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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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houndawg wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:29 pm
This is a fight that's been coming for a couple of decades now. Putin's been showing his ass and he's long overdue for a smackdown and a reminder of who is the superpower and who is the third world country that needs to recruit for its military in prisons. Now that we've seen the pitiful performance of their excuse for a military we might as well have it out now when we have the advantage. NATO could easily roll these clowns all the way back to the Russian borders, including Crimea, just with air power supporting Ukraines troops. Right now the Russians are dying by the hundreds every day in a town of little strategic value that barely exists anymore. Pretty slick move by Ukraine, if they decide to fall back the Russians will be left with command of nothing nothing but the rubble they created out of an unimportant backwater on which they wasted tons of ammo
Nope. Not saying Russia is the world's greatest, but they've easily proven that the US and NATO couldn't prepare in eight years, for a war they fomented.

Hell, NATO and the US are out of some basic supplies as Russia kept its industrial base intact and can manufacture at the rate it is expending. The US and NATO? Not so much, or Ukraine wouldn't be out of ammo.

Russia air defense (S400 and S500) is one of the best systems out there. Foreign aircraft would get shot down readily...kinda low key how Ukraine doesn't have any airpower left. Remember when you said I was crazy saying that months ago?

So wrong, so much. When are you going to take your lips off Bidens ass?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:33 pm
SeattleGriz wrote:
Nope. Not saying Russia is the world's greatest, but they've easily proven that the US and NATO couldn't prepare in eight years, for a war they fomented.

Hell, NATO and the US are out of some basic supplies as Russia kept its industrial base intact and can manufacture at the rate it is expending. The US and NATO? Not so much, or Ukraine wouldn't be out of ammo.

Russia air defense (S400 and S500) is one of the best systems out there. Foreign aircraft would get shot down readily...kinda low key how Ukraine doesn't have any airpower left. Remember when you said I was crazy saying that months ago?

So wrong, so much. When are you going to take your lips off Bidens ass?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:18 am Lastly, because I've said it before, still believe a Russian offensive is coming once the ground freezes. Heard it's been warmer than usual and ground might not freeze until February.
Curious whatever happened with this. Did the ground not freeze?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:51 pm
houndawg wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:29 pm


This is a fight that's been coming for a couple of decades now. Putin's been showing his ass and he's long overdue for a smackdown and a reminder of who is the superpower and who is the third world country that needs to recruit for its military in prisons. Now that we've seen the pitiful performance of their excuse for a military we might as well have it out now when we have the advantage. NATO could easily roll these clowns all the way back to the Russian borders, including Crimea, just with air power supporting Ukraines troops. Right now the Russians are dying by the hundreds every day in a town of little strategic value that barely exists anymore. Pretty slick move by Ukraine, if they decide to fall back the Russians will be left with command of nothing nothing but the rubble they created out of an unimportant backwater on which they wasted tons of ammo
Nope. Not saying Russia is the world's greatest, but they've easily proven that the US and NATO couldn't prepare in eight years, for a war they fomented.

Hell, NATO and the US are out of some basic supplies as Russia kept its industrial base intact and can manufacture at the rate it is expending. The US and NATO? Not so much, or Ukraine wouldn't be out of ammo.

Russia air defense (S400 and S500) is one of the best systems out there. Foreign aircraft would get shot down readily...kinda low key how Ukraine doesn't have any airpower left. Remember when you said I was crazy saying that months ago?

So wrong, so much. When are you going to take your lips off Bidens ass?
You do realize that UKR is not a NATO member and that most of this war has been fought by UKR using soviet old soviet equipment? Even the stuff they’ve been sent from NATO counties isn’t the latest?

Also…as a reminder…Russia attached UKR. You must have forgotten that.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:43 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:18 am Lastly, because I've said it before, still believe a Russian offensive is coming once the ground freezes. Heard it's been warmer than usual and ground might not freeze until February.
Curious whatever happened with this. Did the ground not freeze?
Didn't need it. The war of attrition is working just fine.

I did get suckered in to the big Russian offensive, although I am on record, once say Putin should just keep up this slow moving line. Says he values lives. International law vs rules based order.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:49 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:43 pm

Curious whatever happened with this. Did the ground not freeze?
Didn't need it. The war of attrition is working just fine.

