UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
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UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
Britain last night fired the first shot in a potentially explosive diplomatic row with Israel by calling in the country's ambassador to explain the use of faked British passports by a hit squad who targeted a Hamas official in Dubai.
The Israeli ambassador has been summoned to the Foreign Office to "share information" about the assassins' use of identities stolen from six British citizens living in Israel, as part of the meticulously orchestrated assassination of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.
Britain has stopped short of accusing Israel of involvement, but to signal its displeasure, the Foreign Office ignored an Israeli plea to keep the summons secret. "Relations were in the freezer before this. They are in the deep freeze now," an official told the Guardian.
Gordon Brown yesterday launched an investigation into the use of the fake passports, which will be led by the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca). The British embassy in Tel Aviv is also contacting the British nationals affected in the plot, "and stands ready to provide them with the support that they need", the Foreign Office said in a statement last night.
"The British passport is an important part of being British and we have to make sure everything is done to protect it," Brown told LBC Radio yesterday.
Israel's foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, insisted there was no proof that the Mossad was involved in Mabhouh's killing in a Dubai hotel last month, but added that Israel had a "policy of ambiguity" on intelligence matters.
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The Israeli ambassador has been summoned to the Foreign Office to "share information" about the assassins' use of identities stolen from six British citizens living in Israel, as part of the meticulously orchestrated assassination of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh.
Britain has stopped short of accusing Israel of involvement, but to signal its displeasure, the Foreign Office ignored an Israeli plea to keep the summons secret. "Relations were in the freezer before this. They are in the deep freeze now," an official told the Guardian.
Gordon Brown yesterday launched an investigation into the use of the fake passports, which will be led by the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca). The British embassy in Tel Aviv is also contacting the British nationals affected in the plot, "and stands ready to provide them with the support that they need", the Foreign Office said in a statement last night.
"The British passport is an important part of being British and we have to make sure everything is done to protect it," Brown told LBC Radio yesterday.
Israel's foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, insisted there was no proof that the Mossad was involved in Mabhouh's killing in a Dubai hotel last month, but added that Israel had a "policy of ambiguity" on intelligence matters.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
Good for Israel.

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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
I say bomb israel now.ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Good for Israel.

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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
Unless you are kidding, why?polsongrizz wrote:I say bomb israel now.
I look at Israel as one of our very strong allies and really like that they don't take crap from anyone.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
Of course, the problem is, no one will ever know for certain who was behind all of this. Was it an Israeli operation that was just sloppy in that they got caught, or did someone else run this operation and hope that people would blame Israel as the most likely culprit? It's not like this Hamas guy was without enemies all around. I wouldn't doubt that Israel did it, but we'll never know.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
SeattleGriz wrote:Unless you are kidding, why?polsongrizz wrote:I say bomb israel now.
I look at Israel as one of our very strong allies and really like that they don't take crap from anyone.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
Sounds like a good Brad Thor novel.GannonFan wrote:Of course, the problem is, no one will ever know for certain who was behind all of this. Was it an Israeli operation that was just sloppy in that they got caught, or did someone else run this operation and hope that people would blame Israel as the most likely culprit? It's not like this Hamas guy was without enemies all around. I wouldn't doubt that Israel did it, but we'll never know.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
That's sort of what I was thinking, but more along the lines of the character 'Gabriel Allon', the Israeli assassin from the David Silva novelsHI54UNI wrote:Sounds like a good Brad Thor novel.GannonFan wrote:Of course, the problem is, no one will ever know for certain who was behind all of this. Was it an Israeli operation that was just sloppy in that they got caught, or did someone else run this operation and hope that people would blame Israel as the most likely culprit? It's not like this Hamas guy was without enemies all around. I wouldn't doubt that Israel did it, but we'll never know.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
bandl wrote:That's sort of what I was thinking, but more along the lines of the character 'Gabriel Allon', the Israeli assassin from the David Silva novelsHI54UNI wrote:
Sounds like a good Brad Thor novel.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
Gotta love the Israelis. They will come whack your ass and don't give a fvck about how they do it.
Anybody notice that nobody has crashed airplanes into any buildings in Tel Aviv?
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%90 of the trouble in the middle east is directly related to Israel. As far as allies go have you ever heard of Pollard, among numerous other jews spying on the US. Which in and of itself is fine. We spy they spy, but we are talking about a country that takes 4 BILLION a year from us. They wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for us.SeattleGriz wrote:Unless you are kidding, why?polsongrizz wrote:I say bomb israel now.
I look at Israel as one of our very strong allies and really like that they don't take crap from anyone.
From his position of trust within the US Navy, Pollard delivered over 1000 stolen classified documents to Israel for which he was well paid. Included in those documents were the names of over 150 US agents in the Mideast, who were eventually “turned” into agents for Israel.
But by far the most egregious damage done by Pollard was to steal classified documents relating to the US Nuclear Deterrent relative to the USSR and send them to Israel. According to sources in the US State Department, Israel then turned around and traded those stolen nuclear secrets to the USSR in exchange for increased emigration quotas from the USSR to Israel. Other information that found its way from the US to Israel to the USSR resulted in the loss of American agents operating inside the USSR. Casper Weinberger, in his affidavit opposing a reduced sentence for Pollard, described the damage done to the United States thus, "[It is] difficult to conceive of a greater harm to national security than that caused by... Pollard's treasonous behavior."
Israel has been spying on the United States since the 40's. Our own government states this...
1996 A General Accounting Office report "Defense Industrial Security: Weaknesses in US Security Arrangements With Foreign-Owned Defense Contractors" found that according to intelligence sources "Country A" (identified by intelligence sources as Israel), "conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally."
Is this really a country that you want to be allies with? Not me, fuck them.
As far as allies go they are POS. What do they have that we need? Really, what commodity do they grow or produce that is important to us?
The number one item exported from there to here is diamonds. Funny thing though the number one item exported from here to there is, you guessed it, diamonds. Huh?
Gem diamonds … US$9.5 billion – up 10.5% from 2006 (45.6% of Israel-to-U.S. exports)
Gem diamonds … US$4.9 billion – up 20.6% from 2006 (37.5% of Israeli imports from America)
They have done nothing but use us and during the process made us more vulnerable. In this day and age we do not need another country who fucks us over on a daily basis while sucking on our teat.

