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UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:18 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:12 pm
Wrong, because again, you can’t see there’s no comparison between the 2 situations.
You're the one who stated that "you should vote the will of your constituents". trump's constituents didn't want him to pardon the January 6 criminals and they didn't want him to rename the Gulf of Mexico.

Everything else is you twisting yourself into logical pretzels to attempt to explain why your statement applies to mcconnell but not trump. We could call it the but trump exemption. :D
And you still can’t grasp that they are 2 completely different situations. Those are polls (not concrete, could be WAY off as I laid out, they’re among ‘adults’ not ‘voters’) completely different than actual election outcomes.

-Trump never ‘Took Back the Panama Canal’, so irrelevant.
-J6 Pardons: A majority of the people who voted for Trump were for (he said he was going to do them during the campaign).
-Renaming of the Gulf of America: Same.

But it really doesn’t matter because there’s no comparison to a senator from a +30 state not backing multiple of his party’s nominees versus a presidents taking actions he pledged to take during the campaign and that a majority of his voters backed..

But keep trying with your
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To make a comparison between the 2. :thumb:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:50 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:18 pm
You're the one who stated that "you should vote the will of your constituents". trump's constituents didn't want him to pardon the January 6 criminals and they didn't want him to rename the Gulf of Mexico.

Everything else is you twisting yourself into logical pretzels to attempt to explain why your statement applies to mcconnell but not trump. We could call it the but trump exemption. :D
And you still can’t grasp that they are 2 completely different situations. Those are polls (not concrete, could be WAY off as I laid out, they’re among ‘adults’ not ‘voters’) completely different than actual election outcomes.

-Trump never ‘Took Back the Panama Canal’, so irrelevant.
-J6 Pardons: A majority of the people who voted for Trump were for (he said he was going to do them during the campaign).
-Renaming of the Gulf of America: Same.

But it really doesn’t matter because there’s no comparison to a senator from a +30 state not backing multiple of his party’s nominees versus a presidents taking actions he pledged to take during the campaign and that a majority of his voters backed..

But keep trying with your
To make a comparison between the 2. :thumb:
You stated '"you should vote the will of your constituents" not "you should vote the will of your constituents based on votes in elections".

You didn't start attempting to refine your statement to exclude trump until you were called on your double standard.

It's pretty clear the American people, voters included, didn't support pardoning the January 6 criminals and didn't want the government to waste time and resources renaming the Gulf of Mexico (where was doge when this was going on? It's a great example of government waste and misplaced priorities). trump went against the will of his constituents to do what he thought was right. mcconnell should be able to do the same.


It can also be reasonably argued that voting against a vaccine denier like rfk jr is in the best long-term interests of mccconnell's constituents. Should he blindly vote for what his constituents want or should he use his judgement and vote for what he believes to be in their best interests? Are politicians elected to vote for/sign exactly what their constituents want or to vote for/sign what they believe is in their best interests?
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:06 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:50 pm
And you still can’t grasp that they are 2 completely different situations. Those are polls (not concrete, could be WAY off as I laid out, they’re among ‘adults’ not ‘voters’) completely different than actual election outcomes.

-Trump never ‘Took Back the Panama Canal’, so irrelevant.
-J6 Pardons: A majority of the people who voted for Trump were for (he said he was going to do them during the campaign).
-Renaming of the Gulf of America: Same.

But it really doesn’t matter because there’s no comparison to a senator from a +30 state not backing multiple of his party’s nominees versus a presidents taking actions he pledged to take during the campaign and that a majority of his voters backed..

But keep trying with your
To make a comparison between the 2. :thumb:
You stated '"you should vote the will of your constituents" not "you should vote the will of your constituents based on votes in elections".

You didn't start attempting to refine your statement to exclude trump until you were called on your double standard.

It's pretty clear the American people, voters included, didn't support pardoning the January 6 criminals and didn't want the government to waste time and resources renaming the Gulf of Mexico (where was doge when this was going on? It's a great example of government waste and misplaced priorities). trump went against the will of his constituents to do what he thought was right. mcconnell should be able to do the same.
January 6th participants did there time and pardons were fine given criminals are allowed to rule the streets in our major cities and not do any time
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:06 pm
You stated '"you should vote the will of your constituents" not "you should vote the will of your constituents based on votes in elections".

You didn't start attempting to refine your statement to exclude trump until you were called on your double standard.

It's pretty clear the American people, voters included, didn't support pardoning the January 6 criminals and didn't want the government to waste time and resources renaming the Gulf of Mexico (where was doge when this was going on? It's a great example of government waste and misplaced priorities). trump went against the will of his constituents to do what he thought was right. mcconnell should be able to do the same.


