Israel Strikes Iran

[BDKJMU]

Here we go..

[BDKJMU]

Dayum.

[Gil Dobie]

CNN pedaling fear, FOX discussing logistics and support for Israel.

[Bobcat]

Netanyahu is one of the top 5 greatest leaders of a country in the last 500 years.

I wish the USA had a guy like that, all we have are rich slimeball politicians that never accomplished anything in life except to get rich and steal from the USA as a member of congress. Then we have Trump who is as close as we will ever get. 99% never served in the military unlike Netanyahu.

Israel needs to strike Iran 3 more times and go heavy on infrastructure, and oil targets. Cut Irans money off by taking out oil.

Netanyahu is doing the world another favor taking out these guys

[GannonFan]

Always interesting how this plays out. I'm not sure Israel can really allow Iran to have nuclear weapons. If Iran did have nuclear weapons, and could deploy them against Israel, would the rest of the world do anything to stop it or punish Iran afterwards? A lot of the Middle East would be fine with Isreal wiped off the map (and probably fine if the Palestinians are collateral damage). The US could retaliate, but I'm not sure we would. Probably just continue the sanctions for another few decades. And Europe would do what they do best - sit on the sidelines and do very little. The rest of the Middle East probably wouldn't care for a nuclear Iran, but not quite the existential threat to them that Iran would represent to Israel.

[Baldy]

Always interesting how this plays out. I'm not sure Israel can really allow Iran to have nuclear weapons. If Iran did have nuclear weapons, and could deploy them against Israel, would the rest of the world do anything to stop it or punish Iran afterwards? A lot of the Middle East would be fine with Isreal wiped off the map (and probably fine if the Palestinians are collateral damage). The US could retaliate, but I'm not sure we would. Probably just continue the sanctions for another few decades. And Europe would do what they do best - sit on the sidelines and do very little. The rest of the Middle East probably wouldn't care for a nuclear Iran, but not quite the existential threat to them that Iran would represent to Israel.

You can bet that there is a very large contingent of middle eastern countries who are secretly cheering for Israel to wipe Iran off the map. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if some are secretly providing assistance in some form or another.

[UNI88]

Always interesting how this plays out. I'm not sure Israel can really allow Iran to have nuclear weapons. If Iran did have nuclear weapons, and could deploy them against Israel, would the rest of the world do anything to stop it or punish Iran afterwards? A lot of the Middle East would be fine with Isreal wiped off the map (and probably fine if the Palestinians are collateral damage). The US could retaliate, but I'm not sure we would. Probably just continue the sanctions for another few decades. And Europe would do what they do best - sit on the sidelines and do very little. The rest of the Middle East probably wouldn't care for a nuclear Iran, but not quite the existential threat to them that Iran would represent to Israel.

You can bet that there is a very large contingent of middle eastern countries who are secretly cheering for Israel to wipe Iran off the map. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if some are secretly providing assistance in some form or another.

Iran is a significant threat to the Saudis.

I can't imagine Israel doesn't have a doomsday scenario planned where if they're "wiped off the map" then Iran is too.

[GannonFan]

You can bet that there is a very large contingent of middle eastern countries who are secretly cheering for Israel to wipe Iran off the map. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if some are secretly providing assistance in some form or another.

Iran is a significant threat to the Saudis.

I can't imagine Israel doesn't have a doomsday scenario planned where if they're "wiped off the map" then Iran is too.

Not just the Saudis - the Arabs and Persians don't really get along.

[houndawg]

Netanyahu is one of the top 5 greatest leaders of a country in the last 500 years.

I wish the USA had a guy like that, all we have are rich slimeball politicians that never accomplished anything in life except to get rich and steal from the USA as a member of congress. Then we have Trump who is as close as we will ever get. 99% never served in the military unlike Netanyahu.

Israel needs to strike Iran 3 more times and go heavy on infrastructure, and oil targets. Cut Irans money off by taking out oil.

Netanyahu is doing the world another favor taking out these guys

He's just trying to stay out of prison.

[houndawg]

Netanyahu is one of the top 5 greatest leaders of a country in the last 500 years.

I wish the USA had a guy like that, all we have are rich slimeball politicians that never accomplished anything in life except to get rich and steal from the USA as a member of congress. Then we have Trump who is as close as we will ever get. 99% never served in the military unlike Netanyahu.

