The Ukraine Crisis

[Skjellyfetti]

Agreed. Why do you think I always post predictions? It's a way to go back and see who was right.

Have any of your predictions in this thread come true?

[SeattleGriz]

Agreed. Why do you think I always post predictions? It's a way to go back and see who was right.

Have any of your predictions in this thread come true?

They weren't my predictions, but not yet. The only one I have out there is that Russia was "restocking" and will invade soon. As to how aggressively, I have no idea, but I've been saying once the ground is frozen.

I've mostly been pointing out that Russia is not losing and providing solid proof for people who apparently don't understand how artillery or troop movements work. Essentially, pretty basic shit if you have half a clue.

[SeattleGriz]

[Silenoz]

Have any of your predictions in this thread come true?

They weren't my predictions, but not yet.

Some people would choose this moment to sit back and have an epiphany. Maybe rethink their "sources.". Or at least the manner in which they cherry pick what they accept as true.

Others may choose to double down.

Real "basic stuff."

[SeattleGriz]

They weren't my predictions, but not yet.

Some people would choose this moment to sit back and have an epiphany. Maybe rethink their "sources.". Or at least the manner in which they cherry pick what they accept as true.

Others may choose to double down.

Real "basic stuff."

And what exactly should "that" person rethink?

That Ukraine is actually stronger capability wise over Russia?
That Ukraine doesn't have a problem with hand me down weaponry?
That Ukraine isn't running out of ammunition?
That Ukraine isn't having a problem with their hand me down weaponry needing to be cycled out of usage for maintenance?
That Ukraine needs to train their personnel on all new equipment?
That Ukraine doesn't have a problem getting the hand me down weaponry through Poland to where it is needed with the electrical grid being attacked, with the railways being powered by electricity?

Basic stuff bro, basic stuff.

I've never doubted the Ukrainian's hearts, but do unfortunately doubt it's been an equal fight.

[Skjellyfetti]

There will be no invasion. Just a manufactured crisis so when there's no invasion, Biden can claim a victory.

Ukraine and Romania will invade Transnistria

Wasn't the Moskva that was sunk. Different ship.

We're in the final phase of this war. (In April)

"Numerous" NATO advisors holed up with Azov at a bioweapons facility in Mariupol

"High ranking" NATO advisors in Azovstal

[kalm]

There will be no invasion. Just a manufactured crisis so when there's no invasion, Biden can claim a victory.

Ukraine and Romania will invade Transnistria

Wasn't the Moskva that was sunk. Different ship.

We're in the final phase of this war. (In April)

"Numerous" NATO advisors holed up with Azov at a bioweapons facility in Mariupol

"High ranking" NATO advisors in Azovstal

[SeattleGriz]

There will be no invasion. Just a manufactured crisis so when there's no invasion, Biden can claim a victory.

Ukraine and Romania will invade Transnistria

Wasn't the Moskva that was sunk. Different ship.

We're in the final phase of this war. (In April)

"Numerous" NATO advisors holed up with Azov at a bioweapons facility in Mariupol

"High ranking" NATO advisors in Azovstal

Half the links don't work and the others I specifically said, "let's see if the prediction comes true" or "we'll see if he is correct". The Azov one I even said "I would chalk this up to bologna". Very Taylor Lorenz of you to take them out of context.

Far cry from Russia is losing, Putin has death squads after him, Russia is running out of missiles and artillery, Snake Island and Ghost of Kiev type stuff.

I can admit, it did take me a while to find people that didn't go out too far out on a limb, admitting they were speculating.

[houndawg]

Have any of your predictions in this thread come true?

They weren't my predictions, but not yet. The only one I have out there is that Russia was "restocking" and will invade soon. As to how aggressively, I have no idea, but I've been saying once the ground is frozen.

I've mostly been pointing out that Russia is not losing and providing solid proof for people who apparent

What you're doing is a bit of verbal jiu jitsu - deflecting from the strategic to the tactical. Which is of course understandable, and your only option since Russia has already lost in the Big Picture - there won't be a puppet government in Kyiv, Moscow is bogged down in a quagmire that they can't afford, with a military that is poorly trained, poorly equipped, performing embarrassingly against the Ukrainian military, and neck deep in atrocities against civilians.

All we have to do is spend them into oblivion, just like we did with the Soviet Union in 1989.

[kalm]

They weren't my predictions, but not yet. The only one I have out there is that Russia was "restocking" and will invade soon. As to how aggressively, I have no idea, but I've been saying once the ground is frozen.

I've mostly been pointing out that Russia is not losing and providing solid proof for people who apparent

What you're doing is a bit of verbal jiu jitsu - deflecting from the strategic to the tactical. Which is of course understandable, and your only option since Russia has already lost in the Big Picture - there won't be a puppet government in Kyiv, Moscow is bogged down in a quagmire that they can't afford, with a military that is poorly trained, poorly equipped, performing embarrassingly against the Ukrainian military, and neck deep in atrocities against civilians.

All we have to do is spend them into oblivion, just like we did with the Soviet Union in 1989.

[SeattleGriz]

They weren't my predictions, but not yet. The only one I have out there is that Russia was "restocking" and will invade soon. As to how aggressively, I have no idea, but I've been saying once the ground is frozen.

