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houndawg wrote:
89Hen wrote: Why not just change the laws to make sentencing based on crime and not race?
Works great in theory...
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houndawg wrote:
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Cluck U wrote:Average prices:

Quality Average ($/Oz.)* Sample Size
High Quality $237.52 2316
Medium Quality $198.53 1914
Low Quality $223.47 138
Hmmm. You have to pay more for the low quality weed? Is Anheuser-Busch in the weed business already?
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Ibanez wrote:
Cluck U wrote:
You haven't seent he prices in Colorado.
It's roughly $50 for 1/8 right?
I was in Colorado for awhile and on the street they charge 25 for an eighth of dank and that was before legal stores.. An oz was 100 lol.
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"STUDY: FATAL CAR CRASHES BY MARIJUANA SMOKERS UP 300% OVER LAST DECADE

Fatal Crashes involving marijuana use tripled during the previous decade, according to researchers from Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health. The pot related accidents have helped fuel the overall increase in drugged-driving traffic deaths.

As widespread acceptance of marijuana becomes the norm in the U.S., demonstrated by recent legalization laws in Colorado and Washington, many experts fear a continuing upward spiral of marijuana related traffic injuries and deaths. "Currently, one of nine drivers involved in fatal crashes would test positive for marijuana," said co-author Dr. Guohua Li, director of the Center for Injury Epidemiology and Prevention at Columbia. "If this trend continues, in five or six years non-alcohol drugs will overtake alcohol to become the most common substance involved in deaths related to impaired driving."

The study draws its conclusions from statistics on more than 23,500 drivers who died within one hour of a crash between 1999 and 2010. The toxicology tests were performed on victims from six states including: California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and West Virginia. While alcohol related traffic fatalities remained steady at 40% throughout the decade, drug related deaths soared from 16% in 1999 to a whopping 28% in 2010.

Significantly, the study cites marijuana use as the leading culprit for the swelling number of drug related traffic deaths, contributing to 12 percent of 2010 crashes. This represents a 300% increase compared with four percent in 1999. The study qualifies the pot statistics by emphasizing that because marijuana stays in the blood for up to one week, therefore, researchers said, "the prevalence of nonalcohol drugs reported in this study should be interpreted as an indicator of drug use, not necessarily a measurement of drug impairment."

Not surprisingly, experts warned that combining alcohol and marijuana dramatically increases a driver's risk of death. "If a driver is under the influence of alcohol, their risk of a fatal crash is 13 times higher than the risk of the driver who is not under the influence of alcohol," Li said. "But if the driver is under the influence of both alcohol and marijuana, their risk increases to 24 times that of a sober person."

The increase in marijuana use is not limited to any one segment of the population and is prevalent in both sexes and across all age groups, according to the online Jan. 29 American Journal of Epidemiology. The study reveals that pot impairs users similarly to the way alcohol does. Deputy executive director of the Governors Highway Safety Association, Jonathan Adkins, contends that it impairs judgment, affects vision, and affects the ability to use good judgment.

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) national president Jan Withers asserts that:

This study shows an alarming increase in driving under the influence of drugs and, in particular, it shows an increase in driving under the influence of both alcohol and drugs. When it comes to drugged driving versus drunk driving, the substances may be different but the consequences are the same -- needless deaths and injuries.

Adkins says the study is a “wake-up call” for highway police: "The legalization of pot is going to spread to other states. It's not even a partisan issue at this point. Our expectation is this will become the norm rather than the rarity."

Co-author Li says that officials are working on improving marijuana testing devices to measure pot use when drivers are stopped by police, “I would say in maybe five years or more you will see some testing method or technique that may not be as accurate as the breathalyzer, but is more accurate than the testing devices we have today.""
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BDKJMU wrote:"STUDY: FATAL CAR CRASHES BY MARIJUANA SMOKERS UP 300% OVER LAST DECADE
Something's fishy. I was told there were NO deaths caused by pot ever. :suspicious:
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89Hen wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:"STUDY: FATAL CAR CRASHES BY MARIJUANA SMOKERS UP 300% OVER LAST DECADE
Something's fishy. I was told there were NO deaths caused by pot ever. :suspicious:
It doesn't say that the deaths were caused by marijuana, it says the drivers tested positive for marijuana. Big difference, you can test positive for weed days, even weeks after smoking it. Ask your kids. :coffee:
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BDKJMU wrote:"STUDY: FATAL CAR CRASHES BY MARIJUANA SMOKERS UP 300% OVER LAST DECADE

Fatal Crashes involving marijuana use tripled during the previous decade, according to researchers from Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health. The pot related accidents have helped fuel the overall increase in drugged-driving traffic deaths.

