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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:31 am
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:19 pm
Oh well I guess we won’t be funding transgender operas in Columbia anymore.

Lets fight on this hill all day libs. :nod:
There’s strategy and politics and then there’s morality and caring for humanity and the world.

Not to mention, we (along with the rest of western powers) have extracted immense wealth and forged a high standard of living through imperialism.

Giving back is an obligation we need to meet. It benefits us as well.

You’re not the kind of person who fails to give a little back to your own community are ya, BDK?
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There is ZERO room for emotion in spending tax payer money. US tax dollars should be spent in the USA until every country that has got money from us has paid us back
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Bobcat wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:37 am There is ZERO room for emotion in spending tax payer money. US tax dollars should be spent in the USA until every country that has got money from us has paid us back
Anger and resentment are emotion driven.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:31 am
kalm wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:19 pm
Oh well I guess we won’t be funding transgender operas in Columbia anymore.

Lets fight on this hill all day libs. :nod:
Yeah…let’s make light of suffering and unnecessary deaths.

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Aka nihilism.

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Re: USAID

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 5:32 pm Politico received $44,000 (not $38 million) from USAID.

There is a whole lot of unsubstantiated bullsh!t in the information being spread about USAID payments.
Trump claims it was $8 billion and went to supporting left wing advocates….or something like that.

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7.2 Billion a year to ship in illegals
40 Billion for electric charging stations (most were not even built)

Its a good thing this isn't that much money, don't lose focus either. You should be mad at Elon for telling you about the waste.

Be reasonable, you Nazis

Iran Contra on steroids and we haven't even got to the medical stuff yet. Medicaid fraud is going to make people lose their minds.

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kalm wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:35 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:31 am

Oh well I guess we won’t be funding transgender operas in Columbia anymore.

Lets fight on this hill all day libs. :nod:
There’s strategy and politics and then there’s morality and caring for humanity and the world.

Not to mention, we (along with the rest of western powers) have extracted immense wealth and forged a high standard of living through imperialism.

Giving back is an obligation we need to meet. It benefits us as well.

You’re not the kind of person who fails to give a little back to your own community are ya, BDK?
No its not and no WE don’t.

No I’m not. I believe in taking care of your own 1st. America First. Outside the US borders I don’t GAF.
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kalm wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:40 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:31 am

Oh well I guess we won’t be funding transgender operas in Columbia anymore.

Lets fight on this hill all day libs. :nod:
Yeah…let’s make light of suffering and unnecessary deaths.

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Tragic, but not our (the US’s) problem.

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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:24 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:35 am

There’s strategy and politics and then there’s morality and caring for humanity and the world.

Not to mention, we (along with the rest of western powers) have extracted immense wealth and forged a high standard of living through imperialism.

Giving back is an obligation we need to meet. It benefits us as well.

You’re not the kind of person who fails to give a little back to your own community are ya, BDK?
No its not and no WE don’t.

No I’m not. I believe in taking care of your own 1st. America First. Outside the US borders I don’t GAF.
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Bobcat wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:54 am 7.2 Billion a year to ship in illegals
40 Billion for electric charging stations (most were not even built)

Its a good thing this isn't that much money, don't lose focus either. You should be mad at Elon for telling you about the waste.

Be reasonable, you Nazis

Iran Contra on steroids and we haven't even got to the medical stuff yet. Medicaid fraud is going to make people lose their minds.

Trump is going to need a bigger wrecking ball
I’m all for rooting out fraud, waste and abuse. I did that for a few years in my consulting days to some success. Elon isn’t the right tool or person. This is Congress’ job, not Elons, and they’re all too glad to let him fuck around and make mistakes. They’ve handed over their authority and it’s going to be difficult to get it back. It’ll require them to have the balls to stand up to Trump and the loudmouths in the GOP (which they won’t because they’re all feckless cowards.)

