When is it Vance's turn?

[Bobcat]

Liberal media is admitting Harris and Walz are liars. Shifty shady liars

That ran counter to Walz, whom Lieberman said was anxious and jittery, particularly at the beginning of the debate.

"With Tim Walz, he was all over the place. He was very nervous, and he also had body language signs of lying. His body language was discordant with what he was saying. It was like too much, it made you feel exhausted and scared," she said.

Lieberman said Walz fumbled his question about being in Tiananmen Square for the deadly protests in the spring of 1989. Walz previously said he was in Hong Kong during the protests, but Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets report that Walz actually did not travel to China until August of that year.

CBS News moderator Margaret Brennan asked Walz to explain the discrepancy. Walz initially tried to talk around the question but eventually admitted he "misspoke" after calling himself a "knucklehead at times."

"He was so defensive, he was just talking in circles and didn't want to admit that he had lied. If he had said that at the very beginning, it would have been more honest," said Lieberman.

[BDKJMU]

Going to take Tampon Tim AWOLZ awhile to recover from the beating Vance gave him last night..

From what I heard walz started slow but picked up steam. vance might have won but it was in the 51-55 to 45-49 range. No where near a beating except to the biased.

It was Densedawg who claimed Walz was going to mop the floor with Vance, which CLEARLY didn’t happen.

[BDKJMU]

JD Vance showed the old lush who was boss, the only thing Walz had was about 100 but Trumps

If Ganny or Ibanez tells me that vance whooped walz, I'll buy it. But I'm not buying it from a partisan MAGA yahoo. Sorry, not sorry.

Well Ibanez hasn’t been here to give his opinion in a long time.

[BDKJMU]

Walz was just like Kamala: ignored the moderators question, ignored their opponents question or response, and just went to their memorized talking points.

[Bobcat]

You wont hear from that fool densedawg for a week or so. He looks like a complete moron right now and we all know he wont face the fact he was dead ass wrong about the debate.

[GannonFan]

Well, very evident from last night is that Vance is extremely well practiced at this, as one would expect of someone who has done interview after interview for really several years now. Vance is very polished - speaks well, appears to have a good grasp of what he's talking about, and is able to communicate it fairly well. Walz, by comparison, certainly looked less polished, but that's to be expected of someone who really hasn't faced nearly as many interviews as Vance has faced. Walz performed fine, but certainly had shaky moments and that could be seen as being less prepped for something like this debate.

As for the content, eh, I thought both did relatively fine. They both are there to talk up their respective Presidential candidates. The fact that Vance could make Trump seem relatively normal, or as the CNN folks said "sane-washed", is a testament to his public speaking skills. He's pretty good at this thing. Trump's biggest weakness is his temperament and his past refusal to adhere to democratic norms (i.e. accept elections). There's only so much Vance could do to address that. Walz did fine defending Harris, but her deficiencies are defending being a key cog in an administration that has largely failed in terms of stewardship of the economy, immigration, and foreign affairs, and Walz only really did okay on the immigration part.

Hard to say that Vance didn't have the better of the debate. As to it's impact though, eh, it's a vice presidential debate, they almost never matter.

[BDKJMU]

Well, very evident from last night is that Vance is extremely well practiced at this, as one would expect of someone who has done interview after interview for really several years now. Vance is very polished - speaks well, appears to have a good grasp of what he's talking about, and is able to communicate it fairly well. Walz, by comparison, certainly looked less polished, but that's to be expected of someone who really hasn't faced nearly as many interviews as Vance has faced. Walz performed fine, but certainly had shaky moments and that could be seen as being less prepped for something like this debate.

As for the content, eh, I thought both did relatively fine. They both are there to talk up their respective Presidential candidates. The fact that Vance could make Trump seem relatively normal, or as the CNN folks said "sane-washed", is a testament to his public speaking skills. He's pretty good at this thing. Trump's biggest weakness is his temperament and his past refusal to adhere to democratic norms (i.e. accept elections). There's only so much Vance could do to address that. Walz did fine defending Harris, but her deficiencies are defending being a key cog in an administration that has largely failed in terms of stewardship of the economy, immigration, and foreign affairs, and Walz only really did okay on the immigration part.

Hard to say that Vance didn't have the better of the debate. As to its impact though, eh, it's a vice presidential debate, they almost never matter.

True. This one might matter a little more than past because of Trump’s age, and the multiple assassination attempts. And with it being this tight of an election, moving the needle a couple of tenths of a 1 percent could be a difference maker.

[BDKJMU]

Walz is clearly anti 1st Amendment. In August he said
“There’s no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech.”
https://reason.com/volokh/2024/08/08/vp ... democracy/
He is 100% WRONG.

Last night when the topic of govt censorship was brought up, Walz brought up limitations, yelling ‘Fire’ in a crowded theater but also so called misinformation and hate speech.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is in the same category as a threat of violence against someone- no guarantee of free speech.

