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GannonFan wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:54 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:35 am

Not surprise when most Americans are vaccinated. If you are in a room with 100 people, all vaccinated, 100% of the covid cases will be breakthrough cases. Hart is spewing more BS narrative.
Those stats also assume that everybody goes and gets tested when they get sick. I think you could make a pretty good argument that people that are vehemently anti-vax will also be less likely to get tested if and when they get sick. Conversely, the pro-vaccine folks will probably be the first folks to get tested the moment they have any symptoms. That's why case counts have been notoriously unreliable as a measure.
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SDHornet wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:04 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:59 pm

So here is a link about CNN, but you don't watch CNN. It's a shitty, shitty cable channel, just like Fox news.
It's a dude pointing out that CNN's "medical expert" got owned by a comedian/MMA announcer. You must have missed something. :lol:
that's just...like....the dude's opinion....
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:35 am
SDHornet wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:25 pm Oh.

Not surprise when most Americans are vaccinated. If you are in a room with 100 people, all vaccinated, 100% of the covid cases will be breakthrough cases. Hart is spewing more BS narrative.
And those 100 people that are vaxxed are supposedly protected from catching it...or so we were told...
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GannonFan wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:54 am
Those stats also assume that everybody goes and gets tested when they get sick. I think you could make a pretty good argument that people that are vehemently anti-vax will also be less likely to get tested if and when they get sick. Conversely, the pro-vaccine folks will probably be the first folks to get tested the moment they have any symptoms. That's why case counts have been notoriously unreliable as a measure.
It is not just the vehemently anti-vax that are not getting tested. I know of an entire HS football team that the players all decided that they would not be tested and just stayed home if they felt something coming on. Here at work, people just take sick leave and leave it at that.

The only people (here in Northern Flyover country at least) that are getting tested are: told to be tested, tested due to a job, or worried about it in some manner.
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WSU just fired Rolovich for refusing the vaccine.

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SDHornet wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:10 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:35 am

Not surprise when most Americans are vaccinated. If you are in a room with 100 people, all vaccinated, 100% of the covid cases will be breakthrough cases. Hart is spewing more BS narrative.
And those 100 people that are vaxxed are supposedly protected from catching it...or so we were told...
Whose is we, I was told the vaccines were not 100%. But I don't follow the CNN watchers on Twitter. :)
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Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:17 pm
SDHornet wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:10 pm

And those 100 people that are vaxxed are supposedly protected from catching it...or so we were told...
Whose is we, I was told the vaccines were not 100%. But I don't follow the CNN watchers on Twitter. :)
It falls under the "we can go back to normal once we have a vaccine" narrative that was pushed by the fear porn mongers.
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kalm wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:25 pm WSU just fired Rolovich for refusing the vaccine.

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Saw that. Guaranteed money for not working for that guy. Well played.
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SDHornet wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:38 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:17 pm

Whose is we, I was told the vaccines were not 100%. But I don't follow the CNN watchers on Twitter. :)
It falls under the "we can go back to normal once we have a vaccine" narrative that was pushed by the fear porn mongers.
Again, why do you believe what the lefties say, versus anti-vaxxers with the chips in the vaccine, vaccine not tested, vaccine kills, vaccine side effects fear porn. I don't fall for any of the crapola from either side. Talk to your personal MD or second opinion if needed, and make your choice.
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SDHornet wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:39 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:25 pm WSU just fired Rolovich for refusing the vaccine.

Go Cougs…
Saw that. Guaranteed money for not working for that guy. Well played.
Perhaps…but poor leadership on his part.
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I have to say that I'm growing more and more uncomfortable about the "vax or get fired" thing.
Like most things in the world, things are not black and white.
1. The vaccines are proven to not always prevent infection.
2. If you contracted COVID already, your antibodies may be better protection than the vaccines can provide.
3. What if you work from home?
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SDHornet wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:10 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:35 am

Not surprise when most Americans are vaccinated. If you are in a room with 100 people, all vaccinated, 100% of the covid cases will be breakthrough cases. Hart is spewing more BS narrative.
And those 100 people that are vaxxed are supposedly protected from catching it...or so we were told...
No thats what you think you were told. No vaccine is 100% effective and everybody but you seems to get that. The reason you get vaccinated is to ameliorate your reaction to catching the virus if you do and that is exactly whats happening. Thats why the people clogging the ICUs and using the ventilators are overwhelmingly the unvaccinated. JFC :ohno:
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CAA Flagship wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:28 am I have to say that I'm growing more and more uncomfortable about the "vax or get fired" thing.
Like most things in the world, things are not black and white.
1. The vaccines are proven to not always prevent infection.
2. If you contracted COVID already, your antibodies may be better protection than the vaccines can provide.
3. What if you work from home?

....but.....but.....you have a right to work wherever you want to....

(Actually I'm surprised that more of the mega corporations aren't leaning on the government to make it official - that way everybody has to do it and those deadbeat scum bag workers won't be able to just go down the street and work somewhere else that doesn't require vacination. I mean wtf is next? Companies losing control of their employees healthcare?)
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houndawg wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:37 am
SDHornet wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:10 pm

And those 100 people that are vaxxed are supposedly protected from catching it...or so we were told...
No thats what you think you were told. No vaccine is 100% effective and everybody but you seems to get that. The reason you get vaccinated is to ameliorate your reaction to catching the virus if you do and that is exactly whats happening. Thats why the people clogging the ICUs and using the ventilators are overwhelmingly the unvaccinated. JFC :ohno:
SD is closer to the truth than you are. We were told the reason to get vaccinated was to stop the spread. Why else would different government agencies, businesses and schools put in rules saying unvaxed had to show a negative test to come to work, but vaxed didn't?
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kalm wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:19 am
SDHornet wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:39 pm
Saw that. Guaranteed money for not working for that guy. Well played.
Perhaps…but poor leadership on his part.
1) Coaches are always telling their players to put the team first. Rolovich put himself first and let his team and his staff (all of those that remain will most likely be fired after the season) down.

