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The irrational exuberance and unpredictablility of cleets is more entertaining. :nod:

Appaholic's provocative shots across the bow are more entertaining. 8-)
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wkuhillhound wrote:Now that I'm done with my rant. Are they any rational suggestions that anyone has for me? Insults are not welcome. 8-)
You're the wrong color. ;) ;) ;)

Seriously though: In a 10% unemployment world, you hit the nail on the head: Employers CAN and DO look for the PERFECT candidate because he/she is out there, looking for work. Thus, if they have a marginal candidate, or one they're going to have to train, or one that appears to be chronically unemployed, underemployed, or a job jumper then that resume goes to the round-file faster than you can say "sure I'll be a census worker".
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wkuhillhound wrote:Now that I'm done with my rant. Are they any rational suggestions that anyone has for me? Insults are not welcome. 8-)
You're the wrong color. ;) ;) ;)

Seriously though: In a 10% unemployment world, you hit the nail on the head: Employers CAN and DO look for the PERFECT candidate because he/she is out there, looking for work. Thus, if they have a marginal candidate, or one they're going to have to train, or one that appears to be chronically unemployed, underemployed, or a job jumper then that resume goes to the round-file faster than you can say "sure I'll be a census worker".
Gotta agree with Z on this one. On the flipside however, some employers are also unwilling to hire the "over"qualified candidates as well. They don't want to invest training dollars on someone who is underemployed for fear that as soon as the market rebounds, that employee will jump ship (rightfully so) to a higher paying position. Case in point: my wife got more inquiries when she was looking for work AFTER she removed her Master's Degree from her Monster resume.....
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wkuhillhound wrote:I have been trying for not one but 2 years to find a full-time job, not just seasonal and temp jobs. Short of traveling to another state outside of TN and KY there is nothing available. I have put in probably 50 - 75 applications (not including on-line applications) during this period and I have only gotten 3 callbacks (including on-line applications). Employers want the "perfect" candidate instead of the "competent" candidate. If I feel that I'm qualified for the job that it entails, then I apply. Sometimes I wonder why I haven't given up. Oh, yeah because I'm 32, willing to work, with one bad check writing charge against me. I know that a simple bad check charge can't be the only thing that is holding me back. It can't be bad interviewing because I can't even get that far with a less than 5% interview rate. People are broke, when gas prices are going back up, people get tired of asking for gas money (I know that I do), unemployment funds can only go so far until that dries up. It's ironic that I'm the one that is willing to stay for the long haul but the people that they hired ended up leaving within 6 months of getting the job. Not my that they hired the wrong person. :ohno: The only thing I have right now is H&R Block, but that's not until December. A very long wait for income to come in when no one calls for an interview. I have tried the aggressive route and employers find every excuse that they can conjure up not talk to me. It's really sickening. Why put up Help Wanted signs if you are not willing to talk to the applicant. I have a high intolerance for the shady employers and it's getting old.

I have received NO UNEMPLOYMENT money, because I didn't work long enough to get it. I guess I am one of the people that fell through the cracks. It must have been a mighty big crack to fall through. :lol:

Now that I'm done with my rant. Are they any rational suggestions that anyone has for me? Insults are not welcome. 8-)
death dealer is correct, but I'll go a couple of steps further. See if you can find the help you are seeking in the following words:

1) You are/were fat. You do not have the luxury of being older with a work history. Employers/interviewers notice those things. You may not like it, but your size is a big problem when you get to an interview. As you have since discovered, most people are fat due to a poor attitude and poor choices. If you can't make good decisions about your body when you are young, then why the hell would you take the time to make good decisions for a company that hired you? If you are losing weight, then that is an improvement....but you've put yourself into a hole and it will take time to crawl out.

2) You have often demonstrated a poor attitude on this board...almost vengeful at times towards people. If you don't change that you will suffer...it shows through in many ways.

3) What volunteer work have you done? If your answer is, "none", then that is a reflection of your attitude. You are unemployed with not much experience so what are you doing to make yourself more attractive as a candidate?

4) What do you want to do for a living? Who do you know that works in that field? What have you done to meet people in that field?

5) What are you doing with your time? What concrete steps are you taking to bring yourself closer to your goal of employment?

I could go on...believe me, I could...but those 5 should be a start for your answer to your unemployment...and your solution. You can take some of that as an insult, but none of it was.

Good luck.
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Not much effort by "welfare moms" comparitively. Most government handouts go to the wealthy, all the white **** who cheat on their taxes and to corporations/Wall Street. St. Wronge, when you get your head out of your ass, read up on TARP. We recently bailed out Wall Street and american automanufacturers with a godzillian of welfare dollars.

You **** idiots need to get off the blacks and the poor and concentrate on the real criminals and welfare whores.

Racist motherfuckers, every one of you
I don't think I mentioned anything about race or income. I think I just said we've established a government hand out mentality and wondered how much effort is devoted to pursuing such handouts. I'm against handouts to corporations as well.

However, I don't consider something like a "tax break" a handout. Allowing some person or entity to keep more of their own money isn't a handout. And the TARP thing...I didn't agree with it...but wasn't it largely a loan program?