I did get suckered in to the big Russian offensive, although I am on record, once say Putin should just keep up this slow moving line. Says he values lives. International law vs rules based order.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:22 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:51 pm

Nope. Not saying Russia is the world's greatest, but they've easily proven that the US and NATO couldn't prepare in eight years, for a war they fomented.

Hell, NATO and the US are out of some basic supplies as Russia kept its industrial base intact and can manufacture at the rate it is expending. The US and NATO? Not so much, or Ukraine wouldn't be out of ammo.

Russia air defense (S400 and S500) is one of the best systems out there. Foreign aircraft would get shot down readily...kinda low key how Ukraine doesn't have any airpower left. Remember when you said I was crazy saying that months ago?

So wrong, so much. When are you going to take your lips off Bidens ass?
You do realize that UKR is not a NATO member and that most of this war has been fought by UKR using soviet old soviet equipment? Even the stuff they’ve been sent from NATO counties isn’t the latest?

Also…as a reminder…Russia attached UKR. You must have forgotten that.
No. Ukraine massed on the border of Donbass, increased artillery fire and intimated an assault. Donbass asked for help and Russia provided. This wasn't Kosovo.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:50 am
kalm wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:22 pm

You do realize that UKR is not a NATO member and that most of this war has been fought by UKR using soviet old soviet equipment? Even the stuff they’ve been sent from NATO counties isn’t the latest?

Also…as a reminder…Russia attached UKR. You must have forgotten that.
No. Ukraine massed on the border of Donbass, increased artillery fire and intimated an assault. Donbass asked for help and Russia provided. This wasn't Kosovo.
So backing off on your claims of RUS military superiority vs. NATO to refocus on justifying the invasion of a sovereign country.

Smart.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:33 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:50 am

No. Ukraine massed on the border of Donbass, increased artillery fire and intimated an assault. Donbass asked for help and Russia provided. This wasn't Kosovo.
So backing off on your claims of RUS military superiority vs. NATO to refocus on justifying the invasion of a sovereign country.

Smart.
:rofl: I love how you make up claims that make no sense.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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Wheels are falling off. Zelensky buying Russian gas and pocketing the difference.

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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:53 am
kalm wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:33 am

So backing off on your claims of RUS military superiority vs. NATO to refocus on justifying the invasion of a sovereign country.

Smart.
:rofl: I love how you make up claims that make no sense.
It’s ok. Frustrated laughter is appropriate right now.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:43 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:18 am Lastly, because I've said it before, still believe a Russian offensive is coming once the ground freezes. Heard it's been warmer than usual and ground might not freeze until February.
Curious whatever happened with this. Did the ground not freeze?
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:49 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:43 pm

Curious whatever happened with this. Did the ground not freeze?
Didn't need it. The war of attrition is working just fine.

I did get suckered in to the big Russian offensive, although I am on record, once say Putin should just keep up this slow moving line. Says he values lives. International law vs rules based order.
...the line isn't moving. :coffee:
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:33 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:50 am

No. Ukraine massed on the border of Donbass, increased artillery fire and intimated an assault. Donbass asked for help and Russia provided. This wasn't Kosovo.
So backing off on your claims of RUS military superiority vs. NATO to refocus on justifying the invasion of a sovereign country.

Smart.
Dude trains Navy SEALS, of course he's smart. :coffee:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:56 pm
Silenoz wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:18 pm Notice that SeattleGriz says nothing about the leak's damning assessment of Russian capabilities or how compromised it's operation is by US infiltration. Guess that doesn't fit the narrative you've been selling yourself on since day one.
Lol! Dude, you just can't quite the narrative. Ukraine is on the verge of collapse and all you've got is Telegram channels. You've been woefully incorrect and now your stance is being exposed.
Remember that time you claimed all sorts of shit was gonna happen? And then literally none of it happened. Over and over again. But imagine being convinced that everyone else is wrong.

Good times. You should keep it up. Dig yourself deeper and deeper into the whack job abyss. What's your source again? Whackadoos MacGregor and Schreyer? Good job buddy. :lol:
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Silenoz wrote: Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:48 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 12:56 pm

Lol! Dude, you just can't quite the narrative. Ukraine is on the verge of collapse and all you've got is Telegram channels. You've been woefully incorrect and now your stance is being exposed.
Remember that time you claimed all sorts of shit was gonna happen? And then literally none of it happened. Over and over again. But imagine being convinced that everyone else is wrong.

