Zimmerman is being RACE Railroaded

[Ibanez]

Then take this into account and dont fu*k with people. Its really that simple.....if you dont prepare to suffer the consequences.

I agree. But in this case it was Zimmerman who chose to carry and it was Zimmerman who chose to follow Martin. It was Martin who suffered the consequences.

Yeah, but in Florida, that sort of sense doesn't work. These people let Casey Anthony off the hook.

[Cap'n Cat]

I agree. But in this case it was Zimmerman who chose to carry and it was Zimmerman who chose to follow Martin. It was Martin who suffered the consequences.

Yeah, but in Florida, that sort of sense doesn't work. These people let Casey Anthony off the hook.

She was completely fvcking innocent. And, yes, I wanna fvck her.

[Ibanez]

Yeah, but in Florida, that sort of sense doesn't work. These people let Casey Anthony off the hook.

She was completely fvcking innocent. And, yes, I wanna fvck her.

No. Maybe not intentional, but she did have an involvment with that childs death. Normal human and mother behaviour was NOT exhibited by her. The entire trial was a circus with her batshit crazy defense team.

[Cap'n Cat]

She was completely fvcking innocent. And, yes, I wanna fvck her.

No. Maybe not intentional, but she did have an involvment with that childs death. Normal human and mother behaviour was NOT exhibited by her. The entire trial was a circus with her batshit crazy defense team.

The Cap'n doesn't really care about her, but He'd-a fvcked her in her party doll phase!

[CID1990]

No. Maybe not intentional, but she did have an involvment with that childs death. Normal human and mother behaviour was NOT exhibited by her. The entire trial was a circus with her batshit crazy defense team.

The Cap'n doesn't really care about her, but He'd-a fvcked her in her party doll phase!

We know, Cap, we know.

You would probably tap Maggie Thatcher in her dementia stage, so it goes without saying.

[Cap'n Cat]

The Cap'n doesn't really care about her, but He'd-a fvcked her in her party doll phase!

We know, Cap, we know.

You would probably tap Maggie Thatcher in her dementia stage, so it goes without saying.

[Baldy]

Says the guy who doesn't know a damn thing about "down there".

One need not live somewhere to appreciate a particular place's ambience and history. For example, you know what it's like to live in Minnesota, very generally. Almost the same of living there, just no palm trees and Southern drawl. There are people who don't like our melanin-enhanced brothers and sisters in both places.

And, fvck, hounder lives just a few miles from Arkansas, a few miles from Tennessee and across the river from Kentucky, so I'm sure he knows quite a bit about "down there".

Don't assume, my Eagle Brother.

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That's the problem, neither you nor dawg knows. The truth is there are probably more southern drawls in southern Illinois and Missouri than in Central Florida. Again, no clue about anything or anyone from "down there".

Wrong as hell, but I understand what you're trying to say.

[Cap'n Cat]

One need not live somewhere to appreciate a particular place's ambience and history. For example, you know what it's like to live in Minnesota, very generally. Almost the same of living there, just no palm trees and Southern drawl. There are people who don't like our melanin-enhanced brothers and sisters in both places.

And, fvck, hounder lives just a few miles from Arkansas, a few miles from Tennessee and across the river from Kentucky, so I'm sure he knows quite a bit about "down there".

Don't assume, my Eagle Brother.

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That's the problem, neither you nor dawg knows. The truth is there are probably more southern drawls in southern Illinois and Missouri than in Central Florida. Again, no clue about anything or anyone from "down there".

Wrong as hell, but I understand what you're trying to say.

Man, bitch, you got McDonalds, we got McDonalds. Enough said. It's called "Generica". Same shit happens everywhere. Places are only "special" to immediate inhabitants.

[dbackjon]

Usually there's three stories....the accuser, the defendant and the truth.

Unfortunately we'll only have two here - the defendant and the truth.

Do we know that is Zimmerman?

And not a deep wound - head scratches tend to bleed profusely.

And Even if Trayvon DID slam his head to the ground, it doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman STALKED, chased, and harassed Martin. Zimmerman is 100% at fault here.

[BDKJMU]

Usually there's three stories....the accuser, the defendant and the truth.

Unfortunately we'll only have two here - the defendant and the truth.