I've mostly been pointing out that Russia is not losing and providing solid proof for people who apparent

What you're doing is a bit of verbal jiu jitsu - deflecting from the strategic to the tactical. Which is of course understandable, and your only option since Russia has already lost in the Big Picture - there won't be a puppet government in Kyiv, Moscow is bogged down in a quagmire that they can't afford, with a military that is poorly trained, poorly equipped, performing embarrassingly against the Ukrainian military, and neck deep in atrocities against civilians.

All we have to do is spend them into oblivion, just like we did with the Soviet Union in 1989.

Do you think Europe is good with that? Keeping your house warm is pretty pricey over there right now.

[kalm]

What you're doing is a bit of verbal jiu jitsu - deflecting from the strategic to the tactical. Which is of course understandable, and your only option since Russia has already lost in the Big Picture - there won't be a puppet government in Kyiv, Moscow is bogged down in a quagmire that they can't afford, with a military that is poorly trained, poorly equipped, performing embarrassingly against the Ukrainian military, and neck deep in atrocities against civilians.

All we have to do is spend them into oblivion, just like we did with the Soviet Union in 1989.

Do you think Europe is good with that? Keeping your house warm is pretty pricey over there right now.

Freedom and Liberty are pricey.

[∞∞∞]

Do you think Europe is good with that? Keeping your house warm is pretty pricey over there right now.

What Europe does is up to them, but as an American, I want us to double our support if not more.

I would even vote for a temporary tax increase to support Ukraine.

[BDKJMU]

Do you think Europe is good with that? Keeping your house warm is pretty pricey over there right now.

What Europe does is up to them, but as an American, I want us to double our support if not more.

I would even vote for a temporary tax increase to support Ukraine.

Didn’t know you were such a huge fan of the US MIC.

Since we have no treaty with Ukraine, nor are they a major US trading partner, nor de we have a vital national security interest with Ukraine, I would like to see us end our support, and put those resources into securing our own border.

[UNI88]

What Europe does is up to them, but as an American, I want us to double our support if not more.

I would even vote for a temporary tax increase to support Ukraine.

Didn’t know you were such a huge fan of the US MIC.

Since we have no treaty with Ukraine, nor are they a major US trading partner, nor de we have a vital national security interest with Ukraine, I would like to see us end our support, and put those resources into securing our own border.

We might not have a treaty with Ukraine but I didn't we sign the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 guaranteeing Ukraine their security in exchange for giving up their nuclear weapons?

Ukraine also has strategic importance to the world due to it's location and food production. The invasion and potential Russian control of Ukraine will have implications beyond Russia and Europe.

[∞∞∞]

Part.of being a global superpower is exerting that power - when necessary - in order to spread our values, keep our influence, and maintain international order.

If you want the US to be isolated, that's fine, but understand we give up our sway across the world to China, Russia, Europe, etc.

And if you want the US to stay on top, you must acknowledge it comes with certain global responsibilities (including military and financial). IMO, for our own future security and economic well-being, it's better we protect Ukraine. It's a small investment in the grand scheme of our GDP/budget.

[UNI88]

Part.of being a global superpower is exerting that power - when necessary - in order to spread our values, keep our influence, and maintain international order.

If you want the US to be isolated, that's fine, but understand we give up our sway across the world to China, Russia, Europe, etc.

And if you want the US to stay on top, you must acknowledge it comes with certain global responsibilities (including military and financial). IMO, for our own future security and economic well-being, it's better we protect Ukraine. It's a small investment in the grand scheme of our GDP/budget.

Like their ctrl-left counterparts, MAGAts will bitch about anything the opposition does or doesn't do. They want the Biden Administration to stop supporting Ukraine and spend that money on the border or elsewhere but they'll be just as quick to blame Biden and Democrats if the world orders shifts as a result and China steps up and takes an even greater international leadership role.

Elected officials and their partisan supporters are just as focused on short-term results as modern day CEOs and corporations.

[SeattleGriz]

Do you think Europe is good with that? Keeping your house warm is pretty pricey over there right now.

What Europe does is up to them, but as an American, I want us to double our support if not more.

I would even vote for a temporary tax increase to support Ukraine.

Would you go over and and fight?

[∞∞∞]

What Europe does is up to them, but as an American, I want us to double our support if not more.

I would even vote for a temporary tax increase to support Ukraine.

Would you go over and and fight?

Fight? No. Physically support? Yes.

You have to remember I'm studying nursing. There's some sort of oath about not killing people...

[Skjellyfetti]

SD and Seattle are itching to sign up for Wagner in time for their final assault on Bakhmut.

[SeattleGriz]

Would you go over and and fight?

Fight? No. Physically support? Yes.

You have to remember I'm studying nursing. There's some sort of oath about not killing people...

You getting your BSN or RN? That would be excellent. I wanted to get mine years ago, but had too many family obligations and couldn't take the time away from work. Always felt you could go to pretty much any town in the US, or overseas and get a job right away. Great choice!

[HI54UNI]

[UNI88]

These are fair questions to ask.

Should we be assisting Ukraine fight off an illegal, fascist invasion? Despite what the Putin fellating fan bois argue, Yes.

How much we should spend and how much Europe should spend are fair questions to ask.

[kalm]

My congresswoman would vote to cut taxes and push for increasing military spending.

[HI54UNI]

My congresswoman would vote to cut taxes and push for increasing military spending.

There's a lot of congress critters that would do that.