Haven't you said your wife is an evangelical Christian? Or is my memory bad?JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:35 pmLook, we've got a serious problem right now. We have a major political Party that is beholding to a core base of people who are completely separated from reality. They depend on overwhelming support among a group that is around 30% of the population and believes that a series of myths written between something like 4,000 and 1,800 years ago is the inerrant truth. it's the American Taliban.
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And the other major political party believes that a series of lies written in 1848 just “hasn’t been done right” and are willing to throw away the greatest nation on earth to give Marx another shot. They’re the American Stalin.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:35 pm
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Or maybe Thursday. They are dragging this out
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AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:23 pmAnd the other major political party believes that a series of lies written in 1848 just “hasn’t been done right” and are willing to throw away the greatest nation on earth to give Marx another shot. They’re the American Stalin.JohnStOnge wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:35 pm
Look, we've got a serious problem right now. We have a major political Party that is beholding to a core base of people who are completely separated from reality. They depend on overwhelming support among a group that is around 30% of the population and believes that a series of myths written between something like 4,000 and 1,800 years ago is the inerrant truth. it's the American Taliban.
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No. And certainly not concerning abortion, which was not a right entrenched in our nation and traditions.kalm wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:31 amWouldn’t autonomy over one’s body be included? It’s tough to move past the philosophical debate of when life begins.JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:17 am
But the Ninth Amendment is not a bottomless cookie jar of non-enumerated rights. As the Court has said, the Ninth Amendment protects a very narrow class of rights, firmly entrenched and identifiable within the nation's traditions, and which existed within the common law at the time the constitution was ratified (marriage, parental rights, and other rights of that nature).
But this is a great question, because it addresses a critical point. There is no GENERAL privacy right within the constitution, although certain privacy expectations are protected in specific ways. For example, you are protected in your person and your home from searches and seizures, unless a warrant has been issued.
However, state constitutions ALL have some provision concerning the scope of personal privacy. You hold these rights by virtue of your citizenship of your home state, not as a citizen of the United States.
People have completely lost sight on all the federal constitution and the state constitutions are supposed to work hand in hand. The Founders would have understood that if a woman has a right to an abortion, that right exists under state law.
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You are ahead of the curve.JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:26 am No. And certainly not concerning abortion, which was not a right entrenched in our nation and traditions.
But this is a great question, because it addresses a critical point. There is no GENERAL privacy right within the constitution, although certain privacy expectations are protected in specific ways. For example, you are protected in your person and your home from searches and seizures, unless a warrant has been issued.
However, state constitutions ALL have some provision concerning the scope of personal privacy. You hold these rights by virtue of your citizenship of your home state, not as a citizen of the United States.
People have completely lost sight on all the federal constitution and the state constitutions are supposed to work hand in hand. The Founders would have understood that if a woman has a right to an abortion, that right exists under state law.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/06 ... ns-n479625Let’s start with the Politico column from NYU law school official Alicia Bannon, who reveals that states have sovereign governments and constitutions, too:
First, congratulations on discovering federalism and the Ninth and Tenth Amendments in 2022. Second, the “primary bulwark” for the protection of rights isn’t the Supreme Court, but the Constitution itself. The Roe court arrogated that position by discovering a supposed constitutional right for something not even mentioned in the Constitution, so the confusion is understandable — although maybe less so from the director of a Judiciary Program at NYU Law. Adherence to the Constitution by the judiciary is a constitutional responsibility, so even the “bulwark” efforts by judges still have their basis in the Constitution, not the subordinate offices it creates.The Supreme Court’s rulings, based on the U.S. Constitution and the justices’ interpretation of federal law, have long been viewed as the primary bulwark for the rights that Americans enjoy.
But the federal courts are only part of the story. The United States is also governed by 50 state constitutions, each of which can potentially offer greater rights protections than the federal constitution.
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That’s a solid explanation.JoltinJoe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:26 amNo. And certainly not concerning abortion, which was not a right entrenched in our nation and traditions.
But this is a great question, because it addresses a critical point. There is no GENERAL privacy right within the constitution, although certain privacy expectations are protected in specific ways. For example, you are protected in your person and your home from searches and seizures, unless a warrant has been issued.
However, state constitutions ALL have some provision concerning the scope of personal privacy. You hold these rights by virtue of your citizenship of your home state, not as a citizen of the United States.
People have completely lost sight on all the federal constitution and the state constitutions are supposed to work hand in hand. The Founders would have understood that if a woman has a right to an abortion, that right exists under state law.
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West Virgina wins 6-3! Huge win against the tyranny of the EPA..Winterborn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:05 amThe markets do not like uncertainty. This decision takes some of that off the board.