Israel needs to strike Iran 3 more times and go heavy on infrastructure, and oil targets. Cut Irans money off by taking out oil.

Netanyahu is doing the world another favor taking out these guys

Ukraine could easily do the same with Russia if Trump wasn't chickenshit about all things Putin and sent them what they need.

[Gil Dobie]

Netanyahu is one of the top 5 greatest leaders of a country in the last 500 years.

I wish the USA had a guy like that, all we have are rich slimeball politicians that never accomplished anything in life except to get rich and steal from the USA as a member of congress. Then we have Trump who is as close as we will ever get. 99% never served in the military unlike Netanyahu.

Israel needs to strike Iran 3 more times and go heavy on infrastructure, and oil targets. Cut Irans money off by taking out oil.

Netanyahu is doing the world another favor taking out these guys

Ukraine could easily do the same with Russia if Trump wasn't chickenshit about all things Putin and sent them what they need.

Did the Biden Billionaire Puppet Presidency have a chance to do that, or wasn't it profitable for his billionaire clan. Maybe it's not profitable to Trump's billionaire clan either. Depends on the best way to make money.

[houndawg]

Ukraine could easily do the same with Russia if Trump wasn't chickenshit about all things Putin and sent them what they need.

Did the Biden Billionaire Puppet Presidency have a chance to do that, or wasn't it profitable for his billionaire clan. Maybe it's not profitable to Trump's billionaire clan either. Depends on the best way to make money.

Nothing is more profitable than war, Gil, we're missing a golden opportunity

[kalm]

If only someone had negotiated a deal with Iran that limited uranium enrichment production, allowed for constant inspections, etc.

[BDKJMU]

If only someone had negotiated a deal with Iran that limited uranium enrichment production, allowed for constant inspections, etc.

Too bad no one ever has.

[kalm]

If only someone had negotiated a deal with Iran that limited uranium enrichment production, allowed for constant inspections, etc.

Too bad no one ever has.

Ok, so let’s hear your complete analysis of the Obama deal and also how it was going before being sacked by Trump.

[houndawg]

If only someone had negotiated a deal with Iran that limited uranium enrichment production, allowed for constant inspections, etc.

Too bad no one ever has.

Hook.Line.Sinker.

[Caribbean Hen]

Too bad no one ever has.

Ok, so let’s hear your complete analysis of the Obama deal and also how it was going before being sacked by Trump.

Was a win win for Iran…. Enrich the nation and was never going to stop from achieving the ultimate goal to have nukes

[GannonFan]

Too bad no one ever has.

Ok, so let’s hear your complete analysis of the Obama deal and also how it was going before being sacked by Trump.

Even the most optimistic take on the Obama era Iran deal was that it would delay them getting nuclear weapons by maybe a decade at best. The criticism of that deal was that it was more a pathway to getting nukes, not a barrier. And in the meantime, with all the concessions we made to free up Iranian money, that money would go into funding the proxy groups that Iran had in place to attack Israel - Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. It was a classic "peace in our time" document that didn't really guarantee anything while kicking the nuclear can down the road for a decade.

I'm not sure how we can ever trust the regime currently in place in Iran to ever have enrichment of uranium without converting them to weapons. Given their behavior to continue funding attacks on Israel through proxy groups, and given their published desire to wipe Israel from the map, I'm inclined to agree with Israel that Iran can never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Maybe once they get a different government the calculus changes, but not under this regime.

[kalm]

Ok, so let’s hear your complete analysis of the Obama deal and also how it was going before being sacked by Trump.

Even the most optimistic take on the Obama era Iran deal was that it would delay them getting nuclear weapons by maybe a decade at best. The criticism of that deal was that it was more a pathway to getting nukes, not a barrier. And in the meantime, with all the concessions we made to free up Iranian money, that money would go into funding the proxy groups that Iran had in place to attack Israel - Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. It was a classic "peace in our time" document that didn't really guarantee anything while kicking the nuclear can down the road for a decade.