Good times. You should keep it up. Dig yourself deeper and deeper into the whack job abyss. What's your source again? Whackadoos MacGregor and Schreyer? Good job buddy. :lol:
What is "all sorts of shit"? The one I've admitted to being wrong, was an offensive when the ground froze. Anyone who was paying attention can now see the offensive was not needed.
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I hear Tucker has the scoop on UKR’s imminent surrender.
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kalm wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:03 pm I hear Tucker has the scoop on UKR’s imminent surrender.
Think he's read them all yet?
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Remember. There are NO Nazis in Ukraine and they certainly don't support them.

https://ejpress.org/ejp-brief-kyiv-mayo ... laborator/
The City Council OF Kyiv, capital of Ukraine, wanted to name a street after Volodymyr Kubiyovych, a Nazi collaborator and SS official, but the city’s Mayor Vitali Klitschko intervened to prevent it.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:26 am Remember. There are NO Nazis in Ukraine and they certainly don't support them.

https://ejpress.org/ejp-brief-kyiv-mayo ... laborator/
The City Council OF Kyiv, capital of Ukraine, wanted to name a street after Volodymyr Kubiyovych, a Nazi collaborator and SS official, but the city’s Mayor Vitali Klitschko intervened to prevent it.
There are Nazis everywhere. This mentally ill guy would be considered a Nazi by many:

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:26 am Remember. There are NO Nazis in Ukraine and they certainly don't support them.

https://ejpress.org/ejp-brief-kyiv-mayo ... laborator/
The City Council OF Kyiv, capital of Ukraine, wanted to name a street after Volodymyr Kubiyovych, a Nazi collaborator and SS official, but the city’s Mayor Vitali Klitschko intervened to prevent it.
Holy cow, are we actually circling back to the Nazi excuse to invade and annex Ukraine? On the bright side, good to see that SG wasn't the leaker of the top secret documents when it was the guy up in Massachusetts. I somehow think SG was probably in that discord server group though. Probably even knows that Sarah Bils person. :rofl:
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:37 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:26 am Remember. There are NO Nazis in Ukraine and they certainly don't support them.

https://ejpress.org/ejp-brief-kyiv-mayo ... laborator/

Holy cow, are we actually circling back to the Nazi excuse to invade and annex Ukraine? On the bright side, good to see that SG wasn't the leaker of the top secret documents when it was the guy up in Massachusetts. I somehow think SG was probably in that discord server group though. Probably even knows that Sarah Bils person. :rofl:
Not circling back to say it was an excuse, but to point out the memory holing of the Nazis attacking the civilians in the Donbass wasn't made up. Ukraine and the US had a big part in getting their asses handed to themselves.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:18 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:37 am

Holy cow, are we actually circling back to the Nazi excuse to invade and annex Ukraine? On the bright side, good to see that SG wasn't the leaker of the top secret documents when it was the guy up in Massachusetts. I somehow think SG was probably in that discord server group though. Probably even knows that Sarah Bils person. :rofl:
Not circling back to say it was an excuse, but to point out the memory holing of the Nazis attacking the civilians in the Donbass wasn't made up. Ukraine and the US had a big part in getting their asses handed to themselves.
NOTHING justifies and invasion and annexation of territory of another sovereign. That's played a big part in Russia having their butts handed to them, along with what other body parts they've had to ship home for way too many unfortunates caught up in this Putin glory-trip. :coffee:
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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GannonFan wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:07 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:18 am

Not circling back to say it was an excuse, but to point out the memory holing of the Nazis attacking the civilians in the Donbass wasn't made up. Ukraine and the US had a big part in getting their asses handed to themselves.
NOTHING justifies and invasion and annexation of territory of another sovereign. That's played a big part in Russia having their butts handed to them, along with what other body parts they've had to ship home for way too many unfortunates caught up in this Putin glory-trip. :coffee:
According to the US, committed atrocities, which is what Ukraine was perpetrating on the Donbass and the local Roma population, qualifies.

The US is terrible at the geopolitical game and has been for years. If I remember correctly, even CID mentioned our diplomats are terrible compared to the rest of the World, especially Russia.

I simply want all the "friends of the family" hires to stop. If we're SO good at what we do geopolitically, then why do we have to keep going back to the "rules based order" (heads I win, tails you lose) instead of relying on international law?
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