GOP - Fetal Masturbation is reason to ban abortion

[JohnStOnge]

So why is OK to kill an individual if they can't feel pain anyway? You know there are post natal people that can't feel pain. I guess that means it's OK to kill them?

Abortion should be outlawed in cases other than when a choice is being made between the life of the mother and the life of the unborn individual (i.e., one or the other is going to have to die) because it's killing an innocent individual member of our species. All this stuff about feeling pain, having a heartbeat, etc., is irrelevant.

[CID1990]

PP's primary service is abortion. You can sugar coat it all you want with the ancillary services they do provide, but their bailiwick is abortion. Poor women don't go there unless they have an unwanted pregnancy or they have the clap. Period.


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[Ibanez]

PP's primary service is abortion. You can sugar coat it all you want with the ancillary services they do provide, but their bailiwick is abortion. Poor women don't go there unless they have an unwanted pregnancy or they have the clap. Period.


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Duh. People aren't going to PP for migraines and IBS.

[kalm]

PP's primary service is abortion. You can sugar coat it all you want with the ancillary services they do provide, but their bailiwick is abortion. Poor women don't go there unless they have an unwanted pregnancy or they have the clap. Period.


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Duh. People aren't going to PP for migraines and IBS.

But both of those can be sexually related.

[kalm]

Btw, I don't know what's worse, that this idiot is a doctor or a congressman.

[CAA Flagship]

Btw, I don't know what's worse, that this idiot is a doctor or a congressman.

Neither. It's that he is allowed to vote AND be voted for.

[89Hen]

Perhaps the longest stretch you've ever had to make a partisan comment Jon. Congrats!

[dbackjon]

Perhaps the longest stretch you've ever had to make a partisan comment Jon. Congrats!

How so?

I didn't make the comment - an anti-abortion GOP Congressman DID. How is that a stretch?

[89Hen]

Perhaps the longest stretch you've ever had to make a partisan comment Jon. Congrats!

How so?

I didn't make the comment - an anti-abortion GOP Congressman DID. How is that a stretch?

What comment did he make? That if a fetus can feel pleasure it probably can feel pain? You really think that's the same as implying that fetal masturbation is a reason to ban abortion? Please.

[dbackjon]

How so?

I didn't make the comment - an anti-abortion GOP Congressman DID. How is that a stretch?

What comment did he make? That if a fetus can feel pleasure it probably can feel pain? You really think that's the same as implying that fetal masturbation is a reason to ban abortion? Please.

So what was he referring to with the hand between the legs...

[CID1990]

What comment did he make? That if a fetus can feel pleasure it probably can feel pain? You really think that's the same as implying that fetal masturbation is a reason to ban abortion? Please.

So what was he referring to with the hand between the legs...

Infants have a genital and anal stage in their development. The groin area is very sensitive and infants as well as the unborn stimulate themselves in various ways. I think the point made was rather matter of fact. To try to turn it into something it's not is just partisan.

Are you trying to say that humanizing unborn fetuses is bad?


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[D1B]

PP's primary service is abortion. You can sugar coat it all you want with the ancillary services they do provide, but their bailiwick is abortion. Poor women don't go there unless they have an unwanted pregnancy or they have the clap. Period.


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[D1B]

PP's primary service is abortion. You can sugar coat it all you want with the ancillary services they do provide, but their bailiwick is abortion. Poor women don't go there unless they have an unwanted pregnancy or they have the clap. Period.


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From Politifact

Planned Parenthood calculates the numbers by services provided, rather than dollars spent. In a fact sheet last updated in March 2011, the group lists the following breakdown of its services:

Contraception (including reversible contraception, emergency contraception, vasectomies and tubal sterilizations): 4,009,549 services

Sexually transmitted infections testing and treatment: 3,955,916 services

Cancer screening and prevention: 1,830,811 services

Other women’s health services (including pregnancy tests and prenatal care): 1,178,369 services

Abortions: 332,278 procedures

Miscellaneous (including primary care and adoption referrals): 76,977

Total services: 11,383,900

By this tally, abortions accounted for just under 3 percent of the procedures Planned Parenthood provided in 2009, which is the most recent year for which the group is reporting statistics. And that would make Kyl’s statement way off.

We should note a few caveats.

First, we think many people would acknowledge a difference between providing an abortion and, say, handing out a pack of condoms or conducting a blood test. The former is a significant surgical procedure, whereas the latter are quick and inexpensive services. So Planned Parenthood’s use of "services" as its yardstick likely decreases abortion’s prominence compared to what other measurements would show. Using dollars spent or hours devoted to patient care would likely put abortion above 3 percent in the calculations.

Second, it’s worth noting that Planned Parenthood self-reported these numbers, although the group says each affiliate’s numbers are independently audited. (There is no single, national audit.) So we have no choice but to accept their accuracy more or less on faith.

Still, even with those caveats, we do think that Kyl has vastly overstated the share of abortions.

We checked with Kyl’s office but did not hear back. However, a few hours after the speech, CNN anchor T.J. Holmes told viewers that the network had received a statement from Kyl’s office saying that the senator’s remark "was not intended to be a factual statement but rather to illustrate that Planned Parenthood, an organization that receives millions in taxpayer dollars, does subsidize abortions." Asshole Conks talking out their assholes again.

The statistics from Planned Parenthood and the statement from Kyl's office make it clear that he erred by saying abortion counts for well over 90 percent of the group's services. We find his claim False.

[UNI88]

Asshole Conks talking out their assholes again.

I believe that I'm classified as a Conk and think PP provides some very valuable services. Everyone might not agree with everything that they do but IMO the country would be worse off without them.

Of course, I'm a wishy-washy, jello-mold, milquetoast sort of Conk though.

[89Hen]

What comment did he make? That if a fetus can feel pleasure it probably can feel pain? You really think that's the same as implying that fetal masturbation is a reason to ban abortion? Please.

So what was he referring to with the hand between the legs...

So you're going to stick with "fetal masterbations is the reason to ban abortion" as what he said and not "if a fetus can feel pleasure it probably can feel pain"?

[CID1990]

Asshole Conks talking out their assholes again.

I believe that I'm classified as a Conk and think PP provides some very valuable services. Everyone might not agree with everything that they do but IMO the country would be worse off without them.

Of course, I'm a wishy-washy, jello-mold, milquetoast sort of Conk though.

I don't have a problem with PP, either. They provide a service, not a big deal.

I just have an ethical problem with abortion- particularly late term abortion. It is legal, so that's that. But at least I can delineate exactly what I disagree with without having to rename things to make them more palatable, or twist in the wind trying to reconcile the unreconcilable.


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[DSUrocks07]

Wendy Davis, Texas State Senator, is currently filibustering the bill. She's been going since 11:18 (CST) this morning.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-575 ... tion-bill/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q8Hr0O20LY[/youtube]

[eagleskins]

The sheer lunacy of the republican party is beyond outrageous. This loon actually has constituents on board with his comments.

[93henfan]

[89Hen]

The sheer lunacy of the republican party is beyond outrageous. This loon actually has constituents on board with his comments.

Please explain the lunacy of his comments.

[89Hen]

The sheer lunacy of the republican party is beyond outrageous. This loon actually has constituents on board with his comments.

Please explain the lunacy of his comments.

That's what I thought.

[93henfan]

Fecal masturbation?

WTF?

That's disgusting!