I Feel Kinda Bad for the Democrats

[death dealer]

Honestly. I feel pretty bad for them. They've been waiting so long for this moment, and when it comes, they get this economy overshadowing it. It's kinda sad. They should be able to dance through the tulips and prance around in joyous ectasy, and instead they have to deal with a mess. And, given the short attention span and fickle nature of the American psyche, will likely be very unpopular this time next year when things haven't turned around to everyone's satisfaction.

It's just a little depressing to see it, even though I am not in love with BHO. My Democrat friends who have invested so much hope in him aren't able to truly enjoy this moment. And, at the same time, I can't help wondering if my Republican friends aren't secretly hoping things get worse, so that they can say "I told you so!!" to my Democrat friends. (for those of you who don't know, I am a die-hard independent. I refuse to lock step with any one ideology.)

[UNI88]

Honestly. I feel pretty bad for them. They've been waiting so long for this moment, and when it comes, they get this economy overshadowing it. It's kinda sad. They should be able to dance through the tulips and prance around in joyous ectasy, and instead they have to deal with a mess. And, given the short attention span and fickle nature of the American psyche, will likely be very unpopular this time next year when things haven't turned around to everyone's satisfaction.

It's just a little depressing to see it, even though I am not in love with BHO. My Democrat friends who have invested so much hope in him aren't able to truly enjoy this moment. And, at the same time, I can't help wondering if my Republican friends aren't secretly hoping things get worse, so that they can say "I told you so!!" to my Democrat friends. (for those of you who don't know, I am a die-hard independent. I refuse to lock step with any one ideology.)

Yeah it sucks but on the flip side, if Obama can turn this thing around he will probably go down as one of the greatest Presidents in history. The worse the situation the better the opportunity to prove your mettle and make your mark.

[AZGrizFan]

Honestly. I feel pretty bad for them. They've been waiting so long for this moment, and when it comes, they get this economy overshadowing it. It's kinda sad. They should be able to dance through the tulips and prance around in joyous ectasy, and instead they have to deal with a mess. And, given the short attention span and fickle nature of the American psyche, will likely be very unpopular this time next year when things haven't turned around to everyone's satisfaction.

It's just a little depressing to see it, even though I am not in love with BHO. My Democrat friends who have invested so much hope in him aren't able to truly enjoy this moment. And, at the same time, I can't help wondering if my Republican friends aren't secretly hoping things get worse, so that they can say "I told you so!!" to my Democrat friends. (for those of you who don't know, I am a die-hard independent. I refuse to lock step with any one ideology.)

Yeah it sucks but on the flip side, if Obama can turn this thing around he will probably go down as one of the greatest Presidents in history. The worse the situation the better the opportunity to prove your mettle and make your mark.

And when he doesn't turn it around fast enough for the average SAS American, he'll have sealed the deal and it'll be ANOTHER 200 years before AMerica elects another black president.

[D1B]

(for those of you who don't know, I am a die-hard independent. I refuse to lock step with any one ideology.)

Really?

[death dealer]

(for those of you who don't know, I am a die-hard independent. I refuse to lock step with any one ideology.)

Really?

Yeah, no shit. Seriously, I have no loyalty to any of the party's. In this past election, I voted about 50/50. Most local and state stuff, I voted Democrat. National, I abstained on some, and split the rest. Voted for a couple of "third party" guys too (even though some would say that was a wasted vote). I don't feel as if either party fully represents my beliefs, and I can't blindly follow a person, party, or ideology just out of loyalty. It's anathema to my psyche. And I don't think I'm unique. I think most people, if they were honest about it, feel the same way. They just don't have the energy, time, or knowledge to give a shit enough to act. So they vote for the guy who looks the best, talks the best, or the media tells them is the best.

[D1B]

Really?

Yeah, no shit. Seriously, I have no loyalty to any of the party's. In this past election, I voted about 50/50. Most local and state stuff, I voted Democrat. National, I abstained on some, and split the rest. Voted for a couple of "third party" guys too (even though some would say that was a wasted vote). I don't feel as if either party fully represents my beliefs, and I can't blindly follow a person, party, or ideology just out of loyalty. It's anathema to my psyche. And I don't think I'm unique. I think most people, if they were honest about it, feel the same way. They just don't have the energy, time, or knowledge to give a shit enough to act. So they vote for the guy who looks the best, talks the best, or the media tells them is the best.

One could interpret "die-hard independent" as an ideology.

I wrote in Simon Cowell (American Idol) for president.

[death dealer]

One could interpret "die-hard independent" as an ideology.

I wrote in Simon Cowell (American Idol) for president.

