House GOP Plan to cut $2.5 Trillion

[93henfan]

Fuck off, loanshark.

I'm sorry 93 but 89's opportunity to maybe some day own 7 mansions and approach Walton family like wealth trumps your greedy desire to make enough money after your wife divorces you to afford a studio apartment and a case of Top Ramen each month.

FIFY

[JMU DJ]

This was just an Omega-3 supplement you were taking right? No other active ingredients in the med you were taking, besides the fact that it was "ultra pure?"

It had two ingredients. Omega-3 and something with some really long name which my doctor said was the only thing in the world keeping me from completely unravelling and shooting up a federal building.

The stuff you recommended has both I hope?

Yeah, it's got the fish poop in it too.

[93henfan]

It had two ingredients. Omega-3 and something with some really long name which my doctor said was the only thing in the world keeping me from completely unravelling and shooting up a federal building.

The stuff you recommended has both I hope?

Yeah, it's got the fish poop in it too.

Serious PM coming your way in a sec...

[89Hen]

I know some Federal employees here in NC. They were wondering themselves who the hell was making all the money. That kind of pay is for reserved for top dogs within the various agencies state offices, not the rank and file or mid level employees.

GS13 is where you cross over to 6 figures pretty much everywhere. Most feds with a college degree will start in the 5-7 grade range and can move up a grade pretty much every year. I do think some positions cap out at what grade they can reach (93?).

[93henfan]

I know some Federal employees here in NC. They were wondering themselves who the hell was making all the money. That kind of pay is for reserved for top dogs within the various agencies state offices, not the rank and file or mid level employees.

GS13 is where you cross over to 6 figures pretty much everywhere. Most feds with a college degree will start in the 5-7 grade range and can move up a grade pretty much every year. I do think some positions cap out at what grade they can reach (93?).

Here's the DC pay scale: http://www.opm.gov/oca/10tables/html/dcb.asp

You start at step 1, then advance to step 2, 3, and 4 at one year intervals, then the rest of the steps 5 and after at three year intervals.

By comparison, here is the Asheville, NC payscale: http://www.opm.gov/oca/10tables/html/RUS.asp

Another variable is grade inflation. Many times, the same job in the DC locale will be two grades higher than in other locales. That was the reason I went to work where I am now. Same job, two grades higher at the USNA (DC locality) versus Dover AFB (Philly locality).

The answer to your last question is yes, some fields cap out at higher grades. My particular field has a direct path through GS-15 with opportunity for SES-level billet if you so choose. Some career fields just don't have a realistic path beyond GS-7, maybe even lower.

[AshevilleApp]

I know some Federal employees here in NC. They were wondering themselves who the hell was making all the money. That kind of pay is for reserved for top dogs within the various agencies state offices, not the rank and file or mid level employees.

GS13 is where you cross over to 6 figures pretty much everywhere. Most feds with a college degree will start in the 5-7 grade range and can move up a grade pretty much every year. I do think some positions cap out at what grade they can reach (93?).

If it's comparable to state and local governments, then positions will cap out.

[89Hen]

Same job, two grades higher at the USNA

We just got a game scheduled for an 8am time at the end of February at your workplace. May have to drag it out and hit Cantlers for lunch.

[93henfan]

Same job, two grades higher at the USNA

We just got a game scheduled for an 8am time at the end of February at your workplace. May have to drag it out and hit Cantlers for lunch.

Cantlers is always good. No outside seating in February though.

[AshevilleApp]

GS13 is where you cross over to 6 figures pretty much everywhere. Most feds with a college degree will start in the 5-7 grade range and can move up a grade pretty much every year. I do think some positions cap out at what grade they can reach (93?).

Here's the DC pay scale: http://www.opm.gov/oca/10tables/html/dcb.asp

You start at step 1, then advance to step 2, 3, and 4 at one year intervals, then the rest of the steps 5 and after at three year intervals.