It can also be reasonably argued that voting against a vaccine denier like rfk jr is in the best long-term interests of mccconnell's constituents. Should he blindly vote for what his constituents want or should he use his judgement and vote for what he believes to be in their best interests? Are politicians elected to vote for/sign exactly what their constituents want or to vote for/sign what they believe is in their best interests?
January 6th participants did there time and pardons were fine given criminals are allowed to rule the streets in our major cities and not do any time
participants ... like they took a survey or went on a field trip rather than violently stormed the Capitol building and attempted to disrupt the Constitutional transfer of power. Talk about attempting to whitewash history ... :rofl:
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:13 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:11 pm

January 6th participants did there time and pardons were fine given criminals are allowed to rule the streets in our major cities and not do any time
participants ... like they took a survey or went on a field trip rather than violently stormed the Capitol building and attempted to disrupt the Constitutional transfer of power. Talk about attempting to whitewash history ... :rofl:
Nobody made a real effort to stop them
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:06 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:50 pm
And you still can’t grasp that they are 2 completely different situations. Those are polls (not concrete, could be WAY off as I laid out, they’re among ‘adults’ not ‘voters’) completely different than actual election outcomes.

-Trump never ‘Took Back the Panama Canal’, so irrelevant.
-J6 Pardons: A majority of the people who voted for Trump were for (he said he was going to do them during the campaign).
-Renaming of the Gulf of America: Same.

But it really doesn’t matter because there’s no comparison to a senator from a +30 state not backing multiple of his party’s nominees versus a presidents taking actions he pledged to take during the campaign and that a majority of his voters backed..

But keep trying with your
To make a comparison between the 2. :thumb:
You stated '"you should vote the will of your constituents" not "you should vote the will of your constituents based on votes in elections".

You didn't start attempting to refine your statement to exclude trump until you were called on your double standard.

It's pretty clear the American people, voters included, didn't support pardoning the January 6 criminals and didn't want the government to waste time and resources renaming the Gulf of Mexico (where was doge when this was going on? It's a great example of government waste and misplaced priorities). trump went against the will of his constituents to do what he thought was right. mcconnell should be able to do the same.


It can also be reasonably argued that voting against a vaccine denier like rfk jr is in the best long-term interests of mccconnell's constituents. Should he blindly vote for what his constituents want or should he use his judgement and vote for what he believes to be in their best interests? Are politicians elected to vote for/sign exactly what their constituents want or to vote for/sign what they believe is in their best interests?
You are the one who brought up the irrelevant comparison between the 2 situations. If you can’t see there’s no comparison between a senator from a 30+ state not voting for his party’s nominees (3 so far, not just JFK Jr whom you’re focused on) and a POTUS doing what he campaigned on doing, that a majority that voted for him wanted done, then you are beyond help.
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Only 2nd nominee to be confirmed on 100% party line vote
(other was Dir of OMB: Russell Vought, 53-47). All 51 conks present voted for, all 46 donks present voted against. 4 senators (2 conks and 2 donks) missed the vote.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 4:32 am Tracker
1. Sec of State: Marco Rubio, CONFIRMED 99-0 on 1/20.
2. Dir of CIA: John Ratcliffe, CONFIRMED 74-25 on 1/23.
3.Sec of Defense: Pete Hegseth, CONFIRMED 51-50 1/24
4. Sec of DHS: Kristi Noem, CONFIRMED 59-34 on 1/25.
5.Sec of Treasury: Scott Bessent, CONFIRMED 68-29 1/27
6.Sec of Transportati Sean Duffy, CONFIRMED 77-22 1/28
7. Head of EPA: Lee Zeldin, CONFIRMED 56-42 on 1/29.
8.Sec of Interior: Doug Burghum, CONFIRMED 79-18 1/30
9. Sec of Energy: Chris Wright, CONFIRMED 59-38 on 2/3
10. Attny Gen: Pam Bondi, CONFIRMED 54-46 on 2/4.
11. Doug Collins, Sec of VA, CONFIRMED 77-23 on 2/4.
12. Sec of HUD: Scott Turner, CONFIRMED 55-44 on 2/5.
13. Dir of OMB: Russell Vought, CONFIRMED 53-47 on 2/6
14.Dir Nat Intel: Tulsi Gabbard CONFIRMED 52-48 2/13
15. Sec of HHS: RFK Jr CONFIRMED 52-48 on 2/13.
16.Sec of Ag: Brooke Rollins, CONFIRMED 72-28 on 2/13.
17. Sec of Commerce: Howard Lutnick, CONFIRMED 51-46 on 2/18.

Still to be confirmed:
1. Sec of Labor: Lori Chavez DeRemer
2. Sec of Education: Linda McMahon
3. US Trade Rep: Jamieson Greer
4. US Ambassador to UN: Elise Stefanik
5. Kelly Loefflet: Administrator of Small Business Association
*6. FBI Director Kash Patel (technically not cabinet level).

Failed to confirm
NONE
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When is elon up for confirmation?
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Musk doesn't work for the government why would be need to be confirmed?

Is this just another Russian dossier, Constitutional crisis, Hitler Thingy? Don't answer we already have ignored you and know the truth.
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The White House says Elon Musk is a "special government employee." Here's what that means.
Billionaire Elon Musk is categorized as a "special government employee" through his work with the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, a cost-cutting initiative created by President Trump to find ways to trim federal spending.