Do we know that is Zimmerman?

And not a deep wound - head scratches tend to bleed profusely.

And Even if Trayvon DID slam his head to the ground, it doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman STALKED, chased, and harassed Martin. Zimmerman is 100% at fault here.

Yeah, everytime you follow someone for any reason you are stalking, chasing and harrassing them.

Saying Zimmerman is 100% at fault like you were there and know exactly what happened just makes you look like a dumba**.

[YoUDeeMan]

Do we know that is Zimmerman?

And not a deep wound - head scratches tend to bleed profusely.

And Even if Trayvon DID slam his head to the ground, it doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman STALKED, chased, and harassed Martin. Zimmerman is 100% at fault here.

Hey, dback...do we know if Trayvon threw a powdered drug at Zimmerman causing him to forget that Trayvon pulled a 9mm and unleashed a vicious pit bull from under his hoodie? Zimmerman's lightning reflexes allowed him to escape by drilling the dog and Trayvon with one shot. Of course, the dog was only winged, but seeing his master dead, he was trained to return to the hood with the drugs and the 9mm. It's too late now, but if the cops had checked the blood, they would have found the dog's DNA and some better evidence. Stupid cops.

"STALKED"? "chased"? "harrassed"?



The only thing we know Zimmerman is guilty of is following someone while asking the police to check out a stranger. Is that a crime?

IS THAT A CRIME?

If that is all Zimmerman did, and that is the only thing we know so far, did he deserved to get bum rushed and beaten by an overly aggressive teenager?

If you are suddenly jumped and beaten by a teenager, and you fear for your life, what do you do?

Fact is, we don't know what happened. Zimmerman could be a whack job, white...I mean, Hispanic, racist itching to kill anyone who doesn't look like him. But to say that Zimmerman "STALKED", "chased", and "harassed" Trayvon, and that his actions somehow justify a head slamming ("even if"...Zimmerman is 100% at fault" - quite a statement) is ridiculous.

Following someone, especially some stranger in your neighborhood, is not a crime.

[DSUrocks07]

Following someone, especially some stranger in your neighborhood, is not a crime.

Just your friendly "Neighborhood Watch"

[blueballs]

And Even if Trayvon DID slam his head to the ground, it doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman STALKED, chased, and harassed Martin. Zimmerman is 100% at fault here.

Says who??? Al Sharpton???

We don't know what happened because nothing has been presented as evidence, scrutinized, and finally cross examined. All we know currently is what somebody in the media or a propagandist THINKS happened.

The truth will come out soon enough...

[BlueHen86]

Do we know that is Zimmerman?

And not a deep wound - head scratches tend to bleed profusely.

And Even if Trayvon DID slam his head to the ground, it doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman STALKED, chased, and harassed Martin. Zimmerman is 100% at fault here.

Yeah, everytime you follow someone for any reason you are stalking, chasing and harrassing them.

Saying Zimmerman is 100% at fault like you were there and know exactly what happened just makes you look like a dumba**.

Maybe not everytime, but certainly in this case. If you follow someone enough that they notice it and are uncomfortable, and then continue to follow when they try to get away you're stalking, chasing and harassing them. You're trying too hard to give Zimmerman a pass here. Are you related to him?

[BlueHen86]

And Even if Trayvon DID slam his head to the ground, it doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman STALKED, chased, and harassed Martin. Zimmerman is 100% at fault here.

Says who??? Al Sharpton???

We don't know what happened because nothing has been presented as evidence, scrutinized, and finally cross examined. All we know currently is what somebody in the media or a propagandist THINKS happened.

The truth will come out soon enough...

Zimmerman's irresponsible actions led to the death of an unarmed teenager. I don't know what that will get him in court, but he is 100% responsible.

[YoUDeeMan]

Says who??? Al Sharpton???

We don't know what happened because nothing has been presented as evidence, scrutinized, and finally cross examined. All we know currently is what somebody in the media or a propagandist THINKS happened.

The truth will come out soon enough...

Zimmerman's irresponsible actions led to the death of an unarmed teenager. I don't know what that will get him in court, but he is 100% responsible.

Nonsense. Following someone (while on the phone with the police), especially if you think they are up to no good (right or wrong), is not a crime...nor is it irresponsible.

