The Ukraine Crisis

[SeattleGriz]

Why do all the interesting guys get "disappeared" or censored.

This guy was talking about what a mess it was when Zelensky released all the prisoners to fight. Seems the prisoners were more interested in settling old debts as opposed to fighting for their country. Not implying criminals captured him. It was AZOV.

CNN ... Ha ... ... Fake News ...

It's CNN Chile. They're okay!

Got me though.

[SeattleGriz]

He's got pretty good ratings within Russia right now.

Propaganda is effective until it isn’t. The Berlin Wall likely had good ratings in the Soviet Union before it fell.

I can't comment on what is said in Russia, but don't you find it odd the Russians have left communications up in Ukraine? The last war the US was in, we bombed the shit out of infrastructure and communications.

So why didn't Russia do that in Ukraine?

[Ibanez]

Getting the US more involved than we already are is a slippery slope. I would say that it does suck for the Ukraine that they have no allies that can send troops to help. We know this isn't the end of Russian aggression until Putin and Lavrov are gone.

Would it be? I saw somewhere a month or 2 ago that the guy who would likely replace Putin is allegedly even worse..

If you can speak in absolutes, why can't i??

[Ibanez]

Propaganda is effective until it isn’t. The Berlin Wall likely had good ratings in the Soviet Union before it fell.

I can't comment on what is said in Russia, but don't you find it odd the Russians have left communications up in Ukraine? The last war the US was in, we bombed the shit out of infrastructure and communications.

So why didn't Russia do that in Ukraine?

Because Putin didn't think this through. I'm not quite sure what their battle plan is. Taking Mariupol to create a land bridge seems to make sense but I would do that AFTER I knocked out communications and had dominated the airspace.

Take out COMMS. Rule the Sky. Rule the Sea. Invade.

Russia didn't do that. I think they expected an Anaconda type offensive. They also underestimated their opponent and their resolve.

[SeattleGriz]

I am shocked! India aligns with BRIC and now all of a sudden, Blinken is worried about India's human rights abuse. Why didn't we hear about this before?

This ties into the war.

[SeattleGriz]

I can't comment on what is said in Russia, but don't you find it odd the Russians have left communications up in Ukraine? The last war the US was in, we bombed the shit out of infrastructure and communications.

So why didn't Russia do that in Ukraine?

Because Putin didn't think this through. I'm not quite sure what their battle plan is. Taking Mariupol to create a land bridge seems to make sense but I would do that AFTER I knocked out communications and had dominated the airspace.

Take out COMMS. Rule the Sky. Rule the Sea. Invade.

Russia didn't do that. I think they expected an Anaconda type offensive. They also underestimated their opponent and their resolve.

Putin didn't think it through? Sorry, not buying that. I would bet he thought this through many times.

Maybe they were never interested in leveling a nation they want to absorb?

[Winterborn]

Because Putin didn't think this through. I'm not quite sure what their battle plan is. Taking Mariupol to create a land bridge seems to make sense but I would do that AFTER I knocked out communications and had dominated the airspace.

Take out COMMS. Rule the Sky. Rule the Sea. Invade.

Russia didn't do that. I think they expected an Anaconda type offensive. They also underestimated their opponent and their resolve.

Putin didn't think it through? Sorry, not buying that. I would bet he thought this through many times.

Maybe they were never interested in leveling a nation they want to absorb?

It is probably a bit of both. Putin had a general plan and relied on others to do the details.

And then there was a failure to communicate between the two parties.

[Ibanez]

Because Putin didn't think this through. I'm not quite sure what their battle plan is. Taking Mariupol to create a land bridge seems to make sense but I would do that AFTER I knocked out communications and had dominated the airspace.

Take out COMMS. Rule the Sky. Rule the Sea. Invade.

Russia didn't do that. I think they expected an Anaconda type offensive. They also underestimated their opponent and their resolve.

Putin didn't think it through? Sorry, not buying that. I would bet he thought this through many times.

Maybe they were never interested in leveling a nation they want to absorb?

Poor choice of words. I'm sure he thought about what he is doing but he didn't think it through from his enemies perspective. I feel he just assumed that just like in Syria, Crimea and Georgia, there'd be little resistance and nothing from the international community. There have been so many "red lines" drawn in the past 15 years or so and each time he's crossed them. Each time the consequences haven't been detrimental. This time...it's hurting. Their rubie is fighting back but NORDStream 2, SWIFT, asset seizure, etc.. are taking its toll.

