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Where your tax dollars might be going... :ohno:
Quantitative Easing
If Obama et al. would go after the banks for the foreclosure fraudulence, QE 2, coming up in a matter of days/weeks, simply couldn’t work. How are you going to get liquidity back into the financial system if you’re suing the well-deserved heebees out of the banking system at the same time? Hey, it would shatter the entire illusion. And yes, that's what it is.

All those people who claim that QE doesn't work, that QE 1 didn’t, 2 won't, yada,yada, you don't get it. QE works like charm. Just not for you, or for the purpose it's advertised for.

It won't get banks back into lending, nothing will, and it won't get anyone a job or a home or anything else. What it WILL do, though, is transfer another inordinate amount of money from the public to the private sector. QE 2 isn't meant to alleviate YOUR problems, it never was nor will be. Come on, be honest, what government program in the past 3 years has done anything for you?

QE 1 and 2 through 826 have, and always will have, only one objective in mind: to clear toxic assets from bank vaults, and at the same time transfer good non-toxic money to those same banks. It is the greatest swindle in history after Fannie and Freddie. Move over Charles Ponzi!

See, you may think you have a problem. But your government says it's the banks that have the problem. And that they're more important than you. So they are handed your money, and you are NOT handed theirs. Got it now? Why so slow? It's been three years!

What the banks do with all that new money is two things: 1) they place it with the Fed, in Treasuries and such, and 2) they go place wagers in international markets, stocks, derivatives, guns, you get the idea, whatever gets them profits and bonuses. In both cases, they make more, at less risk, than if they would lend it to you. Look, you guys were easy pickings for a bit there when you were all signing those fraudulent home loans, but now y'all got one of those, so where would the bonuses come from?

And isn't that the greatest show on earth, Wall Street announcing record payrolls for its geniuses when 1) they wouldn't have a job if not for the future tax revenues of the very Americans who are losing their homes and jobs as we speak, and 2) some 90% of their employers have just been caught with their red-hot hands in the foreclosure cookie-jar?

Record numbers of foreclosures, record unemployment numbers sizzling just below the surface, and record bonuses for the very bankers that got bailed out with the very money that belongs to those very same foreclosed and jobless US citizens.

These days, that’s the way we spell New York. And Washington. And no criminal indictments, other than for a few poor sods in Illinois who can't pay their bills.

Here's a few numbers I picked up along the way today:


$13,624,678,196,435.07
Public debt as of 10/06 (U.S. Dept. of Treasury)

310,435,842
Latest population (U.S. Census Bureau)

$43,888.87
Amount owed by every man, woman and child (See above)

$550,000,000,000 (est)
Amount financed at 10 years or longer (U.S. Dept. of Treasury)

$13,074,678,196,435.07
Amount to be refinanced within 10 years (See above)

53% ($6,929,579,444,110.58)
Amount of debt maturing in 1 to 3 years. (U.S. Dept. of Treasury)

-35%
Corporate tax receipts on a rolling 12 month period. (U.S. Dept. of Treasury)



Yup. $7 trillion in US debt needs to be rolled over in the next 3 years. Another $6 trillion in the 7 years after that. And that's before any new debt commitments are taken on, which they presently are at some $1-1,5 trillion per year. With corporate tax receipts down 35% y-o-y.

But no, that doesn’t spell the demise of the US dollar, really, it doesn't. It spells the demise of the American people.

I told you, QE works.
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I thought the thread was going to be about this

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Big words to explain that the government is printing money and devaluing the dollar.
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native wrote:Big words to explain that the government is printing money and devaluing the dollar.
Yes, all in the name of saving capitalism while transferring wealth upwards. :ohno:
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kalm wrote:
native wrote:Big words to explain that the government is printing money and devaluing the dollar.
Yes, all in the name of saving capitalism while transferring wealth upwards. :ohno:

A reincarnation of every evil robber baron from a century ago would be preferrable to the current Dem big government regime.
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native wrote:
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Yes, all in the name of saving capitalism while transferring wealth upwards. :ohno:

A reincarnation of every evil robber baron from a century ago would be preferrable to the current Dem big government regime.
Yep, the Democrats have sticky fingers - especially when it comes to banking. When manufacturing jobs began leaving our shores and union numbers went down they had to find another sugar daddy to win elections.

Of course - and I know you don't like hearing this - economic fascism is bi-partisan.
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And you mention Robber Barrons...

Any Teddy Roosevelt Republicans coming down the pike I can vote for? :(
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kalm wrote:And you mention Robber Barrons...

Any Teddy Roosevelt Republicans coming down the pike I can vote for? :(
:lol: Ironically, Taft turned out to be a bigger trust buster than Teddy. Maybe we will have a Taft-like Presidential candidate in 2012.
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kalm wrote: ...Of course - and I know you don't like hearing this - economic fascism is bi-partisan.

"Economic fascism?" :lol: :lol: :lol:

None are better at that concept in the entire history of American politics than big government Democrats.

Without big gov dems, there is a small sliver of hope. With big gov dems, there is no hope.
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native wrote:
kalm wrote:And you mention Robber Barrons...

Any Teddy Roosevelt Republicans coming down the pike I can vote for? :(
:lol: Ironically, Taft turned out to be a bigger trust buster than Teddy. Maybe we will have a Taft-like Presidential candidate in 2012.
Fat chance. :rimshot:
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native wrote:
kalm wrote: ...Of course - and I know you don't like hearing this - economic fascism is bi-partisan.

"Economic fascism?" :lol: :lol: :lol:

None are better at that concept in the entire history of American politics than big government Democrats.

Without big gov dems, there is a small sliver of hope. With big gov dems, there is no hope.
Google "privatization" sometime. :ohno:
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kalm wrote:
native wrote:
:lol: Ironically, Taft turned out to be a bigger trust buster than Teddy. Maybe we will have a Taft-like Presidential candidate in 2012.
Fat chance. :rimshot:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Thanks for the rimshot! Multimedia aids the learning process. :thumb:
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kalm wrote:
native wrote:

"Economic fascism?" :lol: :lol: :lol:

None are better at that concept in the entire history of American politics than big government Democrats.

Without big gov dems, there is a small sliver of hope. With big gov dems, there is no hope.
Google "privatization" sometime. :ohno:
...yawn... :roll:
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native wrote:
kalm wrote:
Google "privatization" sometime. :ohno:
...yawn... :roll:
Damn, you were getting so close to understanding. :( :thumb:
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