What happened in between Zimmerman's call and the shooting is unknown for now and may never be known.

However, according to Zimmerman, he was walking back to his car and Trayvon jumped him and beat him. If so, Zimmerman should walk, because the fault is 100% with Trayvon because he decided to initiate a physical confrontation. Under no circumstances should someone get jumped and beaten just because they are following someone else. Trayvon should have kept walking and called the police, instead of his girlfriend, to let them know he was being followed and felt threatened.

Now, if Zimmerman followed Trayvon and whipped out a gun to play cowboy, then he deserved to be attacked as Trayvon would be defending himself...and Zimmerman should fry.

Maybe we'll find out what happened, maybe we won't. But to say that Zimmerman is the one who is 100% responsible for Trayvon's death is silly.

[BlueHen86]

Zimmerman's irresponsible actions led to the death of an unarmed teenager. I don't know what that will get him in court, but he is 100% responsible.

Nonsense. Following someone (while on the phone with the police), especially if you think they are up to no good (right or wrong), is not a crime...nor is it irresponsible.

What happened in between Zimmerman's call and the shooting is unknown for now and may never be known.

However, according to Zimmerman, he was walking back to his car and Trayvon jumped him and beat him. If so, Zimmerman should walk, because the fault is 100% with Trayvon because he decided to initiate a physical confrontation. Under no circumstances should someone get jumped and beaten just because they are following someone else. Trayvon should have kept walking and called the police, instead of his girlfriend, to let them know he was being followed and felt threatened.

Now, if Zimmerman followed Trayvon and whipped out a gun to play cowboy, then he deserved to be attacked as Trayvon would be defending himself...and Zimmerman should fry.

Maybe we'll find out what happened, maybe we won't. But to say that Zimmerman is the one who is 100% responsible for Trayvon's death is silly.

Arming yourself, playing cop and then having to shoot someone because you got in over your head is irresponsible. Zimmerman may not be a criminal, but he is guilty of being a dumbass. Had Zimmerman acted responsibilily he would not have had to shoot Martin.

If Zimmerman had called the police and then continued on to run his errands then I would agree with you, but he continued to follow Martin, even after he was told it wasn't necessary by the 9-1-1 operator and after Martin was aware that Zimmerman was following him.

[YoUDeeMan]

Arming yourself, playing cop and then having to shoot someone because you got in over your head is irresponsible. Zimmerman may not be a criminal, but he is guilty of being a dumbass. Had Zimmerman acted responsibilily he would not have had to shoot Martin.

If Zimmerman had called the police and then continued on to run his errands then I would agree with you, but he continued to follow Martin, even after he was told it wasn't necessary by the 9-1-1 operator and after Martin was aware that Zimmerman was following him.

Let's break this down a bit:

1) Are you saying that arming yourself is irresponsible? If so, then we know where you stand.
2) "playing cop" - are you saying all neighborhood watch people, you know, people who are watching their neighborhoods, are irresponsible? Anyone who sees a suspicious person, and reports them to police, is irresponsible? Oh, wait, people should just report things and then go about their business...because you just know the police are there whenever you need them. In fact, I bet that there isn't a single incident that ended well where a person followed a suspect.

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Wait, you mean someone actually played cop and followed up on a hunch...instead of just calling it in and going about their errands?

Wonder what would have happened to this good citizen if the driver of the truck, with or without the girl, had gotten out and jumped the citizen and started banging his head on the ground because he was, you know, in over his head? What if the citizen felt he had to shoot the driver? BlueHen86 would have tld him that he was irresponsible.

Too funny.

No, following someone and "playing cop" isn't irresponsible. Being armed isn't irresponsible.

Attacking someone is irresponsible. Whether Zimmerman attacked Trayvon, or whether Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, is the issue. The only issue.

[clenz]

If being a dumbass is a crime 90 percent of America should fry

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[BDKJMU]

Yeah, everytime you follow someone for any reason you are stalking, chasing and harrassing them.

Saying Zimmerman is 100% at fault like you were there and know exactly what happened just makes you look like a dumba**.

Maybe not everytime, but certainly in this case. If you follow someone enough that they notice it and are uncomfortable, and then continue to follow when they try to get away you're stalking, chasing and harassing them. You're trying too hard to give Zimmerman a pass here. Are you related to him?