As widespread acceptance of marijuana becomes the norm in the U.S., demonstrated by recent legalization laws in Colorado and Washington, many experts fear a continuing upward spiral of marijuana related traffic injuries and deaths. Currently, one of nine drivers involved in fatal crashes would test positive for marijuana," said co-author Dr. Guohua Li, director of the Center for Injury Epidemiology and Prevention at Columbia. "If this trend continues, in five or six years non-alcohol drugs will overtake alcohol to become the most common substance involved in deaths related to impaired driving."

The study draws its conclusions from statistics on more than 23,500 drivers who died within one hour of a crash between 1999 and 2010. The toxicology tests were performed on victims from six states including: California, Hawaii, Illinois, New Hampshire, Rhode Island and West Virginia. While alcohol related traffic fatalities remained steady at 40% throughout the decade, drug related deaths soared from 16% in 1999 to a whopping 28% in 2010.

Significantly, the study cites marijuana use as the leading culprit for the swelling number of drug related traffic deaths, contributing to 12 percent of 2010 crashes. This represents a 300% increase compared with four percent in 1999. The study qualifies the pot statistics by emphasizing that because marijuana stays in the blood for up to one week, therefore, researchers said, "the prevalence of nonalcohol drugs reported in this study should be interpreted as an indicator of drug use, not necessarily a measurement of drug impairment."

Not surprisingly, experts warned that combining alcohol and marijuana dramatically increases a driver's risk of death. "If a driver is under the influence of alcohol, their risk of a fatal crash is 13 times higher than the risk of the driver who is not under the influence of alcohol," Li said. "But if the driver is under the influence of both alcohol and marijuana, their risk increases to 24 times that of a sober person."

The increase in marijuana use is not limited to any one segment of the population and is prevalent in both sexes and across all age groups, according to the online Jan. 29 American Journal of Epidemiology. The study reveals that pot impairs users similarly to the way alcohol does. Deputy executive director of the Governors Highway Safety Association, Jonathan Adkins, contends that it impairs judgment, affects vision, and affects the ability to use good judgment.

Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) national president Jan Withers asserts that:

This study shows an alarming increase in driving under the influence of drugs and, in particular, it shows an increase in driving under the influence of both alcohol and drugs. When it comes to drugged driving versus drunk driving, the substances may be different but the consequences are the same -- needless deaths and injuries.

Adkins says the study is a “wake-up call” for highway police: "The legalization of pot is going to spread to other states. It's not even a partisan issue at this point. Our expectation is this will become the norm rather than the rarity."

Co-author Li says that officials are working on improving marijuana testing devices to measure pot use when drivers are stopped by police, “I would say in maybe five years or more you will see some testing method or technique that may not be as accurate as the breathalyzer, but is more accurate than the testing devices we have today.""
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89Hen wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:"STUDY: FATAL CAR CRASHES BY MARIJUANA SMOKERS UP 300% OVER LAST DECADE
Something's fishy. I was told there were NO deaths caused by pot ever. :suspicious:
You shouldn't blaze and drive, just like you shouldn't drink and drive. :thumb:
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houndawg wrote:
89Hen wrote: Something's fishy. I was told there were NO deaths caused by pot ever. :suspicious:
It doesn't say that the deaths were caused by marijuana, it says the drivers tested positive for marijuana. Big difference, you can test positive for weed days, even weeks after smoking it. Ask your kids. :coffee:
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Significantly, the study cites marijuana use as the leading culprit for the swelling number of drug related traffic deaths, contributing to 12 percent of 2010 crashes.

This study shows an alarming increase in driving under the influence of drugs
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89Hen wrote:
houndawg wrote:
It doesn't say that the deaths were caused by marijuana, it says the drivers tested positive for marijuana. Big difference, you can test positive for weed days, even weeks after smoking it. Ask your kids. :coffee:
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Significantly, the study cites marijuana use as the leading culprit for the swelling number of drug related traffic deaths, contributing to 12 percent of 2010 crashes.

