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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
danefan wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe we got our wires crossed. Forget the intent of the bill. Do you think there is valid concern over the potential implementation of this bill?

None from a legal United States citizen.
See my post does make sense then. Well, to me at least. :lol:

I think there is valid concern with potential implementation of both bills.
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danefan wrote:I like the intent of this law, but I don't think I read how they plan on enforcing it?

Whether or not a course is one that promotes resentment toward one race; is designed for students of one race; or that promotes ethnic solidarity "instead of treating students as individuals;" is a pretty subjective analysis isn't it?

And why in the world would any school have courses that encourage "the overthrow of the United States government"?

Bingo. Its very hard to fairly regulate this law.

Are we going to be getting rid of black history month next?
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danefan wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:That is what I was implying.

I am now extremely confused, you win. I was wrong, I give up.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe we got our wires crossed. Forget the intent of the bill. Do you think there is valid concern over the potential implementation of this bill?
Yes because who will decide what is offensive and racist?
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slycat wrote:
danefan wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe we got our wires crossed. Forget the intent of the bill. Do you think there is valid concern over the potential implementation of this bill?
Yes because who will decide what is offensive and racist?
Whichever party controls the legislative process.

A few years ago, when Gray Davis was plundering CA, the leftislature was passing bill after bill to "define" hate speech. As soon as Davis was recalled, the bills stopped.

Same ol', same ol'.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:I'll tell you what that Jan Brewer is a damn interesting person..!!!
I would love to sit down with her and chat for an hour or two - she seems super fascinating to me

She's got nerves of steel and a keen intellect - I enjoy how she pushes ideas and causes involvement

she's more like what we need all over America... agree with her or not she is "active" and "intense" and responding to her states interests in a way that very few politicians do

:notworthy:
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I saw the schools' chief interview on Fox News this morning while working out. You know, the whole no audio but with captions thing. It seemed like his beef wasn't so much with the idea of ethnic studies per se (though he did seem to have a problem with people studying just their own group; he wants people to study ALL groups). His big grief was the curriculum used to support the classes, which, according to him, said that the way for Chicanos to regain their "rightly deserved" power would be to repatriate everything from Cali to Missouri as the Mexican State of Azteclan or some such nonsense. Nothing to do with the great Chicano contributions to society as a whole. I wouldn't be surprised if the thing missed the late great Cesar Chavez, who forced long-needed changes in the use of migrant farm workers here in Cali.

While I could theoretically see how this could be turned into a Borg issue ("You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."), I don't mind seeing books like that disappear. My preference, though, would be to get books that celebrate Chicano contributions to society as a whole without trying to assert hegemony.
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Chizzang wrote:I'll tell you what that Jan Brewer is a damn interesting person..!!!
I would love to sit down with her and chat for an hour or two - she seems super fascinating to me

She's got nerves of steel and a keen intellect - I enjoy how she pushes ideas and causes involvement



she's more like what we need all over America... agree with her or not she is "active" and "intense" and responding to her states interests in a way that very few politicians do


:notworthy:
Well said, Cleets! :thumb:

Brewer also deserves much more credit for her thoughtful and balanced approch, as well.
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slycat wrote: Are we going to be getting rid of black history month next?
Why not?

I worked for one of the largest companies in the US and they decided to get rid of their Black History Month celebrations. :thumb:

Instead, they celebrated all backgrounds. :notworthy:

Common sense...who is this diverse world would selfishly believe that everyone had to be subjected to a full month of hearing about one particular group's background at the exclusion of everyone else's.
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