Jamie Foxx-vs-Miley Cyrus

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Foxx has since apologised for his rant.

He told American talk show host Jay Leno: "I so apologise, and this is sincere - I am a comedian, and you guys know that whatever I say, I don't mean any of it, and sometimes, as comedians, as we do, we go a little bit too far."

Good for him. Sounds sincere to me, a comedian that took it too far.

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1. Don Imus was on a nationaly syndicated show on CBS radio- FREE radio. Jamie Foxx's show is on Sirius radio, which you have to purchase to hear. There is a different standard for that.

Opie and Anthony were on XM radio on an XL channel and gpt a 30 dau suspension for comments that were deemed racial toward Condi Rice. They had not made the comments, a guest did.

2. Jamie Foxx didn't call Mylie a white b**ch, Claudia Jordan did. Claudia is obviuosly female. For those out of the loop, Claudia is a model, she's on Deal or no Deal.

The guest was a homeless guy known as "homeless Charlie" that was an extremely funny black guy.

3. The show is a comedy show. I don't like it, because I think it goes WAY too far (believe me, much worse things have been said than what was said about Mylie), but it is a comedy none the less. Imus tries to be some sort of political and social commentator, which puts him in another context.

Their show is a comedy show and as you said it is not for everyone but some of us enjoy different kinds of humor and I'm glad to see that you don't begrudge others for the freedom to listen to some over the top comedy. Imus had a show as you described but it was also a comedic take as much as the elements that you described. He made fun of everybody for many years, EVERYBODy.
4. The context of the argument was not racial, a barely audible racial comment was made in the background. Don Imus INTENTIONALLY, contextually, made racial and sexist insults.

I have to say that it was every bit as intentional on Fox's show as it was on Imus' show. Claudia was on a mic and it was as audible as any other person in the discussion. I agree on the part about Imus continually making the remarks you stated. He did it for many years...off the cuff as these shows do. I said in the earlier point that he made fun of everyone.

5. Mylie is a celebrity, the Rutgers basketball team was not.[/quote]

Nothing to refute here as it's a solid point.

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Foxx has since apologised for his rant.

He told American talk show host Jay Leno: "I so apologise, and this is sincere - I am a comedian, and you guys know that whatever I say, I don't mean any of it, and sometimes, as comedians, as we do, we go a little bit too far."

Good for him. Sounds sincere to me, a comedian that took it too far.

Well it's just a difference of opinion between us OL FU but I think that comedians should be allowed to make mistakes and push things a little because it does sometimes get good conversations stirred up like this. If a comedian takes things too far for someone then it is an easy task to not buy their products or listen to them. I'm against groups of people saying what others should listen to and enjoy unless it is the artists own fans that let them know they are unappreciated though the normal channel...their pocketbook.

Should he have apologized? Maybe, I'm not so sure but I do know that Imus not only apologized but went on Al Sharpton's show and took a beating and was still put through the ringer even after that. As I said before nothing should happen to Jamie Fox for trying to put on an entertainig show for his audience. There is just too much "false outrage" over every little thing someone in the spot light says in an off the cuff remark on comedy shows.

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Good for him. Sounds sincere to me, a comedian that took it too far.

Well it's just a difference of opinion between us OL FU but I think that comedians should be allowed to make mistakes and push things a little because it does sometimes get good conversations stirred up like this. If a comedian takes things too far for someone then it is an easy task to not buy their products or listen to them. I'm against groups of people saying what others should listen to and enjoy unless it is the artists own fans that let them know they are unappreciated though the normal channel...their pocketbook.

Should he have apologized? Maybe, I'm not so sure but I do know that Imus not only apologized but went on Al Sharpton's show and took a beating and was still put through the ringer even after that. As I said before nothing should happen to Jamie Fox for trying to put on an entertainig show for his audience. There is just too much "false outrage" over every little thing someone in the spot light says in an off the cuff remark on comedy shows.

I don't think we have a difference of opinion on what Foxx should be allowed to do. At the same time, people that think he was over the top should have the right to say he was over the top. I never said people shouldn't listen to him or he should be taken off the air. I simply said the comment was uncalled for and way out of line. I don't know Foxx and I don't know Cyrus. I don't particularly think that she is more than kid with daddy connections that was in the right spot at the right time for the Disney marketing machine to take her to the top. But that certainly doesn't mean that I think it is appropriate to in a public setting to make a joke about saying a 16 year kid should do a sex movie and take crack cocaine. Do I think Foxx should be punished for it. No, unless his listeners decide it was over the top and turn off his show. My opinion plan and simple.

Should he have apologized? That is up to him. I know I have said things to people that I later regretted. I said them in a group I was with was on a roll with off color jokes and the words popped out of my mouth while the group was rolling. Did I have a right to say it, yes? Was it funny when I said it, yes? did I regret saying it after things slowed down and I realized it was inappropriate, yes. Did I apologise? many times yes.