If, IF, IF. You have no idea if that's how it went down or not.

I'm not giving him a pass. He might be guilty of something. He might not be guilty of something. I'm just pointing out that someone who wasn't there, doesn't know all the facts, yet says Zimmerman is 100% at fault here is a retard.

[kalm]

Arming yourself, playing cop and then having to shoot someone because you got in over your head is irresponsible. Zimmerman may not be a criminal, but he is guilty of being a dumbass. Had Zimmerman acted responsibilily he would not have had to shoot Martin.

If Zimmerman had called the police and then continued on to run his errands then I would agree with you, but he continued to follow Martin, even after he was told it wasn't necessary by the 9-1-1 operator and after Martin was aware that Zimmerman was following him.

Let's break this down a bit:

1) Are you saying that arming yourself is irresponsible? If so, then we know where you stand.
2) "playing cop" - are you saying all neighborhood watch people, you know, people who are watching their neighborhoods, are irresponsible? Anyone who sees a suspicious person, and reports them to police, is irresponsible? Oh, wait, people should just report things and then go about their business...because you just know the police are there whenever you need them. In fact, I bet that there isn't a single incident that ended well where a person followed a suspect.

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Wait, you mean someone actually played cop and followed up on a hunch...instead of just calling it in and going about their errands?

Wonder what would have happened to this good citizen if the driver of the truck, with or without the girl, had gotten out and jumped the citizen and started banging his head on the ground because he was, you know, in over his head? What if the citizen felt he had to shoot the driver? BlueHen86 would have tld him that he was irresponsible.

Too funny.

No, following someone and "playing cop" isn't irresponsible. Being armed isn't irresponsible.

Attacking someone is irresponsible. Whether Zimmerman attacked Trayvon, or whether Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, is the issue. The only issue.

You're making some valid points here but I'm guessing most cops would disagree with the notion that playing cop in the case of George Zimmerman is not irresponsible. Especially considering how many 911 calls he had made and the fact that he didn't drop of pursuit. Guys like him are dangerous and a pain in the ass to professional law enforcement. It takes more than just handling a weapon to be a cop and/or keep your neighborhood safe.

[death dealer]

You're making some valid points here but I'm guessing most cops would disagree with the notion that playing cop in the case of George Zimmerman is not irresponsible. Especially considering how many 911 calls he had made and the fact that he didn't drop of pursuit. Guys like him are dangerous and a pain in the ass to professional law enforcement. It takes more than just handling a weapon to be a cop and/or keep your neighborhood safe.

This.

It was just a matter of time with Zimmerman. If his story is true, then according to the letter of the law, he walks. That does not mean that he isn't responsible for the way it went down. I am very well aquainted with law enforcement officers all the way from the local city police level to FBI, Secret Service, and DEA agents who are either close friends or relatives, and to the man they will tell you that in a case like this, if they had to draw their weapon, they would consider that a failure on their part to handle the situation properly. The pros rarely have to use their weapons.

[Appaholic]

The pros rarely have to use their weapons.

Unless you go to the wrong house and shoot the owner's dog after surprising him while he walked out to his truck parked in his driveway in the middle of the day...viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29963

[death dealer]

The pros rarely have to use their weapons.

Unless you go to the wrong house and shoot the owner's dog after surprising him while he walked out to his truck parked in his driveway in the middle of the day...viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29963

I think the first word in the title of that thread covers the disclaimer to my post. I make no excuses for idiots. Thus my opinion of Zimmerman.

Now, don't take my opinion on Zimms as a stance against gun ownership. Anyone who knows me, knows I own way too many guns. It's funny though, I have literally never gone into a gun shop with the intention of buying a gun. Every single one of my gun purchases were sort of accidental/impulse buys. It's a damn good thing they don't have them lined up at the check-out stand at the grocery store!

[death dealer]

And not a deep wound - head scratches tend to bleed profusely.

He's right. Having sutured several head lacs, that is a very minor little cut. Head lacs bleed like a motherfucker. That little bit of blood would equate to a very shallow minor cut. But if the guy was slamming his head into the ground, you'd expect a different look. More of a contusion type wound. That almost looks self inflicted with some sort of blade.