By comparison, here is the Asheville, NC payscale: http://www.opm.gov/oca/10tables/html/RUS.asp

Another variable is grade inflation. Many times, the same job in the DC locale will be two grades higher than in other locales. That was the reason I went to work where I am now. Same job, two grades higher at the USNA (DC locality) versus Dover AFB (Philly locality).

The answer to your last question is yes, some fields cap out at higher grades. My particular field has a direct path through GS-15 with opportunity for SES-level billet if you so choose. Some career fields just don't have a realistic path beyond GS-7, maybe even lower.

Thanks, I was wondering whether location and cost of living had a variable effect.

[93henfan]

Getting back on topic, the cuts listed would be extremely painful if they really happened. That particular list is the GOP wish list, which protects their constituency. The Dems will counter with their list, which will protect their constituency. They'll all get together, debate far too long, delete most of the cuts for political purposes, then pass a bill they haven't read which pays lip service to cost cutting and makes the country no better off.

Hooray for our current Congress.

[93henfan]

Thanks, I was wondering whether location and cost of living had a variable effect.

Here's a crystal clear example of the DC factor:

I'm in contracting, GS field 1102. Minimum requirement for 1102 is a bachelors degree with 24 credits in business. At Dover AFB, a college grad can get hired at the GS-9 grade level. He could typically get all of his Defense Acquisition University (DAU) training knocked out and obtain his DAWIA Level II certification, get a contracting officer's warrant (legal requirement for letting contracts), and apply for a promotion to a GS-11 team lead position. He could conceivably work the rest of his career as a GS-11 or seek a branch chief GS-12 position once he had worked long enough to be considered a subject matter expert in contracting and attained his DAWIA Level III. There is no opportunity for promotion beyond GS-12 for an 1102 at Dover AFB. The Director of Business Operations at Dover AFB, a lady with 40 years of service and a true expert, was a GS-12 when I worked at Dover. When I tell people this in DC, then look at me with an astonished look on their face.

In DC, 1102s are hired as either GS-11 interns or GS-12/13's (one year trial at GS-12 and automatic promotion to GS-13 if you can walk and chew bubble gum). Team leaders are GS-14's and branch chiefs are GS-15s. Directors are SES pay scale.

So in summary for the 1102 field (DC/Dover):

Entry level (12/9)
Journeyman (13/11)
Team leader: (14/11)
Branch chief: (15/12)
Director: (SES/12)

[Chemhen]

Getting back on topic, the cuts listed would be extremely painful if they really happened. That particular list is the GOP wish list, which protects their constituency. The Dems will counter with their list, which will protect their constituency. They'll all get together, debate far too long, delete most of the cuts and add pork for political purposes, then pass a bill they haven't read which pays lip service to cost cutting and makes the country no better off.

Hooray for our current Congress.

Fixed it for you.

[93henfan]

Getting back on topic, the cuts listed would be extremely painful if they really happened. That particular list is the GOP wish list, which protects their constituency. The Dems will counter with their list, which will protect their constituency. They'll all get together, debate far too long, delete most of the cuts and add pork for political purposes, then pass a bill they haven't read which pays lip service to cost cutting and makes the country no better off.

Hooray for our current Congress.

Fixed it for you.

Yeah, how the hell did I forget that.

[houndawg]

Eliminate health care for Federal employees and fund high-speed rail with the savings.

What the living **** are you talking about? Federal employees healthcare is not some kind of cadillac plan. We choose from the same **** that everyone else does and if you read the "what do you pay for health insurance" thread a few months back, you'd see that my plan if pretty damn average. My premium just went up over $60/month for the new year; now paying just over $250 month. Hell, I just stopped taking one of my medications because they upped my copay for a month's supply from $35 to $76 for the new year. JMU DJ suggested a non-prescription equivalent which I am about to order.

I don't know if Congress is somehow different or if you meant to say "Congress" instead of "Federal employees", but you're really speaking out of your ass here. Please stop trying to lump honest, hardworking, non-union federal employees like me in with fat cats inside the beltway.

Sorry, bubba, I was hoping context would make it clear that I was referring to a specific 535 Federales. Whom I believe have a plan that is not pretty damn average.