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Well it's just a difference of opinion between us OL FU but I think that comedians should be allowed to make mistakes and push things a little because it does sometimes get good conversations stirred up like this. If a comedian takes things too far for someone then it is an easy task to not buy their products or listen to them. I'm against groups of people saying what others should listen to and enjoy unless it is the artists own fans that let them know they are unappreciated though the normal channel...their pocketbook.

Should he have apologized? Maybe, I'm not so sure but I do know that Imus not only apologized but went on Al Sharpton's show and took a beating and was still put through the ringer even after that. As I said before nothing should happen to Jamie Fox for trying to put on an entertainig show for his audience. There is just too much "false outrage" over every little thing someone in the spot light says in an off the cuff remark on comedy shows.

I don't think we have a difference of opinion on what Foxx should be allowed to do. At the same time, people that think he was over the top should have the right to say he was over the top. I never said people shouldn't listen to him or he should be taken off the air. I simply said the comment was uncalled for and way out of line. I don't know Foxx and I don't know Cyrus. I don't particularly think that she is more than kid with daddy connections that was in the right spot at the right time for the Disney marketing machine to take her to the top. But that certainly doesn't mean that I think it is appropriate to in a public setting to make a joke about saying a 16 year kid should do a sex movie and take crack cocaine. Do I think Foxx should be punished for it. No, unless his listeners decide it was over the top and turn off his show. My opinion plan and simple.

Should he have apologized? That is up to him. I know I have said things to people that I later regretted. I said them in a group I was with was on a roll with off color jokes and the words popped out of my mouth while the group was rolling. Did I have a right to say it, yes? Was it funny when I said it, yes? did I regret saying it after things slowed down and I realized it was inappropriate, yes. Did I apologise? many times yes.

Got ya OL and we share the same opinion. I don't pay attention a lot of times you know. To add some more context to the story though I think they were talking about the path she seems to be on because although I haven't seen them yet she is apparently taking more risque pictures and so forth that are out there somewhere. That seems like a fairly lined up path that Spears was on. I'm not even gonna look for the pics but Cap'n may have em'.

And I'm not referring to the Annie Liebowitz pics.

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Here she is, posing with Soul Cap'n Cat!

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Here she is, posing with Soul Cap'n Cat!

I think an achey breaky heart will be the least of her worries.

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I don't think we have a difference of opinion on what Foxx should be allowed to do. At the same time, people that think he was over the top should have the right to say he was over the top. I never said people shouldn't listen to him or he should be taken off the air. I simply said the comment was uncalled for and way out of line. I don't know Foxx and I don't know Cyrus. I don't particularly think that she is more than kid with daddy connections that was in the right spot at the right time for the Disney marketing machine to take her to the top. But that certainly doesn't mean that I think it is appropriate to in a public setting to make a joke about saying a 16 year kid should do a sex movie and take crack cocaine. Do I think Foxx should be punished for it. No, unless his listeners decide it was over the top and turn off his show. My opinion plan and simple.

Should he have apologized? That is up to him. I know I have said things to people that I later regretted. I said them in a group I was with was on a roll with off color jokes and the words popped out of my mouth while the group was rolling. Did I have a right to say it, yes? Was it funny when I said it, yes? did I regret saying it after things slowed down and I realized it was inappropriate, yes. Did I apologise? many times yes.

Got ya OL and we share the same opinion. I don't pay attention a lot of times you know. To add some more context to the story though I think they were talking about the path she seems to be on because although I haven't seen them yet she is apparently taking more risque pictures and so forth that are out there somewhere. That seems like a fairly lined up path that Spears was on. I'm not even gonna look for the pics but Cap'n may have em'.

And I'm not referring to the Annie Liebowitz pics.

you know the only reason I have an interest in this is that I have a 12 year old daughter so you know that I have seen every damn Hanna Montana show that has ever aired fifteen damn times. Just bought the friggin soundtrack for the movie for her last night

The pictures were not that big of a deal. They showed a fifteen year old trying to look sexy. If Jon thinks she is ugly normally she looks gawd awful in those pictures. They weren't appropriate looking for a star that markets to kids, but if she had been a "real" actress no one would have thought much about them. Her Daddy should have been ashamed.

Regarding whether she becomes the next Spears, who knows. I hope not. But let's face it. if someone handed me a massive wad of cash when I turned 18 I would have been the biggest drug addicted slut whore the world had ever seen You see it all the time with child stars, athletes, etc. Who knows, she may excape the stereotype

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Got ya OL and we share the same opinion. I don't pay attention a lot of times you know. To add some more context to the story though I think they were talking about the path she seems to be on because although I haven't seen them yet she is apparently taking more risque pictures and so forth that are out there somewhere. That seems like a fairly lined up path that Spears was on. I'm not even gonna look for the pics but Cap'n may have em'.