There’s a guarantee of free speech when it comes to opinions, and what is/isn’t hate speech and is/isn’t ’misinformation’ is an opinion. Govt has no business trying to censor opinions. What the fed govt did during Covid, pressuring social media companies on censoring called ‘misinformation’ and with Hunter’s laptop, was clearly Orwellian anti 1A, something they had no business doing.

[UNI88]

Walz is clearly anti 1st Amendment. In August he said
“There’s no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech.”
https://reason.com/volokh/2024/08/08/vp ... democracy/
He is 100% WRONG.

Last night when the topic of govt censorship was brought up, Walz brought up limitations, yelling ‘Fire’ in a crowded theater but also so called misinformation and hate speech.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is in the same category as a threat of violence against someone- no guarantee of free speech.

There’s a guarantee of free speech when it comes to opinions, and what is/isn’t hate speech and is/isn’t ’misinformation’ is an opinion. Govt has no business trying to censor opinions. What the fed govt did during Covid, pressuring social media companies on censoring called ‘misinformation’ and with Hunter’s laptop, was clearly Orwellian anti 1A, something they had no business doing.

I agree but I don’t think trump is any better. He wants to punish those who speak out against him.

Also, pointing out inaccuracies (ie fact checking) isn’t censorship. The person was still able to express their “opinions”.

While free speech is an extremely important part of 1A it isn’t the only part. doneOLD and MAQA yahoos are weak as shit on freedom of religion, assembly and press.


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[BDKJMU]

[BDKJMU]

[BDKJMU]

CBS News Performs 100 Percent Incorrect Fact-Check on JD Vance and His Border Czar Comments at Debate
https://redstate.com/bradslager/2024/10/02/v-n2180066

Of course they did. Vance still won despite it being 3 on 1. During all the border talk Vance was the only 1 who used the correct term illegal alien when talking about illegal aliens/immigrants. The fact that the other 3 refused confirms they are left wing libs.

[BDKJMU]

Walz is clearly anti 1st Amendment. In August he said
“There’s no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech.”
https://reason.com/volokh/2024/08/08/vp ... democracy/
He is 100% WRONG.

Last night when the topic of govt censorship was brought up, Walz brought up limitations, yelling ‘Fire’ in a crowded theater but also so called misinformation and hate speech.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is in the same category as a threat of violence against someone- no guarantee of free speech.

There’s a guarantee of free speech when it comes to opinions, and what is/isn’t hate speech and is/isn’t ’misinformation’ is an opinion. Govt has no business trying to censor opinions. What the fed govt did during Covid, pressuring social media companies on censoring called ‘misinformation’ and with Hunter’s laptop, was clearly Orwellian anti 1A, something they had no business doing.

[Caribbean Hen]

Well, very evident from last night is that Vance is extremely well practiced at this, as one would expect of someone who has done interview after interview for really several years now. Vance is very polished - speaks well, appears to have a good grasp of what he's talking about, and is able to communicate it fairly well. Walz, by comparison, certainly looked less polished, but that's to be expected of someone who really hasn't faced nearly as many interviews as Vance has faced. Walz performed fine, but certainly had shaky moments and that could be seen as being less prepped for something like this debate.

As for the content, eh, I thought both did relatively fine. They both are there to talk up their respective Presidential candidates. The fact that Vance could make Trump seem relatively normal, or as the CNN folks said "sane-washed", is a testament to his public speaking skills. He's pretty good at this thing. Trump's biggest weakness is his temperament and his past refusal to adhere to democratic norms (i.e. accept elections). There's only so much Vance could do to address that. Walz did fine defending Harris, but her deficiencies are defending being a key cog in an administration that has largely failed in terms of stewardship of the economy, immigration, and foreign affairs, and Walz only really did okay on the immigration part.

Hard to say that Vance didn't have the better of the debate. As to it's impact though, eh, it's a vice presidential debate, they almost never matter.

This is correct

I’ve seen Vance practice up his demeanor and answers on several hostile interviews, his debate performance sounded just like his interviews with Bash and a few other lefty news outlets. Yes the mods were programmed lefties. The debate helped Vance a lot more than it did Walz, might of won a few votes.

[Gil Dobie]

He’s not wrong

Walz is a typical low life lush …. Owned by China because nobody in the military supports letting a city burn… he’s as suspicious as fuck and not to be trusted according To his own brother

Agreed. Stay at home moms and having grandparents playing an active roll in raising kids is ideal. It’s just not realistic culturally or economically. Vance and the tech bros views on both of these issues don’t realistically jive with what he’s suggesting here in modern America. Not to mention, most women aren’t in favor of being a trad wife.

My grandmother was our daycare. We helped with our grandson. He's a 4th grader reading at a 9th grade level, so no jokes from the peanut gallery.

[Gil Dobie]

Walz is clearly anti 1st Amendment. In August he said
“There’s no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech.”
https://reason.com/volokh/2024/08/08/vp ... democracy/
He is 100% WRONG.

