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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:40 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 6:48 pm

What is your odd obsession with gay sex?

Regardless your hang ups, the family got a notice to appear in court, that is on record in PACER that their asylum was denied and they needed to leave. Follow that up with a 2017 meeting that told them the same. If the family moved, they also didn't follow the law by letting the government know where to send communication, but that isn't being said. Lastly, they didn't bother to come through a port of entry like required, but hopped the border. That's a lot of breaking the law.

The judge is pulling the usual. Girl is gone, but I'm going to stamp my feet and show my TDS.
You're the one who is obsessed with my ass.

The judge's ruling seems pretty reasonable and also temporary (i.e. keep her here while we sort this out). The government simply has to make their case in court, win and then they can deport. The were either impatient or they were worried they didn't have a strong enough case to win. If the judge's verdict doesn't go their way they can appeal. That is the role of the judiciary and how the legal process works.

The government doesn't get to ignore the judge's ruling because they don't like it, disagree with it, or think the judge has tDS.
Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans. Why should anyone else follow the rules?
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:15 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 7:13 pm

As a child. Also…drug trafficker. That little part you’re ignoring. If we use Trump’s math he’s probably killed 1.2 billion Americans by now.
Yes, as a child. You read correctly.
Glad you acknowledge that.

Now…reconcile the pardon of one of the most prolific drug traffickers in history with what’s happening in Venezuela. A country who’s responsible for what? Maybe 1% of the drugs entering the U.S., none of which is fentanyl btw.
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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kalm wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:20 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:15 pm

Yes, as a child. You read correctly.
Glad you acknowledge that.

Now…reconcile the pardon of one of the most prolific drug traffickers in history with what’s happening in Venezuela. A country who’s responsible for what? Maybe 1% of the drugs entering the U.S., none of which is fentanyl btw.
So a girl who's parents ignored a court date and/or didn't notify officials per law their location should get to stay because of some prolific drug guy? Wut
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:38 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:20 pm

Glad you acknowledge that.

Now…reconcile the pardon of one of the most prolific drug traffickers in history with what’s happening in Venezuela. A country who’s responsible for what? Maybe 1% of the drugs entering the U.S., none of which is fentanyl btw.
So a girl who's parents ignored a court date and/or didn't notify officials per law their location should get to stay because of some prolific drug guy? Wut
Playing dumb is not your strength. No wait!

Or is it?
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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kalm wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 8:50 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:38 pm

So a girl who's parents ignored a court date and/or didn't notify officials per law their location should get to stay because of some prolific drug guy? Wut
Playing dumb is not your strength. No wait!

Or is it?
Yes. The fact the family did not come through a port of entry, have a PACER record a summons was sent to their address, and if they weren't there, they did not fill out the forms in a lawful manner.

What else is there? Like I said, parents broke the law and now the daughter is paying. It's despicable you go after everyone but the two people that caused this, her parents.
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:17 pm
UNI88 wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:40 pm

You're the one who is obsessed with my ass.

The judge's ruling seems pretty reasonable and also temporary (i.e. keep her here while we sort this out). The government simply has to make their case in court, win and then they can deport. The were either impatient or they were worried they didn't have a strong enough case to win. If the judge's verdict doesn't go their way they can appeal. That is the role of the judiciary and how the legal process works.

The government doesn't get to ignore the judge's ruling because they don't like it, disagree with it, or think the judge has tDS.
Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans. Why should anyone else follow the rules?
Care to back that up with proof using actual legal analysis not biased bullshit that you pulled from a MAQA yahoo echo chamber?

It's also more "they did it first" excuses! Didn't you MAQA yahoos say that the adults would be in charge when trump took office? We're 10+ months in, when do they start?
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:21 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 8:50 pm

Playing dumb is not your strength. No wait!

Or is it?
Yes. The fact the family did not come through a port of entry, have a PACER record a summons was sent to their address, and if they weren't there, they did not fill out the forms in a lawful manner.

What else is there? Like I said, parents broke the law and now the daughter is paying. It's despicable you go after everyone but the two people that caused this, her parents.
Looks like you’re not quite cerebral enough to remember the debate started with a comparison between one Honduran girl being deported vs. one Honduran drug kingpin being pardoned.

For shame… :ohno:
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 10:12 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:17 pm

Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans. Why should anyone else follow the rules?
Care to back that up with proof using actual legal analysis not biased bullshit that you pulled from a MAQA yahoo echo chamber?

It's also more "they did it first" excuses! Didn't you MAQA yahoos say that the adults would be in charge when trump took office? We're 10+ months in, when do they start?
You are the world's shittiest "libertarian". No clue on this one.
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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kalm wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 11:48 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:21 pm

Yes. The fact the family did not come through a port of entry, have a PACER record a summons was sent to their address, and if they weren't there, they did not fill out the forms in a lawful manner.

