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kalm wrote:
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It clearly hasn't been investigated enough yet. :coffee:
It's a tired story. Everyone who hates her, was reinforced. Everyone who likes her was reinforced. Blah. Blah. Blah. Everyone knows she's a liar. It's been proven and proven again.
Four American's died. Who really thinks she lost any sleep over it? Not me.
Yet, she is the front runner for the Presidency. We will get what we deserve.

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andy7171 wrote:
kalm wrote:
It clearly hasn't been investigated enough yet. :coffee:
It's a tired story. Everyone who hates her, was reinforced. Everyone who likes her was reinforced. Blah. Blah. Blah. Everyone knows she's a liar. It's been proven and proven again.
Four American's died. Who really thinks she lost any sleep over it? Not me.
Yet, she is the front runner for the Presidency. We will get what we deserve.

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Do you think Bush lost sleep over the 89 killed in various embassy bombings under his watch?

Or Rice or Powell or Cheney?


Do you think Reagan/Bush Sr lost any sleep over the 224 Americans killed in the Beirut bombing?

Why is this one such a big deal - it is solely because of partisanship that is un-American and wasteful.

Fortunately, many are starting to see that this is all a big show, and it is back-firing on the GOP. If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.
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andy7171 wrote:
kalm wrote:
It clearly hasn't been investigated enough yet. :coffee:
It's a tired story. Everyone who hates her, was reinforced. Everyone who likes her was reinforced. Blah. Blah. Blah. Everyone knows she's a liar. It's been proven and proven again.
Four American's died. Who really thinks she lost any sleep over it? Not me.
Yet, she is the front runner for the Presidency. We will get what we deserve.

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Don't be such a nattering nabob of negativism, Andy. Just relax and enjoy the show. And notice how the investigation momentum is shifting and beginning to hurt the conks more than Hillary and how they can't find a way to scrape this mess they created off their shoe.... its beautiful, man. I hope it goes another six months. 8-)
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Meh. Losing an “ambassador” is a big deal since we hadn’t lost one in an attack since 1979. We aren’t talking about losing a few infantrymen who were humping in the bush so the concern and desire to get the “truth” is warranted.

Andy is right; nothing from this hearing changes anyone’s outlook on Hillary unless you are undecided on her. The pro Hillary camp is claiming victory after the hearings, as is the anti-Hillary camp. IMO here are the key things that stand out to me on this issue:
1) Had Clinton handed over the email years ago when initially requested this whole Banghazi thing would have been forgotten by now. This hearing only happened because new info was obtained from the Clinton camp, info previous investigations didn’t have at the time.
2) This Benghazi thing is still notable because Hillary’s main resume’ builder to serve as POTUS is her SOS experience. What happened under her leadership is fair game and a good indication of what to expect from her “leadership” when she becomes POTUS.
3) Over 600 requests for additional security prior to the attack (spread over a long time frame) that were ignored/denied. Brits and Red Cross pulled out of Libya by the time the attack occurred. If you are going to have high ranking officials in a hot zone, give them the support they need or GTFO. Hillary was in a position to make that decision one way or another; she is accountable for anything that happens under her watch.
4) Zero movement of assets once the initial attack was underway. I can secede this point if there was no hope of ever reaching the ambassador, but again see point 3 above.
5) Most damning and really the only “new” thing found out in this hearing: Clinton knew it was a planned terrorist attack (emailed her family and informed the Egyptian gov) but stuck to the “Youtube video” narrative when explaining it to the American people. I say “new” because previously we didn’t have emails that verify this; however anyone with a brain stem knew a Youtube video didn’t incite a riot that overran an “embassy”.

When it’s all said and done I don’t think this will have any implications on the election. Your average person is more concerned with where their next paycheck is coming from rather than what goes on in some shithole in the ME. This whole thing will be spun as a waste of time/money, and it’s pretty hard to argue that. conks can thank McCarthy’s comments for that. :dunce: :lol:
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dbackjon wrote:
andy7171 wrote: It's a tired story. Everyone who hates her, was reinforced. Everyone who likes her was reinforced. Blah. Blah. Blah. Everyone knows she's a liar. It's been proven and proven again.
Four American's died. Who really thinks she lost any sleep over it? Not me.
Yet, she is the front runner for the Presidency. We will get what we deserve.

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Do you think Bush lost sleep over the 89 killed in various embassy bombings under his watch?

