Racist Tea Bag F**KERS!!!

[native]

...the racists accusations discussed in the article which spawned this thread, are just distractions which obfuscate the failures and deficiencies of Obama's progressive agenda, whether you believe in Obamatopia or not.

Sure, but instead of talking about the issues, countless threads have been started about bigotry and racism, countless news articles/media stories are published in this regard. The racist accusations have become the focus of Health Care Reform and of the Tea Party instead of the actual issues themselves, thus this is what we are left with. Finger pointing from both sides of the issue when the issue isn't even being discussed. As I said earlier, it's clear that race is playing a role in some peoples decisions (let's say 1% ), however there is a majority out there (members of whatever group) who oppose health care based off of aspects of the reform bill and aren't letting pettiness drive their decision. In the past few weeks though, no one seems to care to talk about the issues... just polls, race, socialism, guns, etc.

Well, there are plenty of red meat issues to discuss.

Real racism is one such issue. Race baiting is another. False accusations of racism is yet another. In the case of health care, I think the race discussions are mostly off target and prevent us from addressing and resolving real "bread and butter" issues.

[kalm]

If DJ's position on the scale is considered a "moderate", then I'm a Blue Dem....

Exactly!

You are a like a Blue Dem Z. There's simply no room in the Republican Party for socially liberal fiscally conservative folk.

[AZGrizFan]

to steal a phrase from that genius, Bandl:

DIE THREAD, DIE!!!!

[native]

Exactly!

You are a like a Blue Dem Z. There's simply no room in the Republican Party for socially liberal fiscally conservative folk.

Quite to the contrary, kalm! The tea party movement, which is profoundly influencing the Republican Party today, is made up by people who strongly support small government and fiscal conservatism, sometimes at the expense of their own social conservatism.

No one needs to accept the aggressive progressive social transformation agenda in order to be a politically social moderate.

Despite pressure in favor of social conservatism from some quarters of the Republican Party, it is neither a monolithic one-issue block nor the dominant movement within the party. "Live and let live" is still a generally accepted conservative and Republican concept.

With apologies to Z's heartfelt plea to kill the thread...