gotten away from the talking points.

And don't get down on the Redhead...she's going to spin just like ever other press secretary. Name me one press secretary who didn't lie. I'll wait. Let's not forget Alternative Facts, the Bowling Green Massacre (advisor, not press secretary but still...)

She has taken it to a new level beyond what any donk or conk press secretary in the past has.

[89Hen]

I think Biden has gotten away from the talking points.

And don't get down on the Redhead...she's going to spin just like ever other press secretary. Name me one press secretary who didn't lie. I'll wait. Let's not forget Alternative Facts, the Bowling Green Massacre (advisor, not press secretary but still...)

She has taken it to a new level beyond what any donk or conk press secretary in the past has.

Not really. It's their job.

[Ivytalk]

Well also according to Biden, and Little Red Lying Hood, the advice was ‘split’, which would contradict the ‘I don’t recall’.

I think Biden has gotten away from the talking points.

And don't get down on the Redhead...she's going to spin just like ever other press secretary. Name me one press secretary who didn't lie. I'll wait. Let's not forget Alternative Facts, the Bowling Green Massacre (advisor, not press secretary but still...)

This babe is in a league of her own: she lies, she knows she’s lying, the press knows she knows she’s lying, she evades questions, and she gets away with it. I’ve seen some pretty good press secretaries from both parties: Pierre Salinger, Ron Nessen, DeeDee Myers, Tony Snow. They all protect their bosses, but they have to provide sufficient accurate information to generate credibility with the press corps. Psaki flunks on all counts.