Last night when the topic of govt censorship was brought up, Walz brought up limitations, yelling ‘Fire’ in a crowded theater but also so called misinformation and hate speech.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is in the same category as a threat of violence against someone- no guarantee of free speech.

There’s a guarantee of free speech when it comes to opinions, and what is/isn’t hate speech and is/isn’t ’misinformation’ is an opinion. Govt has no business trying to censor opinions. What the fed govt did during Covid, pressuring social media companies on censoring called ‘misinformation’ and with Hunter’s laptop, was clearly Orwellian anti 1A, something they had no business doing.

And Walz wanted people to report covid distancing violations by their neighbors to the government, why would we he not do the same for hate speech. Generating a nation of Karen's.

[Caribbean Hen]

Walz is clearly anti 1st Amendment. In August he said
“There’s no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech.”
https://reason.com/volokh/2024/08/08/vp ... democracy/
He is 100% WRONG.

Last night when the topic of govt censorship was brought up, Walz brought up limitations, yelling ‘Fire’ in a crowded theater but also so called misinformation and hate speech.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is in the same category as a threat of violence against someone- no guarantee of free speech.

There’s a guarantee of free speech when it comes to opinions, and what is/isn’t hate speech and is/isn’t ’misinformation’ is an opinion. Govt has no business trying to censor opinions. What the fed govt did during Covid, pressuring social media companies on censoring called ‘misinformation’ and with Hunter’s laptop, was clearly Orwellian anti 1A, something they had no business doing.

And Walz wanted people to report covid distancing violations by their neighbors to the government, why would we he not do the same for hate speech. Generating a nation of Karen's.

Gil, as your from Minnesota you really seem to have the true story on Walz.... keep bringing it. Joey Rotten and his evils, who represented a small state like Delaware for decades, seemed to slip through the cracks with way too many voters who didn't really know much about his pathetic background and that he was wrong about everything for 40 years...

[Bobcat]

My dad is from Minnesota left years ago but his bat shit crazy left wing sister still lives there. Shes an absolutely insane Democrat.

She is not voting for Harris and Walz. She cant stand Walz. Personally I think she deserves Tiananmen Tampon Tim

[Caribbean Hen]

My dad is from Minnesota left years ago but his bat shit crazy left wing sister still lives there. Shes an absolutely insane Democrat.

She is not voting for Harris and Walz. She cant stand Walz. Personally I think she deserves Tiananmen Tampon Tim

we all have black sheep in the family

[BDKJMU]

ABC headline 9/29 before the debate:

Why Tuesday's vice presidential debate could matter more than history suggests

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/tue ... -114325906

ABC headline 10/1 after the debate:

Why VP debates aren't all that important

https://abcnews.go.com/538/vp-debates-a ... =114359816

[houndawg]

In Fairbanks, Alaska, it is tradition to bet on when the Tanana River will melt in the spring - for betting purposes it is when the bell rings. A tripod with a bell sits on the ice and when the river thaws enough the tripod tips over and the bell rings and falls in the river. Bets are placed on the date/time of the thaw. So: when does the Trump bell of blame ring for Vance?.

I'm thinking not long after Walz mops the floor with him in their VP debate but it could be an earlier - trump is going to need divert attention from his own pitiful performance next week.

Things start getting fun right about now....(funk soul brother)

Going to take Tampon Tim AWOLZ awhile to recover from the beating Vance gave him last night..

...he was maybe eking out a split decision by presenting a less smug version of himself, when he walked into the haymaker and since independents went big for Walz, even the split-decision went against young Jim .


So, BD, who won the election in 2020?

[Gil Dobie]

SNL took advantage of the school shooter mention by Walz.

[houndawg]

You wont hear from that fool densedawg for a week or so. He looks like a complete moron right now and we all know he wont face the fact he was dead ass wrong about the debate.

....in your dreams, Bobcunt.

Walz won independents by 2 to 1 and scored a KO with the only question anyone is talking about: who won the election in 2020?

Thats where Vances latest version of himself came apart. Admitting he would have done what Pence wouldn't do and put trump ahead of the Constitution .....

[houndawg]

My dad is from Minnesota left years ago but his bat shit crazy left wing sister still lives there. Shes an absolutely insane Democrat.

She is not voting for Harris and Walz. She cant stand Walz. Personally I think she deserves Tiananmen Tampon Tim

....he's not your dad, Bobette...somebody had it in for him.

[BDKJMU]

You wont hear from that fool densedawg for a week or so. He looks like a complete moron right now and we all know he wont face the fact he was dead ass wrong about the debate.

....in your dreams, Bobcunt.

Walz won independents by 2 to 1 and scored a KO with the only question anyone is talking about: who won the election in 2020?

Thats where Vances latest version of himself came apart. Admitting he would have done what Pence wouldn't do and put trump ahead of the Constitution .....

Link?