TX GOP Rep: No illegals, except for maids, lawnworkers

[BDKJMU]

Of course, if we just opened up immigration into this country, especially to those with plenty of skills, we may not even have this problem. I think we do too much in terms of restricting immigration into this country. Let's take in the best and the brightest from other countries and have them set up shop here. Providing some more legal ways to get here, and targetting the most capable, couldn't be a bad thing, really.

We already allow and encourage as much or more LEGAL immigration as any country in the world.

But I agree we should make legal immigration of skilled immigrants even easier. And I would add more guest worker visas. One key enabler of a successful immigration reform would be to significantly reduce the welfare state programs which encourage sloth among citizens and is part of the reason for the immigration in the first place.

P.S. The b1tch is an embarrasing fvcking idiot.

Ditto

[TwinTownBisonFan]

This is a good idea and I have no problem with this. My question is who will fill the labor void left when the cheap labor is deported? Business owners stand to lose tons of money when they find that their workforce has been deported and not many people will be willing to do the work.

I guess an extremely bright group of people can come up with some exemptions regarding who can stay?

I've said it on here before. Of course if Americans can stay on unemployment for up to 3 years and welfare for up to 3 years they're not going to do those jobs that the illegals do. Deport the illegals, take away the extended unemployment and welfare and you'd be able to find plenty of Americans to do those jobs in agriculture, construction, landscaping, hotels, restaurants, factories, etc, etc. They would have 2 choices: Be willing to do those jobs, or starve.

or resort to criminal activity...

[Appaholic]

Kids are fat, stressed, bored, and stupid - just like adults. PE is just as important as CS. PE teachers should be payed well too.

And Americans generate more trash than any other society, but I wouldn't pay the Sanitation Crew the same as an engineer....

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Kids are fat, stressed, bored, and stupid - just like adults. PE is just as important as CS. PE teachers should be payed well too.

And Americans generate more trash than any other society, but I wouldn't pay the Sanitation Crew the same as an engineer....

sanitation workers pull down some decent bank for a "low skill" occupation (not that they don't deserve it... trashman in the heat of summer would be a brutal job)

[Appaholic]

Dback is right in that there are plenty of people with CS and related degrees who can't find work. The problem isn't a shortage of folks with these degrees, though. The problem is that the universities don't teach the skills that are most applicable to today's tech industry job market. Too many programs teach high-level languages and other skills that 15-year-old computer geeks in India can do. A lot of tech giants like Bill Gates and Bjarne Stroustrup have been ranting and raving about this forever and it has fallen on deaf ears. And high school computer science education is dismal. Less than half have any kind of programming and only around 15% of high schools have AP computer science courses.

The same is true of engineering as well.

Well, insisting on paying teachers peanuts is no way to attract individuals capable of teaching such curriculum..

It's not as if Education isn't getting enough funding to pay the teachers more, they'd just rather pay for more Asst Superintendents, car allowances, spending accounts, Educational Symposiums held in exotic locales, etc.....it's not what you fund, it's what you do with the funds....

[TwinTownBisonFan]

Well, insisting on paying teachers peanuts is no way to attract individuals capable of teaching such curriculum..

It's not as if Education isn't getting enough funding to pay the teachers more, they'd just rather pay for more Asst Superintendents, car allowances, spending accounts, Educational Symposiums held in exotic locales, etc.....it's not what you fund, it's what you do with the funds....

not really accurate...

large amounts are spent on administrators to comply with federal and state testing guidelines...

[Appaholic]

It's not as if Education isn't getting enough funding to pay the teachers more, they'd just rather pay for more Asst Superintendents, car allowances, spending accounts, Educational Symposiums held in exotic locales, etc.....it's not what you fund, it's what you do with the funds....

not really accurate...

large amounts are spent on administrators to comply with federal and state testing guidelines...

....which means less for teachers, correct? So eliminate unfunded federal mandates regarding testing (& state for that matter).....

[Grizalltheway]

not really accurate...

large amounts are spent on administrators to comply with federal and state testing guidelines...

....which means less for teachers, correct? So eliminate unfunded federal mandates regarding testing (& state for that matter).....

Agree. Finland has the best primary education system in the world, without having any kind of national standardized tests.

[Ivytalk]

....which means less for teachers, correct? So eliminate unfunded federal mandates regarding testing (& state for that matter).....

Agree. Finland has the best primary education system in the world, without having any kind of national standardized tests.

Finland also has a language that's incomprehensible to anyone but other Finns. So what's your point?

[SDHornet]

This is a good idea and I have no problem with this. My question is who will fill the labor void left when the cheap labor is deported? Business owners stand to lose tons of money when they find that their workforce has been deported and not many people will be willing to do the work.

I guess an extremely bright group of people can come up with some exemptions regarding who can stay?

I've said it on here before. Of course if Americans can stay on unemployment for up to 3 years and welfare for up to 3 years they're not going to do those jobs that the illegals do. Deport the illegals, take away the extended unemployment and welfare and you'd be able to find plenty of Americans to do those jobs in agriculture, construction, landscaping, hotels, restaurants, factories, etc, etc. They would have 2 choices: Be willing to do those jobs, or starve.

I agree and have no problem with ending entitlements/welfare and essentially “forcing” people into doing these less desirable, low skill jobs. Disagree about ANY natural born US citizen who will be willing to work dawn to dusk for a few dollars an hour plus the few dollars per box/bushel/bucket of whatever crop they are harvesting. Add in the fact that many of these agricultural workers migrate hundreds of miles working to various farms during the harvest seasons and what you will find is that the farmers/landowners will be hard pressed to find people fresh off the welfare willing to do this labor.

There is a reason this illegal immigration “debate” has been ignored by politicians for so long. Our agribusiness economy had been dependant on cheap and mostly illegal labor for over a century, it ain’t changin’ anytime soon. As I pointed out in another post, if immediate deportation is going to happen, the businesses dependant on said labor will need replacements the very next day and that just won’t happen voluntarily.