Anyway, I know you guys like to try to act like there's as much of a problem with "handouts" to the "rich" in this country as there is with handouts to "the poor." But there isn't. The preponderance of government "handout" funding does not go to "the rich." Plus, I don't think most of the problem with people believing that they are entitled to having their basic needs met by government is associated with "the rich" or with corporations. That idea...that entitlement mentality...is deeply entrenched and I think it is a societal sickness. There is, I think, a fundamental shortcoming in population in which a substantial proportion believe they are entilted by virtue of their mere existence to having others take care of their basic needs should that become necessary.
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Cluck U wrote:
wkuhillhound wrote:I have been trying for not one but 2 years to find a full-time job, not just seasonal and temp jobs. Short of traveling to another state outside of TN and KY there is nothing available. I have put in probably 50 - 75 applications (not including on-line applications) during this period and I have only gotten 3 callbacks (including on-line applications). Employers want the "perfect" candidate instead of the "competent" candidate. If I feel that I'm qualified for the job that it entails, then I apply. Sometimes I wonder why I haven't given up. Oh, yeah because I'm 32, willing to work, with one bad check writing charge against me. I know that a simple bad check charge can't be the only thing that is holding me back. It can't be bad interviewing because I can't even get that far with a less than 5% interview rate. People are broke, when gas prices are going back up, people get tired of asking for gas money (I know that I do), unemployment funds can only go so far until that dries up. It's ironic that I'm the one that is willing to stay for the long haul but the people that they hired ended up leaving within 6 months of getting the job. Not my that they hired the wrong person. :ohno: The only thing I have right now is H&R Block, but that's not until December. A very long wait for income to come in when no one calls for an interview. I have tried the aggressive route and employers find every excuse that they can conjure up not talk to me. It's really sickening. Why put up Help Wanted signs if you are not willing to talk to the applicant. I have a high intolerance for the shady employers and it's getting old.

I have received NO UNEMPLOYMENT money, because I didn't work long enough to get it. I guess I am one of the people that fell through the cracks. It must have been a mighty big crack to fall through. :lol:

Now that I'm done with my rant. Are they any rational suggestions that anyone has for me? Insults are not welcome. 8-)
death dealer is correct, but I'll go a couple of steps further. See if you can find the help you are seeking in the following words:

1) You are/were fat. You do not have the luxury of being older with a work history. Employers/interviewers notice those things. You may not like it, but your size is a big problem when you get to an interview. As you have since discovered, most people are fat due to a poor attitude and poor choices. If you can't make good decisions about your body when you are young, then why the hell would you take the time to make good decisions for a company that hired you? If you are losing weight, then that is an improvement....but you've put yourself into a hole and it will take time to crawl out.

If I'm losing weight? I guess 157.7 lbs lost in 26 months is not losing weight in your book. My bad. If you have taken the time to look at my signature or look at the better you sticky thread, you would know, instead of jumping to slap happy conclusions. It has been well documented in the AGS boards as well. Size doesn't make a difference, if you cannot perform your job then you will be let go. Physical appearance HAS ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with ability and it also has nothing to do with accomplishing things. I was "FAT" when I was in the National Honor Society in high school and with I got my Bachelor's Degree at Western Kentucky University. You can take my answer as an insult but none of it was. :coffee:

2) You have often demonstrated a poor attitude on this board...almost vengeful at times towards people. If you don't change that you will suffer...it shows through in many ways.

If you've had any clue of what I've been through from the VERY start of my life, then you would have the slightest bit of understanding. You call it vengeful, I call it being a conquerer, period. Most of my "poor" attitude is provoked, thank you very much. I have been silencing critics throughout my life. Those are the same people that want to congratulate me, but truly don't mean it. As far as I'm concerned they will never be allies, they burned that bridge when they snap judged me. All I am doing is existing on the planet Earth. They are the ones with the problem, not me. I'm just pointing out their glaring flaws in their judgment of me.

3) What volunteer work have you done? If your answer is, "none", then that is a reflection of your attitude. You are unemployed with not much experience so what are you doing to make yourself more attractive as a candidate?

I helped in an investigation of a long-time employee of H&R Block that was dismissed 2 years ago. I got paid nothing for helping my manager copy files, organize, and prepare the 4 boxes of returns over a 4 year period to the IRS in a prompt manner. AHHHHHH! It took me approximately a week to do that bit of volunteer work. This is something I wouldn't put on an application though. Since you asked.

4) What do you want to do for a living? Who do you know that works in that field? What have you done to meet people in that field?

Eventually, I want do to something in the accounting field. I am not trying to find anything in that field at the current moment. I just want to get a full-time job and then get back to paying the student loans and once I'm cleared to be current then I will visit that.

5) What are you doing with your time? What concrete steps are you taking to bring yourself closer to your goal of employment?

Losing weight, I'm getting prepped for the current tax season with H&R Block, and finding work. Believe it or not, finding work is a full-time job in it of itself.

I could go on...believe me, I could...but those 5 should be a start for your answer to your unemployment...and your solution. You can take some of that as an insult, but none of it was.

Good luck.
Thanks for the good luck, I guess. I don't know if you meant it or not, but I suggest that you don't set the flame of burning a perfectly stable bridge to friendship.

I totally believe that you could go on. Your cynicism is astounding. I am not the least bit surprised by your demeanor and your snap judgment of me. That's OK. I don't expect nothing more from you than that. Then if you can understand WHEN I prove you wrong, I will take any of congratulation with a grain of salt. :thumb:
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