Well, in that sense you are correct. I guess what I should say is that I am steadfastly flexible. I've found that generally speaking, the most common trait among all politicians and elected officials regardless of party or ideology, has been their ability to disappoint.

[UNI88]

Yeah it sucks but on the flip side, if Obama can turn this thing around he will probably go down as one of the greatest Presidents in history. The worse the situation the better the opportunity to prove your mettle and make your mark.

And when he doesn't turn it around fast enough for the average SAS American, he'll have sealed the deal and it'll be ANOTHER 200 years before AMerica elects another black president.

Now you're acting like a cynic who is going to be left behind

Seriously, the glass is half full or the half empty. It's up to Obama and Congress to try and make the right decisions and hope they're right enough to turn this thing around. The pessimist in me says that they're going to screw it up while the optimist is hoping that they don't.

[AZGrizFan]

And when he doesn't turn it around fast enough for the average SAS American, he'll have sealed the deal and it'll be ANOTHER 200 years before AMerica elects another black president.

Now you're acting like a cynic who is going to be left behind

Seriously, the glass is half full or the half empty. It's up to Obama and Congress to try and make the right decisions and hope they're right enough to turn this thing around. The pessimist in me says that they're going to screw it up while the optimist is hoping that they don't.

Not cynic. Realist. There won't be another black president in my OR my kids lifetimes. Bank it. Obama is the democrats sacrificial lamb. I can see all the Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons of the world in a secret chamber, discussing the opportunity at hand: "Hey guys, I got a GREAT idea! Lets put that nigra Obama on the ticket during the worst possible scenario this county has faced in its 240-odd years of existence! That way, we can say 'hey, we TRIED a nigra as president, but it just didn't work!' and we can get back to business as usual and keep them co-dependent bitches on the government/democrat party payroll!"

[death dealer]

For selfish (and some not so selfish) reasons, I hope he is the best damn president we have ever had, and that under his administration, the U.S. prospers like nobody could expect. Please, please, please!!!

[houndawg]

Now you're acting like a cynic who is going to be left behind

Seriously, the glass is half full or the half empty. It's up to Obama and Congress to try and make the right decisions and hope they're right enough to turn this thing around. The pessimist in me says that they're going to screw it up while the optimist is hoping that they don't.

Not cynic. Realist. There won't be another black president in my OR my kids lifetimes. Bank it. Obama is the democrats sacrificial lamb. I can see all the Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons of the world in a secret chamber, discussing the opportunity at hand: "Hey guys, I got a GREAT idea! Lets put that nigra Obama on the ticket during the worst possible scenario this county has faced in its 240-odd years of existence! That way, we can say 'hey, we TRIED a nigra as president, but it just didn't work!' and we can get back to business as usual and keep them co-dependent bitches on the government/democrat party payroll!"

If he can lead us through miserable aftermath of these abysmal failures of his predecessor, (may his pecker shrivel), I may never vote again for a president who isn't black.

[death dealer]

If he can lead us through miserable aftermath of these abysmal failures of his predecessor, (may his pecker shrivel), I may never vote again for a president who isn't black.

It is a golden opportunity for him to shine. If you think about it, all of the "great ones" have served during a difficult time, and handled it well. You gotta figure that some of the other POTUS's were pretty incredible guys, they just never had an opportunity to really shine, because they didn't have an opportunity to really screw up either. It's a double edged sword. If he does well, it will take a long time for the Republicans to get even a whiff of the White House again.

But back to my original intent, I have so many friends who had such high expectations for what BHO was going to achieve on the environment, social issues, energy, etc. And to see him have to spend at least the first half of his first term ham-strung by the economy is really heart breaking. And the way he has run to the middle with his appointees has to bother a lot of the hard core liberals who suppoted him.

[Purple For Life]

Now you're acting like a cynic who is going to be left behind

Seriously, the glass is half full or the half empty. It's up to Obama and Congress to try and make the right decisions and hope they're right enough to turn this thing around. The pessimist in me says that they're going to screw it up while the optimist is hoping that they don't.

Not cynic. Realist. There won't be another black president in my OR my kids lifetimes. Bank it. Obama is the democrats sacrificial lamb. I can see all the Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons of the world in a secret chamber, discussing the opportunity at hand: "Hey guys, I got a GREAT idea! Lets put that nigra Obama on the ticket during the worst possible scenario this county has faced in its 240-odd years of existence! That way, we can say 'hey, we TRIED a nigra as president, but it just didn't work!' and we can get back to business as usual and keep them co-dependent bitches on the government/democrat party payroll!"

Well, any shred of respect I might have once had for you is GONE. Zip, zilch, nada, GONE. You are dead to me after a statement like this.