I'm not sure how we can ever trust the regime currently in place in Iran to ever have enrichment of uranium without converting them to weapons. Given their behavior to continue funding attacks on Israel through proxy groups, and given their published desire to wipe Israel from the map, I'm inclined to agree with Israel that Iran can never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Maybe once they get a different government the calculus changes, but not under this regime.

This is a solid response. Thank you.

[Caribbean Hen]

Even the most optimistic take on the Obama era Iran deal was that it would delay them getting nuclear weapons by maybe a decade at best. The criticism of that deal was that it was more a pathway to getting nukes, not a barrier. And in the meantime, with all the concessions we made to free up Iranian money, that money would go into funding the proxy groups that Iran had in place to attack Israel - Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. It was a classic "peace in our time" document that didn't really guarantee anything while kicking the nuclear can down the road for a decade.

I'm not sure how we can ever trust the regime currently in place in Iran to ever have enrichment of uranium without converting them to weapons. Given their behavior to continue funding attacks on Israel through proxy groups, and given their published desire to wipe Israel from the map, I'm inclined to agree with Israel that Iran can never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Maybe once they get a different government the calculus changes, but not under this regime.

This is a solid response. Thank you.

Another way to put it is Iran is just like the spoiled rotten lil Hunter of the world that Joey Rotten would never spank….. until one day Trump Daddy came home and broke out the belt on these entitled brats … game over

[BDKJMU]

Too bad no one ever has.

Ok, so let’s hear your complete analysis of the Obama deal and also how it was going before being sacked by Trump.

A terrible treaty that didn’t allow for unannounced, anytime, anywhere inspections, and gave Iran access to a gigantic amount of $$ to put back into their Nuke program and fund their terrorist proxies. Wasn’t going to stop Iran from getting nukes.

[BDKJMU]

Ok, so let’s hear your complete analysis of the Obama deal and also how it was going before being sacked by Trump.

Was a win win for Iran…. Enrich the nation and was never going to stop from achieving the ultimate goal to have nukes

Exactly. The Obama deal that Kalm trumpets was terrible.

[BDKJMU]

Ok, so let’s hear your complete analysis of the Obama deal and also how it was going before being sacked by Trump.

Even the most optimistic take on the Obama era Iran deal was that it would delay them getting nuclear weapons by maybe a decade at best. The criticism of that deal was that it was more a pathway to getting nukes, not a barrier. And in the meantime, with all the concessions we made to free up Iranian money, that money would go into funding the proxy groups that Iran had in place to attack Israel - Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. It was a classic "peace in our time" document that didn't really guarantee anything while kicking the nuclear can down the road for a decade.

I'm not sure how we can ever trust the regime currently in place in Iran to ever have enrichment of uranium without converting them to weapons. Given their behavior to continue funding attacks on Israel through proxy groups, and given their published desire to wipe Israel from the map, I'm inclined to agree with Israel that Iran can never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Maybe once they get a different government the calculus changes, but not under this regime.

I see GF beat me to it. What he said + didn’t allow for unannounced, anytime, anywhere inspections. So basically the Obama’s Iran deal was worthless as titties on a bull.

[kalm]

Was a win win for Iran…. Enrich the nation and was never going to stop from achieving the ultimate goal to have nukes

Exactly. The Obama deal that Kalm trumpets was terrible.

Did I trumpet it or did I question it?

[kalm]

Even the most optimistic take on the Obama era Iran deal was that it would delay them getting nuclear weapons by maybe a decade at best. The criticism of that deal was that it was more a pathway to getting nukes, not a barrier. And in the meantime, with all the concessions we made to free up Iranian money, that money would go into funding the proxy groups that Iran had in place to attack Israel - Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. It was a classic "peace in our time" document that didn't really guarantee anything while kicking the nuclear can down the road for a decade.

I'm not sure how we can ever trust the regime currently in place in Iran to ever have enrichment of uranium without converting them to weapons. Given their behavior to continue funding attacks on Israel through proxy groups, and given their published desire to wipe Israel from the map, I'm inclined to agree with Israel that Iran can never be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Maybe once they get a different government the calculus changes, but not under this regime.

I see GF beat me to it. What he said + didn’t allow for unannounced, anytime, anywhere inspections. So basically the Obama’s Iran deal was worthless as titties on a bull.

Too late. You already replied. Your opinions on it are null and void regardless of being right or wrong.