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HI54UNI wrote:I feel bad for his family but damn that is funnier than shit! :rofl:
I agree that the irony is very funny.

If this guy was a serious scientist trying to get to the bottom of the Global Warming issue, this is a loss. If he was an extremist, I don't feel quite so bad. I haven't read his bio, so I don't know anything about the guy.
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HI54UNI wrote:I feel bad for his family but damn that is funnier than shit! :rofl:
I agree that the irony is very funny.

If this guy was a serious scientist trying to get to the bottom of the Global Warming issue, this is a loss. If he was an extremist, I don't feel quite so bad. I haven't read his bio, so I don't know anything about the guy.
Is there a "serious scientist" alive who doesn't know better than to snowmobile into the middle of Antarctica in the dead of winter? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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travelinman67 wrote:...think this is indicative of the GW'ers lack of mental acuity.

Rather than utilizing scientific data gathered from existing Antartic research stations to "prove" a theory (which btw, is currently contradicting GW theory), this yokel runs out into mid-winter Antartic with a camera to "film" the alleged "effects" of so-called GW.

How many times have we watched commericals, or pseudo-documentaries about the environment and the purported claims of GW harm, while an image of glacial melt water streams through crevasses or down sinkholes while a narrator reads alarmist propoganda?

This was just another propogandist attempt gone awry.



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BlueHen86 wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:I feel bad for his family but damn that is funnier than shit! :rofl:
I agree that the irony is very funny.

If this guy was a serious scientist trying to get to the bottom of the Global Warming issue, this is a loss. If he was an extremist, I don't feel quite so bad. I haven't read his bio, so I don't know anything about the guy.
If I hypothesize that lava is not hot, then burn up rappelling into an active volcano, what does that say about my scientific acumen?

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Would you mourn for me, or post a thread mocking the irony of my death?

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Since the article indicates he was a Professor, he pretty much had to be an intelligent person. I just don't understand how a reasonably intelligent person could do something so foolish. And it sounds like he and the guy with him didn't even let anybody know what they were doing. It reads like those at the South Pole Station didn't know they were coming. Surely it can't be true that they thought July would be the warm season at the South Pole. No way.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Since the article indicates he was a Professor, he pretty much had to be an intelligent person. I just don't understand how a reasonably intelligent person could do something so foolish. And it sounds like he and the guy with him didn't even let anybody know what they were doing. It reads like those at the South Pole Station didn't know they were coming. Surely it can't be true that they thought July would be the warm season at the South Pole. No way.
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Reading your own words, JSO, would you say he sounded like an "intelligent person"?

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BlueHen86 wrote:
I agree that the irony is very funny.

If this guy was a serious scientist trying to get to the bottom of the Global Warming issue, this is a loss. If he was an extremist, I don't feel quite so bad. I haven't read his bio, so I don't know anything about the guy.
Is there a "serious scientist" alive who doesn't know better than to snowmobile into the middle of Antarctica in the dead of winter? :lol: :lol: :lol:
As a child I lived next door to a real smart Yale professor who would often misplace his car. He once drove to work, and then walked home because the weather was nice. The next day he couldn't find his car, so he reported it stolen.

It wouldn't shock me if the guy was brilliant, but absent minded and/or with no common sense.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
I agree that the irony is very funny.

If this guy was a serious scientist trying to get to the bottom of the Global Warming issue, this is a loss. If he was an extremist, I don't feel quite so bad. I haven't read his bio, so I don't know anything about the guy.
If I hypothesize that lava is not hot, then burn up rappelling into an active volcano, what does that say about my scientific acumen?

:roll:


Would you mourn for me, or post a thread mocking the irony of my death?

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I didn't know what the guy hypothesized, so I'm not sure how applicable your analogy is. Do we know exactly why he went to the South Pole?

I do find his death ironic, but I find it sad that several people on this site (you included) seem happy that the guy is dead just because he was interested in Global Warming. :ohno:
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BlueHen86 wrote:
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Is there a "serious scientist" alive who doesn't know better than to snowmobile into the middle of Antarctica in the dead of winter? :lol: :lol: :lol:
As a child I lived next door to a real smart Yale professor who would often misplace his car. He once drove to work, and then walked home because the weather was nice. The next day he couldn't find his car, so he reported it stolen.

It wouldn't shock me if the guy was brilliant, but absent minded and/or with no common sense.
So was the Rainman. But I wouldn't entrust comprehensive theoretical research to him. I'll admit "savants" have something to contribute to intellectual pursuit, but they should not be entrusted with scientific responsibilities effecting mankind for centuries.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
If I hypothesize that lava is not hot, then burn up rappelling into an active volcano, what does that say about my scientific acumen?

:roll:


Would you mourn for me, or post a thread mocking the irony of my death?

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I didn't know what the guy hypothesized, so I'm not sure how applicable your analogy is. Do we know exactly why he went to the South Pole?

I do find his death ironic, but I find it sad that several people on this site (you included) seem happy that the guy is dead just because he was interested in Global Warming. :ohno:
Ah, yes, the inevitable "shame" post.

This man is not being belittled BECAUSE HE WAS A GW ADVOCATE, as much as for his lack of acumen. Akin to the "stupid criminal" whose folly causes his demise, I liken Schnieder's demise to his failure to RECOGNIZE the enormity of the Gaia homestatic (natural) mechanisms which regulate our planet. Whether a GW advocate, tree hugger, or other "protector" of the environment, the one common trait of all is that they perceive man as having domain over natural selection and homeostatic balance. As I've pointed out numerous times in discussions with The Hippie, the inarticulable magnitude of our planet's natural mechanisms have been dismissed by every fool seeking to purport an alarmist and/or self-hating environmental doctrine.