What else is there? Like I said, parents broke the law and now the daughter is paying. It's despicable you go after everyone but the two people that caused this, her parents.
Looks like you’re not quite cerebral enough to remember the debate started with a comparison between one Honduran girl being deported vs. one Honduran drug kingpin being pardoned.

For shame… :ohno:
I wasn't a part of that stupid conversation. You support law breakers.
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Re: Trump 2.0: MAGAA

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kalm wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:20 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 7:15 pm

Yes, as a child. You read correctly.
Glad you acknowledge that.

Now…reconcile the pardon of one of the most prolific drug traffickers in history with what’s happening in Venezuela. A country who’s responsible for what? Maybe 1% of the drugs entering the U.S., none of which is fentanyl btw.
1%. :lol:

Can you account for the other 99%

Colombia is responsible for close to 90%, meaning those drugs originate in Colombia but most off it is actually loaded on the boats in Venezuela now

By god, you are so pristine in your dumbness
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:17 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 10:12 pm

Care to back that up with proof using actual legal analysis not biased bullshit that you pulled from a MAQA yahoo echo chamber?

It's also more "they did it first" excuses! Didn't you MAQA yahoos say that the adults would be in charge when trump took office? We're 10+ months in, when do they start?
You are the world's shittiest "libertarian". No clue on this one.
So you have nothing:
- You can't back it up with actual legal analysis.
- You're embarrassed about being called out for using child excuses after all the talk about the adults finally being in charge.

You resort to name calling and/or logical fallacies when you have nothing. It's your MO.
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:15 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 12:17 am

You are the world's shittiest "libertarian". No clue on this one.
So you have nothing:
- You can't back it up with actual legal analysis.
- You're embarrassed about being called out for using child excuses after all the talk about the adults finally being in charge.

You resort to name calling and/or logical fallacies when you have nothing. It's your MO.
Powerful rebuke of Biden.

https://www.mackinac.org/archives/2025/ ... eb2025.pdf

So what did he do after this. He simply changed the loan terms to STILL forgive debt he wasn't supposed to.

You voted and supported this piece of crap.
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:37 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:15 pm

So you have nothing:
- You can't back it up with actual legal analysis.
- You're embarrassed about being called out for using child excuses after all the talk about the adults finally being in charge.

You resort to name calling and/or logical fallacies when you have nothing. It's your MO.
Powerful rebuke of Biden.

https://www.mackinac.org/archives/2025/ ... eb2025.pdf

So what did he do after this. He simply changed the loan terms to STILL forgive debt he wasn't supposed to.

You voted and supported this piece of crap.
I voted for him because I knew the other piece of crap would do much worse…to benefit himself. Unlike assisting college grads where at least the money flows back into the economy for all.

But by all means, distract from the current grifter and criminal who defies courts anyway. :lol:
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Re: trump 0.2: MAQAA

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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:37 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:15 pm
So you have nothing:
- You can't back it up with actual legal analysis.
- You're embarrassed about being called out for using child excuses after all the talk about the adults finally being in charge.

You resort to name calling and/or logical fallacies when you have nothing. It's your MO.
Powerful rebuke of Biden.

https://www.mackinac.org/archives/2025/ ... eb2025.pdf

So what did he do after this. He simply changed the loan terms to STILL forgive debt he wasn't supposed to.

You voted and supported this piece of crap.
I asked ChatGPT if "Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans"? Here is what it said (along with the sources):
In June 2023, the Supreme Court issued a 6–3 decision invalidating Biden’s proposed plan to forgive up to $20,000 in federal student debt per borrower. The Court found that under the existing law (the 2003 Heroes Act) the administration lacked authority to enact such sweeping cancellation.
- The Guardian, CBS News

After the ruling, Biden publicly acknowledged the decision, said he thought the Court was “wrong,” but accepted its decision. He said his administration would seek a new “path” to debt relief under a different law.
- CNBC, The White House

The administration did not re-implement the identical plan that SCOTUS struck down. That means they did not defy a direct Supreme Court order.

After the ruling, the administration pivoted to alternative measures: using existing statutory authorities (e.g. other loan-relief, income-driven repayment, loan forgiveness under targeted programs) in an attempt to deliver relief.
- CBS News, Newsweek

Some of those efforts were challenged in court too, which has led critics to argue the administration is skating close to the boundaries or trying to circumvent the spirit of the ruling.
- Newsweek
It might be a "powerful rebuke of Biden" but it isn't proof that "Biden ignored the Supreme Court on college loans".

I didn't vote for the piece of crap biden, piece of crap trump, piece of crap harris, or piece of crap clinton in the last 3 Presidential elections. Can you say that you didn't vote for any of those pieces of crap?
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But, but, but….Hunter Biden!

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