[UNI88]

Not cynic. Realist. There won't be another black president in my OR my kids lifetimes. Bank it. Obama is the democrats sacrificial lamb. I can see all the Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons of the world in a secret chamber, discussing the opportunity at hand: "Hey guys, I got a GREAT idea! Lets put that nigra Obama on the ticket during the worst possible scenario this county has faced in its 240-odd years of existence! That way, we can say 'hey, we TRIED a nigra as president, but it just didn't work!' and we can get back to business as usual and keep them co-dependent bitches on the government/democrat party payroll!"

Well, any shred of respect I might have once had for you is GONE. Zip, zilch, nada, GONE. You are dead to me after a statement like this.

PFL, me thinks that you are taking AZ far too literally. He used those words to poke fun at both the faces of the Democratic party (which as a conservative he enjoys doing) and at people who really think that way. Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons might not think like that but unfortunately there are people that do.

If Obama does fail there will be people who will blame it on his mixed racial heritage and use it as an excuse not to vote for another person of color. While I have serious concerns I do hope he succeeds and AZ despite his rhetoric probably does as well. He's just a lot more skeptical than I am.

[AZGrizFan]

Well, any shred of respect I might have once had for you is GONE. Zip, zilch, nada, GONE. You are dead to me after a statement like this.

PFL, me thinks that you are taking AZ far too literally. He used those words to poke fun at both the faces of the Democratic party (which as a conservative he enjoys doing) and at people who really think that way. Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons might not think like that but unfortunately there are people that do.

If Obama does fail there will be people who will blame it on his mixed racial heritage and use it as an excuse not to vote for another person of color. While I have serious concerns I do hope he succeeds and AZ despite his rhetoric probably does as well. He's just a lot more skeptical than I am.

Thanks, UNI. Apparently you have to have a brain stem to understand my posts. Personally, I really don't CARE if PFL respects me, but if she thinks there AREN'T people thinking/wishing that exact scenario onto Obama in her party, she's living in la-la land.

[Purple For Life]

Well, any shred of respect I might have once had for you is GONE. Zip, zilch, nada, GONE. You are dead to me after a statement like this.

PFL, me thinks that you are taking AZ far too literally. He used those words to poke fun at both the faces of the Democratic party (which as a conservative he enjoys doing) and at people who really think that way. Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons might not think like that but unfortunately there are people that do.

If Obama does fail there will be people who will blame it on his mixed racial heritage and use it as an excuse not to vote for another person of color. While I have serious concerns I do hope he succeeds and AZ despite his rhetoric probably does as well. He's just a lot more skeptical than I am.

Well, I don't think being racist, even to poke fun, is funny. It won't solve anything. That's the problem with the older generation (yeah, I said it). I don't think making jokes about ethnicity is funny.

[Purple For Life]

PFL, me thinks that you are taking AZ far too literally. He used those words to poke fun at both the faces of the Democratic party (which as a conservative he enjoys doing) and at people who really think that way. Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons might not think like that but unfortunately there are people that do.

If Obama does fail there will be people who will blame it on his mixed racial heritage and use it as an excuse not to vote for another person of color. While I have serious concerns I do hope he succeeds and AZ despite his rhetoric probably does as well. He's just a lot more skeptical than I am.

Thanks, UNI. Apparently you have to have a brain stem to understand my posts. Personally, I really don't CARE if PFL respects me, but if she thinks there AREN'T people thinking/wishing that exact scenario onto Obama in her party, she's living in la-la land.

Hey asshole, I have a brain stem--I have enough sense not to make racist jokes for humor's sake.

[UNI88]

PFL, me thinks that you are taking AZ far too literally. He used those words to poke fun at both the faces of the Democratic party (which as a conservative he enjoys doing) and at people who really think that way. Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons might not think like that but unfortunately there are people that do.

If Obama does fail there will be people who will blame it on his mixed racial heritage and use it as an excuse not to vote for another person of color. While I have serious concerns I do hope he succeeds and AZ despite his rhetoric probably does as well. He's just a lot more skeptical than I am.

Well, I don't think being racist, even to poke fun, is funny. It won't solve anything. That's the problem with the older generation (yeah, I said it). I don't think making jokes about ethnicity is funny.

But it's ok to stereotype someone based on their age?

PFL, I logged on with the intention of stating that maybe you were joking as well but I guess that isn't the case (it would have been hilarious if you'd pulled the wool over both AZ's and my eyes).

We'll just have to agree to disagree. AZ might be an azzhole on occasion (we all can) but I don't think he's a racist. IMO he was mocking racists. You might not think so or you might not think it was funny or appropriate and that's your right. I however believe that humor can be effective in helping to shine a spotlight on a problem.