They’re also going about it the wrong way and are scaring people. They need to be systematically reviewing and allowing the evidence to speak for itself. Otherwise, an already leery media and public won’t believe them, especially when they lie about stupid shit like $50M for condoms for Hamas.
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People should be scared
Congress is not the "right people" to do this. They DID THIS

Transparency and wrecking balls
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Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm
Bobcat wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:54 am 7.2 Billion a year to ship in illegals
40 Billion for electric charging stations (most were not even built)

Its a good thing this isn't that much money, don't lose focus either. You should be mad at Elon for telling you about the waste.

Be reasonable, you Nazis

Iran Contra on steroids and we haven't even got to the medical stuff yet. Medicaid fraud is going to make people lose their minds.

Trump is going to need a bigger wrecking ball
I’m all for rooting out fraud, waste and abuse. I did that for a few years in my consulting days to some success. Elon isn’t the right tool or person. This is Congress’ job, not Elons, and they’re all too glad to let him fuck around and make mistakes. They’ve handed over their authority and it’s going to be difficult to get it back. It’ll require them to have the balls to stand up to Trump and the loudmouths in the GOP (which they won’t because they’re all feckless cowards.)

They’re also going about it the wrong way and are scaring people. They need to be systematically reviewing and allowing the evidence to speak for itself. Otherwise, an already leery media and public won’t believe them, especially when they lie about stupid shit like $50M for condoms for Hamas.
Yet Congress WON’T do it. They haven’t for the last 60 years, and they won’t until the bubble bursts within the next several decades.

People need to be scared. We are creeping towards a fiscal time bomb, and too many people are blissfully ignorant of that.
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"I'm an intellectual, I think the prisoners should be in charge of managing prisons"

Is this new guy Tim Walz kid? Its embarrassing
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:42 pm I’m all for rooting out fraud, waste and abuse. I did that for a few years in my consulting days to some success. Elon isn’t the right tool or person. This is Congress’ job, not Elons, and they’re all too glad to let him fuck around and make mistakes. They’ve handed over their authority and it’s going to be difficult to get it back. It’ll require them to have the balls to stand up to Trump and the loudmouths in the GOP (which they won’t because they’re all feckless cowards.)

They’re also going about it the wrong way and are scaring people. They need to be systematically reviewing and allowing the evidence to speak for itself. Otherwise, an already leery media and public won’t believe them, especially when they lie about stupid shit like $50M for condoms for Hamas.
Yet Congress WON’T do it. They haven’t for the last 60 years, and they won’t until the bubble bursts within the next several decades.

People need to be scared. We are creeping towards a fiscal time bomb, and too many people are blissfully ignorant of that.
Congress is responsible for the purse. Don’t like it then change the laws or do what you tell gun control advocates to do when they can’t change the 2nd amendment.


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UNI88 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:14 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Yet Congress WON’T do it. They haven’t for the last 60 years, and they won’t until the bubble bursts within the next several decades.

People need to be scared. We are creeping towards a fiscal time bomb, and too many people are blissfully ignorant of that.
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Let him think hes right, the squirming is fun to watch
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260 million funneled to Soros aligned entities

Let me know when you give up on your "not a lot of money" thingy
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BobQat wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:20 pm 260 million funneled to Soros aligned entities

Let me know when you give up on your "not a lot of money" thingy
WTF are you talking about? Are you spinning my words or are you too dense to understand them?

I stated: "DId Politico take shit tons of money from USAID despite MAQA yahoo misinformation to the contrary?" USAID paid Politico $44,000. Is that a lot of money out of USAID's budget? No it isn't.

I saw that marge also paid Politico thousands. Why aren't you harping about that?
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:47 pm
BobQat wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:20 pm 260 million funneled to Soros aligned entities

Let me know when you give up on your "not a lot of money" thingy
WTF are you talking about? Are you spinning my words or are you too dense to understand them?

I stated: "DId Politico take shit tons of money from USAID despite MAQA yahoo misinformation to the contrary?" USAID paid Politico $44,000. Is that a lot of money out of USAID's budget? No it isn't.