Or Rice or Powell or Cheney?


Do you think Reagan/Bush Sr lost any sleep over the 224 Americans killed in the Beirut bombing?

Why is this one such a big deal - it is solely because of partisanship that is un-American and wasteful.

Fortunately, many are starting to see that this is all a big show, and it is back-firing on the GOP. If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.
How many of those administrations tried to play election year politics by claiming they were caused by anything other than preplanned terrorism?

They lied to preserve the narrative that Al Qaeda was on the run, Jon. They played politics with the deaths of Americans in a failed state created completely by their own actions.

Republican administrations have done despicable things too - but by your calculus that makes similar actions by this administration A-OK in your book. That's just blind partisanship.
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dbackjon wrote:
andy7171 wrote: It's a tired story. Everyone who hates her, was reinforced. Everyone who likes her was reinforced. Blah. Blah. Blah. Everyone knows she's a liar. It's been proven and proven again.
Four American's died. Who really thinks she lost any sleep over it? Not me.
Yet, she is the front runner for the Presidency. We will get what we deserve.

:|
Do you think Bush lost sleep over the 89 killed in various embassy bombings under his watch?

Or Rice or Powell or Cheney?


Do you think Reagan/Bush Sr lost any sleep over the 224 Americans killed in the Beirut bombing?

Why is this one such a big deal - it is solely because of partisanship that is un-American and wasteful.

Fortunately, many are starting to see that this is all a big show, and it is back-firing on the GOP. If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.
Can you agree that she lied to the public about why this happened the next day? That much is obvious. And if you can see that through your blind rage against the GOP. Did Bush or Reagan do the same after those Americans were killed?
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CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Do you think Bush lost sleep over the 89 killed in various embassy bombings under his watch?

Or Rice or Powell or Cheney?


Do you think Reagan/Bush Sr lost any sleep over the 224 Americans killed in the Beirut bombing?

Why is this one such a big deal - it is solely because of partisanship that is un-American and wasteful.

Fortunately, many are starting to see that this is all a big show, and it is back-firing on the GOP. If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.
How many of those administrations tried to play election year politics by claiming they were caused by anything other than preplanned terrorism?

They lied to preserve the narrative that Al Qaeda was on the run, Jon. They played politics with the deaths of Americans in a failed state created completely by their own actions.

Republican administrations have done despicable things too - but by your calculus that makes similar actions by this administration A-OK in your book. That's just blind partisanship.

For me it's not that she played politics with the event - she's a career politician and a good one - and that's not really a compliment... if this was a one off event then yeah whatever... but the absolute quantity of stuff she's been mired in over the past 20 years is astounding - seriously astounding

So yeah... one political event meh... whatever, but one every 8 months for 20 years - sweet JEZUS
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“I would imagine I’ve thought more about what happened than all of you put together. I’ve lost more sleep than all of you put together. I have been racking my brain about what more could have been done or should have been done.”
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
How many of those administrations tried to play election year politics by claiming they were caused by anything other than preplanned terrorism?

They lied to preserve the narrative that Al Qaeda was on the run, Jon. They played politics with the deaths of Americans in a failed state created completely by their own actions.

Republican administrations have done despicable things too - but by your calculus that makes similar actions by this administration A-OK in your book. That's just blind partisanship.

For me it's not that she played politics with the event - she's a career politician and a good one - and that's not really a compliment... if this was a one off event then yeah whatever... but the absolute quantity of stuff she's been mired in over the past 20 years is astounding - seriously astounding

So yeah... one political event meh... whatever, but one every 8 months for 20 years - sweet JEZUS
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Hillary is a despicable, lying, piece of shit, among other things. :coffee:
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CAA Flagship wrote:Hillary is a despicable, lying, piece of shit, among other things. :coffee:
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andy7171 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:
Do you think Bush lost sleep over the 89 killed in various embassy bombings under his watch?

Or Rice or Powell or Cheney?


Do you think Reagan/Bush Sr lost any sleep over the 224 Americans killed in the Beirut bombing?

Why is this one such a big deal - it is solely because of partisanship that is un-American and wasteful.

Fortunately, many are starting to see that this is all a big show, and it is back-firing on the GOP. If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.
Can you agree that she lied to the public about why this happened the next day? That much is obvious. And if you can see that through your blind rage against the GOP. Did Bush or Reagan do the same after those Americans were killed?

Lie? No, the situation was fluid, and the "lies" were a figment of the right wing.