[Rabbit3467]

PFL,
Age has nothing to do with anything you are even trying to comprehend. There are plenty of young people in the US that would totally disagree with any position you try make everyone feel is correct. The greatest part of this country is that we dont have to agree with everything that ultraliberal dems, such as yourself, are trying to pour on this country. I can agree that Bush didnt do everything correct, but can see through the BS that Obama is the savior. We are a democratic country with free enterprise that was manipulated by giving loans to people that couldnt afford them. This WAS implemented by the democrat president Clinton. Obviously it wasn't corrected in time by Bush and the economy is suffering. Heaven forbid people should be able to pay for they're loans. Now we want socialism. I work in health care and the biggest problem is MEDICARE/MEDICAID. It decides what it will pay for any situation, which is usually to low to pay for the cost of treatment, then private health insurance says we are gonna pay what the government does, only fair. SO we are all FUCKED. Lets implement national health care, then we can all get screwed. Look at Cananda, if you fuck up your knee and cant walk decent, just wait a year, or two, and they will fix it (if you think this is a lie talk to a Canadian). Or in the US, I can have the same problem fixed in less than a month. Good news is if you have a heart attack they can see you in two to three weeks.

So from my Aussie friends, PISS OFF, AZG your a good man.

BTW, Im 28 and can think for myself, thank you very much.

[travelinman67]

PFL, me thinks that you are taking AZ far too literally. He used those words to poke fun at both the faces of the Democratic party (which as a conservative he enjoys doing) and at people who really think that way. Kennedy/Kerry/Edwards/Clintons might not think like that but unfortunately there are people that do.

If Obama does fail there will be people who will blame it on his mixed racial heritage and use it as an excuse not to vote for another person of color. While I have serious concerns I do hope he succeeds and AZ despite his rhetoric probably does as well. He's just a lot more skeptical than I am.

Well, I don't think being racist, even to poke fun, is funny. It won't solve anything. That's the problem with the older generation (yeah, I said it). I don't think making jokes about ethnicity is funny.

PFL, you may not understand this, but by action, the Democratic Party and "elitist liberals" are the real racists in contemporary society. You are being gullible if you feel that the liberal leaders (Daschle(white), Pelosi(white), Reid(white), McAuliffe(white), Dean(white), Axelrod(white), Clinton(white), Feinstein(white), Soros(white), Emmanuel(white), Jarrett(white), Waxman(white), Byrd(white), Kennedy(white), Schumer(white), Boxer(white), Bloomberg(RINO,white), Biden(white), Dodd(white), and on and on, are sincere civil rights activists. They only embrace African Americans when they are seeking political gains (votes). The evidence is so abundant, it's ludicrous to suggest otherwise.

[ASUMountaineer]

I'm a big fan of Mencia and Chappelle, I guess that makes me diversified. But, they make jokes about race for humor's sake, so I guess that makes me a racists...I'm so confused...


Well, not really. I think humor goes a long way in helping us cure our ills. People like Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy helped bring black culture to white society. Sports, IMO, has been the biggest bridge between the races in America. So, I root for black athletes, listen to black music (jazz, blues), and enjoy black comedians...I must be a raving racist, although that is completely not true. The real racists are the ones that would continue wishing the black population feel as victims.

[Purple For Life]

PFL,
Age has nothing to do with anything you are even trying to comprehend. There are plenty of young people in the US that would totally disagree with any position you try make everyone feel is correct. The greatest part of this country is that we dont have to agree with everything that ultraliberal dems, such as yourself, are trying to pour on this country. I can agree that Bush didnt do everything correct, but can see through the BS that Obama is the savior. We are a democratic country with free enterprise that was manipulated by giving loans to people that couldnt afford them. This WAS implemented by the democrat president Clinton. Obviously it wasn't corrected in time by Bush and the economy is suffering. Heaven forbid people should be able to pay for they're loans. Now we want socialism. I work in health care and the biggest problem is MEDICARE/MEDICAID. It decides what it will pay for any situation, which is usually to low to pay for the cost of treatment, then private health insurance says we are gonna pay what the government does, only fair. SO we are all f**k[*]. Lets implement national health care, then we can all get screwed. Look at Cananda, if you [*]f**k up your knee and cant walk decent, just wait a year, or two, and they will fix it (if you think this is a lie talk to a Canadian). Or in the US, I can have the same problem fixed in less than a month. Good news is if you have a heart attack they can see you in two to three weeks.

So from my Aussie friends, PISS OFF, AZG your a good man.

BTW, Im 28 and can think for myself, thank you very much.

Um...did I say that I thought Obama was a saint? Hell no.

And at this point, since I practically can't eat without puking, and I've lost ten pounds that I didn't have to lose, I'd take any health care over none at this point.

FYI--I'm 29. Just for a point of reference.