[Ibanez]

Putin didn't think it through? Sorry, not buying that. I would bet he thought this through many times.

Maybe they were never interested in leveling a nation they want to absorb?

It is probably a bit of both. Putin had a general plan and relied on others to do the details.

And then there was a failure to communicate between the two parties.

I mean, Hitler thought his plans through, but that doesn't mean he considered every angle and made sound decisions.

[Winterborn]

It is probably a bit of both. Putin had a general plan and relied on others to do the details.

And then there was a failure to communicate between the two parties.

I mean, Hitler thought his plans through, but that doesn't mean he considered every angle and made sound decisions.

Well both (Hitler and Putin) started out somewhat sane and then wound up going crazy. So the comparison is probably apt.

[Baldy]

This assclown just wants us to root for the Russians
I hope someone teaches him which end of the rifle is which before he hurts himself.

[Ibanez]

This assclown just wants us to root for the Russians
I hope someone teaches him which end of the rifle is which before he hurts himself.

I'm confused...who does? The guy in the picture with the #StopRussia?

[Skjellyfetti]

yeah, not sure why that photo would make you want to root for russia.

but, something tells me it doesn't take much... any excuse will do.

[AZGrizFan]

yeah, not sure why that photo would make you want to root for russia.

but, something tells me it doesn't take much... any excuse will do.

Well, you did it for 5 solid years, so you would know.

[Ibanez]

yeah, not sure why that photo would make you want to root for russia.

but, something tells me it doesn't take much... any excuse will do.

That dude is boots on the ground with the Ukrainians fighting against Russia.

[HI54UNI]

Read some bio info on Nance and you might understand the dislike.

[kalm]

yeah, not sure why that photo would make you want to root for russia.

but, something tells me it doesn't take much... any excuse will do.

That dude is boots on the ground with the Ukrainians fighting against Russia.

Isn’t he the former CIA guy that made appearances on MSNBC or CNN?

[Ibanez]

Read some bio info on Nance and you might understand the dislike.

I read a quick bio - still not sure what the problem is? Is it because he's called Trump a useful idiot? He's anti-torture? Wrote an anti-Trump book? I hadn't heard of the man until today so is there more to dislike that what's on Wiki?

[Baldy]

yeah, not sure why that photo would make you want to root for russia.

but, something tells me it doesn't take much... any excuse will do.

We have CID to thank for giving you the perfect moniker, Reek. An overtly woke overweight social security eligible senior citizen dressing up in tactical gear to go play army soldier is a little funny.

[Baldy]

That dude is boots on the ground with the Ukrainians fighting against Russia.

Isn’t he the former CIA guy that made appearances on MSNBC or CNN?

He's an MSNBC pundit with a very large mouth. Kinda like Hannity, but even more annoying.

[Skjellyfetti]

yeah, not sure why that photo would make you want to root for russia.

but, something tells me it doesn't take much... any excuse will do.

Well, you did it for 5 solid years, so you would know.

I rooted for Russia for 5 years? wat?

[SeattleGriz]

This assclown just wants us to root for the Russians
I hope someone teaches him which end of the rifle is which before he hurts himself.

He looks almost as bad as John Kerry and his Vietnam videos wearing his grenade bandolier.

[kalm]

Isn’t he the former CIA guy that made appearances on MSNBC or CNN?

He's an MSNBC pundit with a very large mouth. Kinda like Hannity, but even more annoying.

I looked up his wiki page. Not CIA but an impressive career in military intelligence and as an author. Putting his money where his mouth is.

[cx500d]

This assclown just wants us to root for the Russians
I hope someone teaches him which end of the rifle is which before he hurts himself.

Well, he’s retired military, was a SERE instructor, etc., so I’d say he’s a lot more capable than you.

[Baldy]

This assclown just wants us to root for the Russians
I hope someone teaches him which end of the rifle is which before he hurts himself.

Well, he’s retired military, was a SERE instructor, etc., so I’d say he’s a lot more capable than you.

That would be a valid point if I were over there. Let's just hope he's cosplaying in western Ukraine, stays out of the way, and doesn't get anyone hurt.