And yes, Bush lied, continuously. Reagan, he couldn't recall.
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CAA Flagship wrote:Hillary is a despicable, lying, piece of shit, among other things. :coffee:

Like the best candidate running for President besides Bernie :nod:
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dbackjon wrote:
andy7171 wrote: Can you agree that she lied to the public about why this happened the next day? That much is obvious. And if you can see that through your blind rage against the GOP. Did Bush or Reagan do the same after those Americans were killed?

Lie? No, the situation was fluid, and the "lies" were a figment of the right wing.


And yes, Bush lied, continuously. Reagan, he couldn't recall.
The willful neglect and ignorance in the months leading up to 9/11 make this shit absolutely pale in comparison. "But Bush" me all you want, but it's true. :nod:

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dbackjon wrote:
andy7171 wrote: Can you agree that she lied to the public about why this happened the next day? That much is obvious. And if you can see that through your blind rage against the GOP. Did Bush or Reagan do the same after those Americans were killed?

Lie? No, the situation was fluid, and the "lies" were a figment of the right wing.


And yes, Bush lied, continuously. Reagan, he couldn't recall.
The situation was fluid? Jesus H. Titty-Fucking Christ, you wouldn't have used that phrase if you hadn't heard Hildabeast use it yesterday. You're fucking pathetic.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Lie? No, the situation was fluid, and the "lies" were a figment of the right wing.


And yes, Bush lied, continuously. Reagan, he couldn't recall.
The willful neglect and ignorance in the months leading up to 9/11 make this shit absolutely pale in comparison. "But Bush" me all you want, but it's true. :nod:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... 11/411175/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But but but your guy lied first…so it’s ok for our guy to lie too. :dunce: :silly:

Total clown show, this head in the sand mentality only adds to the political entertainment being provided right now. :nod:
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CitadelGrad wrote:
dbackjon wrote:

Lie? No, the situation was fluid, and the "lies" were a figment of the right wing.


And yes, Bush lied, continuously. Reagan, he couldn't recall.
The situation was fluid? Jesus H. Titty-Fucking Christ, you wouldn't have used that phrase if you hadn't heard Hildabeast use it yesterday. You're fucking pathetic.
It was so fluid that she informed the Egyptian gov that it was a planned attack not long after the incident happened...whoops... :dunce: :lol:
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SDHornet wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
The willful neglect and ignorance in the months leading up to 9/11 make this shit absolutely pale in comparison. "But Bush" me all you want, but it's true. :nod:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... 11/411175/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But but but your guy lied first…so it’s ok for our guy to lie too. :dunce: :silly:

Total clown show, this head in the sand mentality only adds to the political entertainment being provided right now. :nod:
Never said it was okay. But the conk outrage over this is laughable when all they did was deflect and try to blame 9/11 on Clinton. :coffee:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
SDHornet wrote: But but but your guy lied first…so it’s ok for our guy to lie too. :dunce: :silly:

Total clown show, this head in the sand mentality only adds to the political entertainment being provided right now. :nod:
Never said it was okay. But the conk outrage over this is laughable when all they did was deflect and try to blame 9/11 on Clinton. :coffee:
Then whose fault is Benghazi?
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andy7171 wrote:
kalm wrote:
It clearly hasn't been investigated enough yet. :coffee:
It's a tired story. Everyone who hates her, was reinforced. Everyone who likes her was reinforced. Blah. Blah. Blah. Everyone knows she's a liar. It's been proven and proven again.
Four American's died. Who really thinks she lost any sleep over it? Not me.
Yet, she is the front runner for the Presidency. We will get what we deserve.

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CitadelGrad wrote:Jesus H. Titty-Fucking Christ
Pics or it didn't happen.
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SDHornet wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Never said it was okay. But the conk outrage over this is laughable when all they did was deflect and try to blame 9/11 on Clinton. :coffee:
Then whose fault is Benghazi?
The congress that cut funding for their security? :coffee:
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SDHornet wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Never said it was okay. But the conk outrage over this is laughable when all they did was deflect and try to blame 9/11 on Clinton. :coffee:
Then whose fault is Benghazi?
I don't know. Isn't that what this years-long boondoggle is supposed to figure out? :|
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SDHornet wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Never said it was okay. But the conk outrage over this is laughable when all they did was deflect and try to blame 9/11 on Clinton. :coffee:
Then whose fault is Benghazi?
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