Musk's employee status was confirmed by White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt on Monday, although she added that she wasn't sure whether the Tesla CEO has gained security clearance.
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They are lying he is not under contract and is doing this for free.

Wait!

He is probably a Russian agent!


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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:54 am The White House says Elon Musk is a "special government employee." Here's what that means.
Billionaire Elon Musk is categorized as a "special government employee" through his work with the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, a cost-cutting initiative created by President Trump to find ways to trim federal spending.

Musk's employee status was confirmed by White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt on Monday, although she added that she wasn't sure whether the Tesla CEO has gained security clearance.
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Confirmed 52-46. 2 Senators (1 conk & 1 donk) absent.
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I was responding to BobQat's FAKE NEWS/lie that "Musk doesn't work for the government why would be need to be confirmed?"

musk and doge have been given or are attempting to gain access to a lot of sensitive information. It is fair to ask:
- Has he been confirmed by the Senate?
- Has he sworn an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America?
- Has he signed an NDA about the data?
- Has there even been a background check?
- Has he disclosed potential conflicts of interest?
- Is he stepping back if there is a potential conflict of interest?
- If no to any of these, why not?
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The only people that care about Musk having access to sensitive information are the corrupt people that have something to hide. They are the same people that don't want voter ID. They are scared of what Musks team is going to find.

People that don't support that should be in prison
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:12 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:31 pm
I was responding to BobQat's FAKE NEWS/lie that "Musk doesn't work for the government why would be need to be confirmed?"

musk and doge have been given or are attempting to gain access to a lot of sensitive information. It is fair to ask:
- Has he been confirmed by the Senate?
- Has he sworn an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America?
- Has he signed an NDA about the data?
- Has there even been a background check?
- Has he disclosed potential conflicts of interest?
- Is he stepping back if there is a potential conflict of interest?
- If no to any of these, why not?
Because politicians on both sides have failed miserably and would only continue to do so.

If people knew what a nightmare scenario we will face if we don't keep the debt below 35 trillion they wouldn't need to ask me why I'm on school strike".

"This debt crisis we are facing is above all an emergency and not just any emergency. This is the biggest crisis humanity has ever faced".

:lol:

We need a Greta for debt
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:10 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:12 pm
I was responding to BobQat's FAKE NEWS/lie that "Musk doesn't work for the government why would be need to be confirmed?"

musk and doge have been given or are attempting to gain access to a lot of sensitive information. It is fair to ask:
- Has he been confirmed by the Senate?
- Has he sworn an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America?
- Has he signed an NDA about the data?
- Has there even been a background check?
- Has he disclosed potential conflicts of interest?
- Is he stepping back if there is a potential conflict of interest?
- If no to any of these, why not?
Because politicians on both sides have failed miserably and would only continue to do so.

If people knew what a nightmare scenario we will face if we don't keep the debt below 35 trillion they wouldn't need to ask me why I'm on school strike".

"This debt crisis we are facing is above all an emergency and not just any emergency. This is the biggest crisis humanity has ever faced".

:lol:

We need a Greta for debt
Then take every penny doge saves and use it to pay down our national debt. NO TAX CUTS! I'm on board with that. Are you?

musk still needs to:
- go through background checks
- be confirmed by the Senate
- swear an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America
- sign an NDA about the data
- disclose and divest potential conflicts of interest
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:21 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:10 am

Because politicians on both sides have failed miserably and would only continue to do so.

If people knew what a nightmare scenario we will face if we don't keep the debt below 35 trillion they wouldn't need to ask me why I'm on school strike".

"This debt crisis we are facing is above all an emergency and not just any emergency. This is the biggest crisis humanity has ever faced".

:lol:

We need a Greta for debt
Then take every penny doge saves and use it to pay down our national debt. NO TAX CUTS! I'm on board with that. Are you?

musk still needs to:
-go through background checks
- be confirmed by the Senate

- swear an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America
- sign an NDA about the data
- disclose and divest potential conflicts of interest
Already done. You don’t get a TSC without background checks.
No he doesn’t. Its not position that requires Senate confirmation.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:59 am
UNI88 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:21 am
Then take every penny doge saves and use it to pay down our national debt. NO TAX CUTS! I'm on board with that. Are you?

musk still needs to:
-go through background checks
- be confirmed by the Senate

- swear an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America
- sign an NDA about the data
- disclose and divest potential conflicts of interest
Already done. You don’t get a TSC without background checks.
No he doesn’t. Its not position that requires Senate confirmation.
I know he has some high level security clearance. With the amount and type of data that he and his team are attempting to access it should be the same level of background checks and clearance as the head of the FBI or CIA.

That's your opinion. My opinion is that his position is new so there is no precedent. With the amount of authority that doge has, the head of doge should absolutely be confirmed by the Senate.

Thoughts on taking every penny doge saved and using to to pay down our national debt?
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No, you dont get to care about our national debt now. Thats not how this works
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