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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
I was going to take the easy way out and call you anti semitic but youve convinced me.
Fuck Israel, goddamned jews killed Christ and its been all down hill ever since.
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If Iran were to take out Israel with nukes and we nuked Iran in retaliation........polsongrizz wrote:%90 of the trouble in the middle east is directly related to Israel. As far as allies go have you ever heard of Pollard, among numerous other jews spying on the US. Which in and of itself is fine. We spy they spy, but we are talking about a country that takes 4 BILLION a year from us. They wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for us.SeattleGriz wrote:
Unless you are kidding, why?
I look at Israel as one of our very strong allies and really like that they don't take crap from anyone.
From his position of trust within the US Navy, Pollard delivered over 1000 stolen classified documents to Israel for which he was well paid. Included in those documents were the names of over 150 US agents in the Mideast, who were eventually “turned” into agents for Israel.
But by far the most egregious damage done by Pollard was to steal classified documents relating to the US Nuclear Deterrent relative to the USSR and send them to Israel. According to sources in the US State Department, Israel then turned around and traded those stolen nuclear secrets to the USSR in exchange for increased emigration quotas from the USSR to Israel. Other information that found its way from the US to Israel to the USSR resulted in the loss of American agents operating inside the USSR. Casper Weinberger, in his affidavit opposing a reduced sentence for Pollard, described the damage done to the United States thus, "[It is] difficult to conceive of a greater harm to national security than that caused by... Pollard's treasonous behavior."
Israel has been spying on the United States since the 40's. Our own government states this...
1996 A General Accounting Office report "Defense Industrial Security: Weaknesses in US Security Arrangements With Foreign-Owned Defense Contractors" found that according to intelligence sources "Country A" (identified by intelligence sources as Israel), "conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally."
Is this really a country that you want to be allies with? Not me, **** them.
As far as allies go they are POS. What do they have that we need? Really, what commodity do they grow or produce that is important to us?
The number one item exported from there to here is diamonds. Funny thing though the number one item exported from here to there is, you guessed it, diamonds. Huh?
Gem diamonds … US$9.5 billion – up 10.5% from 2006 (45.6% of Israel-to-U.S. exports)
Gem diamonds … US$4.9 billion – up 20.6% from 2006 (37.5% of Israeli imports from America)
They have done nothing but use us and during the process made us more vulnerable. In this day and age we do not need another country who **** us over on a daily basis while sucking on our teat.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
Basically stopped reading there. Even if Israel had never existed we would still be at odds with most of the Middle East. We do crazy stuff like let our women talk in public, and we let people worship (or not worship) any religion they like, and we believe in Democracy. Take Israel out of the equation and very little changes. Israel's a red herring.polsongrizz wrote: %90 of the trouble in the middle east is directly related to Israel.
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This assassination thing's gonna look like nothing compared to what's coming once Israel's convinced that Iran's beyond the point of no return on nukes...
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
Ruh roh........
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DUBAI (Reuters) - Dubai's police chief plans to seek the arrest of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the head of Israel's spy agency over the killing of a Hamas leader in the emirate, Al Jazeera television reported.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
I thought it was because there wasn't enough AC units to go around. Damn hot over there. I would think that if more folks over in the middle east had AC there would be way way less fighting.polsongrizz wrote: %90 of the trouble in the middle east is directly related to Israel.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
ACgrizzaholic wrote:I thought it was because there wasn't enough AC units to go around. Damn hot over there. I would think that if more folks over in the middle east had AC there would be way way less fighting.polsongrizz wrote: %90 of the trouble in the middle east is directly related to Israel.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
Or maybe some AC/DC!danefan wrote:ACgrizzaholic wrote:
I thought it was because there wasn't enough AC units to go around. Damn hot over there. I would think that if more folks over in the middle east had AC there would be way way less fighting.
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Re: UK calls in Israeli ambassador as Dubai killing row escalate
I think we should cut a deal with the Saudis and nuke Israel in exchange for free oil for the next twenty years.CID1990 wrote:Gotta love the Israelis. They will come whack your ass and don't give a fvck about how they do it.
Anybody notice that nobody has crashed airplanes into any buildings in Tel Aviv?
...Or that there haven't been shoe or crotch bombers on El Al?
Advantages: elimination of US debt, vastly lowered military expenditures, the chance to take charge of our own foreign policy.
It's a win-win, the US would not be a debtor nation anymore, and the Saudis would achieve their heart's desire. If Jewish folk in the US complain, we can release Jonathon Pollard to shut them up. (BTW, why hasn't that POS been sent to Gitmo for water boarding?)
You're a diplomat, CID, why don't you run this up the flagpole at work; it's beautiful in it's simplicity and if we used neutron warheads there wouldn't even be any radioactive fallout.
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