I saw that marge also paid Politico thousands. Why aren't you harping about that?
Wow. What exactly do you have against cutting waste.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:24 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:35 am

There’s strategy and politics and then there’s morality and caring for humanity and the world.

Not to mention, we (along with the rest of western powers) have extracted immense wealth and forged a high standard of living through imperialism.

Giving back is an obligation we need to meet. It benefits us as well.

You’re not the kind of person who fails to give a little back to your own community are ya, BDK?
No its not and no WE don’t.

No I’m not. I believe in taking care of your own 1st. America First. Outside the US borders I don’t GAF.
Of course you should take care of those closest to you first. And that starts with yourself. But there’s no reason as a nation we can’t do both.

Suffering, kindness, and doing the right thing transcend borders. Not to mention geopolitics, energy resources, disease are inescapable (unless you’re North Korea).

Helping others is vital for us social primates. Most of us learn it at a very young age. Cooperation and support are giant reasons for our success as a species.

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As much as I don't want to touch this one, JD Vance stepped inside the "love God and love others" conversation, so I felt compelled to respond.

Vance’s statement might sound like a Christian concept, but it’s actually the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus command us to prioritize love based on proximity, nationality, or citizenship. In fact, He repeatedly destroys that kind of thinking.

In Luke 10, when a lawyer tries to justify who he’s required to love, Jesus responds with the Good Samaritan—a story where the hero is the very outsider Jewish society despised. The point? Love isn’t about who’s closest or most familiar—it’s about who needs it.

In Matthew 5-7, Jesus obliterates tribalism. “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Matt. 5:44). No caveats. No hierarchy.

In Luke 4, Jesus stands in His hometown synagogue and reminds them that God has always shown grace to outsiders—and they try to throw Him off a cliff for it.

Vance’s “Christian concept” isn’t Christian—it’s a survivalist model. It’s what we were taught in disaster relief: start with family, then widen your circles outward. That’s practical for triage, but it’s not biblical love. Jesus doesn’t command us to rank our compassion. He commands us to love without restriction.

This isn’t a theological mistake by JD—it’s gaslighting and politically distorting scripture and the heart of Jesus. Christians are now being told that Jesus’ radical, all-encompassing love is actually a misinterpretation, and that the real Christian way is to love selectively, starting with your own tribe. That’s not the Gospel—that’s nationalism wearing a cross like a fashion accessory.

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kalm wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:07 pm
As much as I don't want to touch this one, JD Vance stepped inside the "love God and love others" conversation, so I felt compelled to respond.

Vance’s statement might sound like a Christian concept, but it’s actually the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. Nowhere in Scripture does Jesus command us to prioritize love based on proximity, nationality, or citizenship. In fact, He repeatedly destroys that kind of thinking.

In Luke 10, when a lawyer tries to justify who he’s required to love, Jesus responds with the Good Samaritan—a story where the hero is the very outsider Jewish society despised. The point? Love isn’t about who’s closest or most familiar—it’s about who needs it.

In Matthew 5-7, Jesus obliterates tribalism. “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Matt. 5:44). No caveats. No hierarchy.

In Luke 4, Jesus stands in His hometown synagogue and reminds them that God has always shown grace to outsiders—and they try to throw Him off a cliff for it.

Vance’s “Christian concept” isn’t Christian—it’s a survivalist model. It’s what we were taught in disaster relief: start with family, then widen your circles outward. That’s practical for triage, but it’s not biblical love. Jesus doesn’t command us to rank our compassion. He commands us to love without restriction.

This isn’t a theological mistake by JD—it’s gaslighting and politically distorting scripture and the heart of Jesus. Christians are now being told that Jesus’ radical, all-encompassing love is actually a misinterpretation, and that the real Christian way is to love selectively, starting with your own tribe. That’s not the Gospel—that’s nationalism wearing a cross like a fashion accessory.

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:23 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:07 pm
Stop. Judging. Christians

Your uninformed moralizing has been old for years and needs to stop but there is absolutely nothing wrong with MAQA yahoos moralizing and judging you, me or anyone else they disagree with.

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