2) He was fired for cause. Will he get paid?
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89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:46 am
houndawg wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:37 am

No thats what you think you were told. No vaccine is 100% effective and everybody but you seems to get that. The reason you get vaccinated is to ameliorate your reaction to catching the virus if you do and that is exactly whats happening. Thats why the people clogging the ICUs and using the ventilators are overwhelmingly the unvaccinated. JFC :ohno:
SD is closer to the truth than you are. We were told the reason to get vaccinated was to stop the spread. Why else would different government agencies, businesses and schools put in rules saying unvaxed had to show a negative test to come to work, but vaxed didn't?
I always read it was to slow the spread and lesson the severity. I don't include what I have heard or read on Social Media. All the vaccines were considered to be less than 100% when approved for emergency use by the FDA.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:47 am
89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:46 am
SD is closer to the truth than you are. We were told the reason to get vaccinated was to stop the spread. Why else would different government agencies, businesses and schools put in rules saying unvaxed had to show a negative test to come to work, but vaxed didn't?
I always read it was to slow the spread and lesson the severity. I don't include what I have heard or read on Social Media. All the vaccines were considered to be less than 100% when approved for emergency use by the FDA.
Always? That would be incorrect. It became 'lessen the severity' once it was clear it wasn't keeping you from getting it. When it came out, Fauci and the CDC were ALL about it stopping the spread, period.

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So a guy INTENTIONALLY got COVID. Stupid....

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89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:20 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:47 am
I always read it was to slow the spread and lesson the severity. I don't include what I have heard or read on Social Media. All the vaccines were considered to be less than 100% when approved for emergency use by the FDA.
Always? That would be incorrect. It became 'lessen the severity' once it was clear it wasn't keeping you from getting it. When it came out, Fauci and the CDC were ALL about it stopping the spread, period.
Fauxi is an arrogant putz but why is it wrong for his (or anyone else's) position to change over time? It's a virus that we are still learning about, it's natural for new information to change what is believed.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:42 pm
89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:20 pm
Always? That would be incorrect. It became 'lessen the severity' once it was clear it wasn't keeping you from getting it. When it came out, Fauci and the CDC were ALL about it stopping the spread, period.
Fauxi is an arrogant putz but why is it wrong for his (or anyone else's) position to change over time? It's a virus that we are still learning about, it's natural for new information to change what is believed.
It's not wrong to change your position when you're wrong. Or lie to get to an ends (N65 masks). It's cool if you still feel the need to defend someone who has been wrong a lot and admitted to lying to the entire nation. :thumb:
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:42 pm
89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:20 pm
Always? That would be incorrect. It became 'lessen the severity' once it was clear it wasn't keeping you from getting it. When it came out, Fauci and the CDC were ALL about it stopping the spread, period.
Fauxi is an arrogant putz but why is it wrong for his (or anyone else's) position to change over time? It's a virus that we are still learning about, it's natural for new information to change what is believed.
Nope. you aren't allowed to change your position based on new information.
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kalm wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 5:25 pm WSU just fired Rolovich for refusing the vaccine.

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Any word on if he'll sue?
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89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:49 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:42 pm

Fauxi is an arrogant putz but why is it wrong for his (or anyone else's) position to change over time? It's a virus that we are still learning about, it's natural for new information to change what is believed.
It's not wrong to change your position when you're wrong. Or lie to get to an ends (N65 masks). It's cool if you still feel the need to defend someone who has been wrong a lot and admitted to lying to the entire nation. :thumb:
The world isn't so black and white. The guy made mistakes but he's allowed an evolving opinion. Aren't we all?
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89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:49 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:42 pm
Fauxi is an arrogant putz but why is it wrong for his (or anyone else's) position to change over time? It's a virus that we are still learning about, it's natural for new information to change what is believed.
It's not wrong to change your position when you're wrong. Or lie to get to an ends (N65 masks). It's cool if you still feel the need to defend someone who has been wrong a lot and admitted to lying to the entire nation. :thumb:
Calling him Fauxi and saying he's an arrogant putz is defending him?

I'm saying that just because the vaccine didn't work exactly the way they said it would doesn't mean that the vaccine is bad or ineffective which seems to be part of the anti-vax argument.
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UNI88 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:55 pm
89Hen wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:49 pm
It's not wrong to change your position when you're wrong. Or lie to get to an ends (N65 masks). It's cool if you still feel the need to defend someone who has been wrong a lot and admitted to lying to the entire nation. :thumb:
Calling him Fauxi and saying he's an arrogant putz is defending him?

I'm saying that just because the vaccine didn't work exactly the way they said it would doesn't mean that the vaccine is bad or ineffective which seems to be part of the anti-vax argument.
That and it magnetizes you, changes the menstrul cycles of the unvaxxed women you come near, alters your DNA and puts a tracking chip in your body.
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