What I am curious about is the EPA case decision.
https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme ... nge-2022-6
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SCOTUS rules for Biden admin 5-4 (not totally along the usual lines) allowing Remain in Mexico to end.
Last year was record illegals crossing.
This year record record.
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So the Environmental Protection Agency doesn't have the authority to protect the environment???BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:31 amWest Virgina wins 6-3! Huge win against the tyranny of the EPA..Winterborn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:05 am
The markets do not like uncertainty. This decision takes some of that off the board.
What I am curious about is the EPA case decision.
https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme ... nge-2022-6
I guess we can just shut down that whole agency and pocket the money. I'm looking forward to my tax refund.
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No, but they can’t completely reengineer Americans’ sources of electricity around a radical climate agenda based on the agency’s expansive interpretation of a narrow provision in the Clean Air Act.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:18 pmSo the Environmental Protection Agency doesn't have the authority to protect the environment???BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:31 am
West Virgina wins 6-3! Huge win against the tyranny of the EPA..
https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme ... nge-2022-6
I guess we can just shut down that whole agency and pocket the money. I'm looking forward to my tax refund.
A victory for the American consumer..
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Leftards are losing it over the EPA decison. Ex- Pocahontas approving the Island Is Going To Tip Over level of stupidity..
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WAFJ. The court is an embarrassment
Justice Thomas cites debunked claim that Covid vaccines are made with cells from 'aborted children'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156
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Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:26 pm WAFJ. The court is an embarrassment
Justice Thomas cites debunked claim that Covid vaccines are made with cells from 'aborted children'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ka ... t-epa-caseJustice Kagan warns parts of East Coast could be 'swallowed by the ocean' in dissent in EPA case
…."If the current rate of emissions continues, children born this year could live to see parts of the Eastern seaboard swallowed by the ocean," Kagan wrote in her dissent….
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Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:26 pm WAFJ. The court is an embarrassment
Justice Thomas cites debunked claim that Covid vaccines are made with cells from 'aborted children'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156
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Jelly having another Russia Russia Russia moment..SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:33 pmSkjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:26 pm WAFJ. The court is an embarrassment
Justice Thomas cites debunked claim that Covid vaccines are made with cells from 'aborted children'
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Now it is back in Congresses hands (where it right should have been all along).BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:31 amWest Virgina wins 6-3! Huge win against the tyranny of the EPA..Winterborn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:05 am
The markets do not like uncertainty. This decision takes some of that off the board.
What I am curious about is the EPA case decision.
https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme ... nge-2022-6
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It will probably happen one day. Just that none of the current generation or the next few will be around to see it.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:40 pmSkjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:26 pm WAFJ. The court is an embarrassment
Justice Thomas cites debunked claim that Covid vaccines are made with cells from 'aborted children'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... -rcna36156https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/ka ... t-epa-caseJustice Kagan warns parts of East Coast could be 'swallowed by the ocean' in dissent in EPA case
…."If the current rate of emissions continues, children born this year could live to see parts of the Eastern seaboard swallowed by the ocean," Kagan wrote in her dissent….
Could happen sooner if there is a a bit of slippage in the Rampo or East Coast fault line. Or if the New Madrid fault becomes active again.
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They have the authority to act under Congressional guidance (regulations that Congress passes) not a blank check to do whatever they want.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:18 pmSo the Environmental Protection Agency doesn't have the authority to protect the environment???BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:31 am
West Virgina wins 6-3! Huge win against the tyranny of the EPA..
https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme ... nge-2022-6
I guess we can just shut down that whole agency and pocket the money. I'm looking forward to my tax refund.
Congress did not give them unilateral authority, which is how the EPA has been acting since the 90's.
And I am all for working on keeping the environment clean and healthy. Just it needs to be evidence based.
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Thurgood Marshall and Clarence Thomas weren’t and aren’t black, according to CBS News..
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Said it many times. Worried we will poison ourselves to death. Not evil, just didn't know how to test what was problematic.Winterborn wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:18 pmThey have the authority to act under Congressional guidance (regulations that Congress passes) not a blank check to do whatever they want.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:18 pm
So the Environmental Protection Agency doesn't have the authority to protect the environment???
I guess we can just shut down that whole agency and pocket the money. I'm looking forward to my tax refund.
Congress did not give them unilateral authority, which is how the EPA has been acting since the 90's.
And I am all for working on keeping the environment clean and healthy. Just it needs to be evidence based.
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Laws are made by elected lawmakers in Congress, not by unaccountable government bureaucrats.bobbythekidd wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:18 pmSo the Environmental Protection Agency doesn't have the authority to protect the environment???BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:31 am
West Virgina wins 6-3! Huge win against the tyranny of the EPA..
https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme ... nge-2022-6
I guess we can just shut down that whole agency and pocket the money. I'm looking forward to my tax refund.