This study shows an alarming increase in driving under the influence of drugs
And?

Besides, no one is for legalizing DUI.
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kalm wrote:And?
and this...
Grizalltheway wrote:how many deaths occur per year as a direct or indirect result of smoking pot versus drinking alcohol?
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Who cares what the accident rate may or may not be related to Marijuana use...
What's that got to do with anything at all?

Particularly in relation to it being legal..?
So what / I'm not sure I see the point..?

Do you really want to compare Alcohol and Marijuana and come to a "danger" factor type conclusion..?
That's like comparing the dangers of Hand guns vs. Garden tools

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I don't see what all the bickering is about

Mary Jane is going to legal everywhere

Then the gummint is going to tax and regulate the sh1t out of it, dope smokers are going to be even bigger pariahs than ciggie smokers

And then the potheads are going to yearn for the days it was illegal
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Jesus. I agree with CID. :shock:

There is an very large underground economy that is going to undergo some major changes.


Hell, I remember that half the fun was that it was illegal.
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: :lol:
And?

Besides, no one is for legalizing DUI.
I thought a poster on these boards was in favor of it, he thought all DUI-related accidents were bunk. Maybe that JSO guy or someone like him. Thought it was all a scam. Good stuff.
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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
And?

Besides, no one is for legalizing DUI.
I thought a poster on these boards was in favor of it, he thought all DUI-related accidents were bunk. Maybe that JSO guy or someone like him. Thought it was all a scam. Good stuff.
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CID1990 wrote:I don't see what all the bickering is about

Mary Jane is going to legal everywhere

Then the gummint is going to tax and regulate the sh1t out of it, dope smokers are going to be even bigger pariahs than ciggie smokers

And then the potheads are going to yearn for the days it was illegal
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Chizzang wrote:Who cares what the accident rate may or may not be related to Marijuana use...
What's that got to do with anything at all?

Particularly in relation to it being legal..?
So what / I'm not sure I see the point..?

Do you really want to compare Alcohol and Marijuana and come to a "danger" factor type conclusion..?
That's like comparing the dangers of Hand guns vs. Garden tools

:coffee: not even close
:lol: You are so full of shit.
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89Hen wrote: :lol: You are so full of ****.
I believe the dangers are equal. There is not enough evidence to say driving and smoking pot is safer than drinking and smoking pot. Same with heath affect of smoking pot. Once it is legalized, there will be more research with more people willing to admit they smoked pot. I am 100% for legalizing it, but not so closed minded to think there are not dangers or heath related issues. People that say it's not dangerous have not seen what I've seen.
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Gil Dobie wrote:
89Hen wrote: :lol: You are so full of ****.
I believe the dangers are equal. There is not enough evidence to say driving and smoking pot is safer than drinking and smoking pot. Same with heath affect of smoking pot. Once it is legalized, there will be more research with more people willing to admit they smoked pot. I am 100% for legalizing it, but not so closed minded to think there are not dangers or heath related issues. People that say it's not dangerous have not seen what I've seen.
You and I are in the minority here Gil.
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89Hen wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
I believe the dangers are equal. There is not enough evidence to say driving and smoking pot is safer than drinking and smoking pot. Same with heath affect of smoking pot. Once it is legalized, there will be more research with more people willing to admit they smoked pot. I am 100% for legalizing it, but not so closed minded to think there are not dangers or heath related issues. People that say it's not dangerous have not seen what I've seen.
You and I are in the minority here Gil.
I don't disagree with either of you. I don't think that pot is more dangerous than alcohol but I don't think there is definitive proof that it's less dangerous. I support legalization because it can then be regulated and taxed and resources can be focused on more dangerous drugs.

Gil's comment about "People that say it's not dangerous have not seen what I've seen" made me think of Reefer Madness and I chuckled though.
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Weed is not as dangerous. It's not even close.
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kalm wrote:Weed is not as dangerous. It's not even close.
Based on what? Is there a study showing the amount of impairment of a person who gets drunk behind the wheel versus a person who is high and behind the wheel? And at a certain point, the amount of impairment doesn't matter - there's bound to be a tipping point. I'm not sure we really know that at this point.
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