And I'm not referring to the Annie Liebowitz pics.

you know the only reason I have an interest in this is that I have a 12 year old daughter so you know that I have seen every damn Hanna Montana show that has ever aired fifteen damn times. Just bought the friggin soundtrack for the movie for her last night

The pictures were not that big of a deal. They showed a fifteen year old trying to look sexy. If Jon thinks she is ugly normally she looks gawd awful in those pictures. They weren't appropriate looking for a star that markets to kids, but if she had been a "real" actress no one would have thought much about them. Her Daddy should have been ashamed.

Regarding whether she becomes the next Spears, who knows. I hope not. But let's face it. if someone handed me a massive wad of cash when I turned 18 I would have been the biggest drug addicted slut whore the world had ever seen You see it all the time with child stars, athletes, etc. Who knows, she may excape the stereotype

So would most folks.

The data out on professional football players is shameful. Seventy some odd percent are bankrupt within five years of playing their last game as a pro. The NBA has even worse stats.

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1. Don Imus was on a nationaly syndicated show on CBS radio- FREE radio. Jamie Foxx's show is on Sirius radio, which you have to purchase to hear. There is a different standard for that.

Opie and Anthony were on XM radio on an XL channel and gpt a 30 dau suspension for comments that were deemed racial toward Condi Rice. They had not made the comments, a guest did.

2. Jamie Foxx didn't call Mylie a white b**ch, Claudia Jordan did. Claudia is obviuosly female. For those out of the loop, Claudia is a model, she's on Deal or no Deal.

The guest was a homeless guy known as "homeless Charlie" that was an extremely funny black guy.

3. The show is a comedy show. I don't like it, because I think it goes WAY too far (believe me, much worse things have been said than what was said about Mylie), but it is a comedy none the less. Imus tries to be some sort of political and social commentator, which puts him in another context.

Their show is a comedy show and as you said it is not for everyone but some of us enjoy different kinds of humor and I'm glad to see that you don't begrudge others for the freedom to listen to some over the top comedy. Imus had a show as you described but it was also a comedic take as much as the elements that you described. He made fun of everybody for many years, EVERYBODy.
4. The context of the argument was not racial, a barely audible racial comment was made in the background. Don Imus INTENTIONALLY, contextually, made racial and sexist insults.

I have to say that it was every bit as intentional on Fox's show as it was on Imus' show. Claudia was on a mic and it was as audible as any other person in the discussion. I agree on the part about Imus continually making the remarks you stated. He did it for many years...off the cuff as these shows do. I said in the earlier point that he made fun of everyone.

5. Mylie is a celebrity, the Rutgers basketball team was not.

I am not familiar with Opie and Anthony, but I think you realize that there is a difference between the Secretary of State and a teenage singer- ESPECIALLY the Secretary of State in the Bush administration. Have we forgotten how the Bush administration silenced dissent?

Ps- If I were Billy Ray, I would be looking for Jamie Foxx with a .45 in my hand.

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1. Don Imus was on a nationaly syndicated show on CBS radio- FREE radio. Jamie Foxx's show is on Sirius radio, which you have to purchase to hear. There is a different standard for that.

Opie and Anthony were on XM radio on an XL channel and gpt a 30 dau suspension for comments that were deemed racial toward Condi Rice. They had not made the comments, a guest did.

2. Jamie Foxx didn't call Mylie a white b**ch, Claudia Jordan did. Claudia is obviuosly female. For those out of the loop, Claudia is a model, she's on Deal or no Deal.

The guest was a homeless guy known as "homeless Charlie" that was an extremely funny black guy.

3. The show is a comedy show. I don't like it, because I think it goes WAY too far (believe me, much worse things have been said than what was said about Mylie), but it is a comedy none the less. Imus tries to be some sort of political and social commentator, which puts him in another context.

Their show is a comedy show and as you said it is not for everyone but some of us enjoy different kinds of humor and I'm glad to see that you don't begrudge others for the freedom to listen to some over the top comedy. Imus had a show as you described but it was also a comedic take as much as the elements that you described. He made fun of everybody for many years, EVERYBODy.
4. The context of the argument was not racial, a barely audible racial comment was made in the background. Don Imus INTENTIONALLY, contextually, made racial and sexist insults.

I have to say that it was every bit as intentional on Fox's show as it was on Imus' show. Claudia was on a mic and it was as audible as any other person in the discussion. I agree on the part about Imus continually making the remarks you stated. He did it for many years...off the cuff as these shows do. I said in the earlier point that he made fun of everyone.

5. Mylie is a celebrity, the Rutgers basketball team was not.

I am not familiar with Opie and Anthony, but I think you realize that there is a difference between the Secretary of State and a teenage singer- ESPECIALLY the Secretary of State in the Bush administration. Have we forgotten how the Bush administration silenced dissent?

Ps- If I were Billy Ray, I would be looking for Jamie Foxx with a .45 in my hand.

It was XM on their own I think just being pussies about racial matters but it could've been...All homeless Charlie said was how badly he wanted to have relations with Condi and that he would have a threesome with Queen Elizabeth as well. I don't remeber him threatening their lives but maybe he did.