The fact this so-called researcher/filmmaker felt he knew enough about climate he could make a movie about an alleged anthropogenically induced anomalie, yet demonstrated his lack of knowledge by fatally entering a region that any read researcher would have know was potentially lethal, makes him a fool: Not someone to be heralded.
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travelinman67 wrote:
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I didn't know what the guy hypothesized, so I'm not sure how applicable your analogy is. Do we know exactly why he went to the South Pole?

I do find his death ironic, but I find it sad that several people on this site (you included) seem happy that the guy is dead just because he was interested in Global Warming. :ohno:
Ah, yes, the inevitable "shame" post.

This man is not being belittled BECAUSE HE WAS A GW ADVOCATE, as much as for his lack of acumen. Akin to the "stupid criminal" whose folly causes his demise, I liken Schnieder's demise to his failure to RECOGNIZE the enormity of the Gaia homestatic (natural) mechanisms which regulate our planet. Whether a GW advocate, tree hugger, or other "protector" of the environment, the one common trait of all is that they perceive man as having domain over natural selection and homeostatic balance. As I've pointed out numerous times in discussions with The Hippie, the inarticulable magnitude of our planet's natural mechanisms have been dismissed by every fool seeking to purport an alarmist and/or self-hating environmental doctrine.

The fact this so-called researcher/filmmaker felt he knew enough about climate he could make a movie about an alleged anthropogenically induced anomalie, yet demonstrated his lack of knowledge by fatally entering a region that any read researcher would have know was potentially lethal, makes him a fool: Not someone to be heralded.
T-Man, I admitted that the irony of his death was funny. And I'm not heralding the man, but if the guy was trying to make the world a better place, even if he was ill prepared, I think that is a loss and that is all I'm saying.

If the guy was a wacko or an extremist (and he may well have been) then I guess he got what he deserved.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
Ah, yes, the inevitable "shame" post.

This man is not being belittled BECAUSE HE WAS A GW ADVOCATE, as much as for his lack of acumen. Akin to the "stupid criminal" whose folly causes his demise, I liken Schnieder's demise to his failure to RECOGNIZE the enormity of the Gaia homestatic (natural) mechanisms which regulate our planet. Whether a GW advocate, tree hugger, or other "protector" of the environment, the one common trait of all is that they perceive man as having domain over natural selection and homeostatic balance. As I've pointed out numerous times in discussions with The Hippie, the inarticulable magnitude of our planet's natural mechanisms have been dismissed by every fool seeking to purport an alarmist and/or self-hating environmental doctrine.

The fact this so-called researcher/filmmaker felt he knew enough about climate he could make a movie about an alleged anthropogenically induced anomalie, yet demonstrated his lack of knowledge by fatally entering a region that any read researcher would have know was potentially lethal, makes him a fool: Not someone to be heralded.
T-Man, I admitted that the irony of his death was funny. And I'm not heralding the man, but if the guy was trying to make the world a better place, even if he was ill prepared, I think that is a loss and that is all I'm saying.

If the guy was a wacko or an extremist (and he may well have been) then I guess he got what he deserved.
Personally, I think he's stoking the fires of Hell with Chris McCandless and Timothy "Grizzly Man" Treadwell.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
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T-Man, I admitted that the irony of his death was funny. And I'm not heralding the man, but if the guy was trying to make the world a better place, even if he was ill prepared, I think that is a loss and that is all I'm saying.

If the guy was a wacko or an extremist (and he may well have been) then I guess he got what he deserved.
Personally, I think he's stoking the fires of Hell with Chris McCandless and Timothy "Grizzly Man" Treadwell.
Three complete fucking idiots who deserve each other.
Oh well, at least he found warmth.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
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Personally, I think he's stoking the fires of Hell with Chris McCandless and Timothy "Grizzly Man" Treadwell.
Three complete fucking idiots who deserve each other.
Oh well, at least he found warmth.
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Looks like it's a hoax. I know there has been some questioning of Snopes but here's the Snopes take:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/freeze.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It really looks like Snopes is right on this one (and, actually, I've never personally found Snopes to be wrong). The links Snopes provides to document its conclusion are pretty convincing.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Looks like it's a hoax. I know there has been some questioning of Snopes but here's the Snopes take:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/freeze.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It really looks like Snopes is right on this one (and, actually, I've never personally found Snopes to be wrong). The links Snopes provides to document its conclusion are pretty convincing.
Nice find John. :thumb:

I was suspicious myself, but never thought of checking snopes.
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BlueHen86 wrote:

I was suspicious myself, but never thought of checking snopes.
I'd like to take credit for it but what happened is that I told my wife about it and, while she was reading the Fox Nation story on it, she noticed a comment saying that it was false. So she followed up.

I did think it was close to unbelievable that somebody would do such a thing. But with billions of people around, sometimes people do do unbelievable things. I probably wouldn't have caught it. I'd have just shaken my head and thought about how I can't believe somebody would do something like that. You know,not let anybody including his wife know he was going, head out across the Antarctic in -70 F type temperatures, etc.
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Well, shit. I was hoping we'd gotten rid of at LEAST one....
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AZGrizFan wrote:Well, ****. I was hoping we'd gotten rid of at LEAST one....
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