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kalm wrote:Where does the graphic say the majority can't be oppressed? :coffee:
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kalm wrote:Where does the graphic say the majority can't be oppressed? :coffee:
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travelinman67 wrote:http://www.wral.com/muslim-call-to-pray ... /14353003/

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To the numbskulls who signed off on this "diversity" exercise...

...you have chosen to display abominably poor judgement.
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Who do these people think they are promoting freedom of religion?
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DSUrocks07 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:So you are against religious freedom...good to know.
We are a "Christian nation" remember. Only Christians are being persecuted. The destiny of this country is to obviously become a theocracy where anyone who dares believes other religions can be executed in the streets!
Actually we aren't, by law. :coffee:
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travelinman67 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:The Bible is full of stories where non believers were killed (Jericho, anyone?!). The problem with Christianity is that you have Christians (many who don't like Jews) reading the JEWISH holy book and the New Testament and trying to make sense of it all without knowing what they are reading. It's 2 different books with 2 different versions of God. The God of the OT is like a drunk, abusive uncle. The God of the NT is a peace loving hippy. 
So, in other words, Jesus, an ACOA, broke the cycle of violence and worked through his father issues by spreading love all over the world.

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Jesus you hold a grudge a long time.. :ohno:
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Cluck U wrote:This thread is awesome! :thumb:

To appease the non-religious, but culinary devoted folks, at Duke, they should amplify a big fart from the bell tower at meal times...and don't forget Fourth Meal.



Anyway, excellent job by the Duke graduates who said they would shut their wallets. :nod: :thumb:
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houndawg wrote:
DSUrocks07 wrote: We are a "Christian nation" remember. Only Christians are being persecuted. The destiny of this country is to obviously become a theocracy where anyone who dares believes other religions can be executed in the streets!
Actually we aren't, by law. :coffee:
He was being sarcastic.
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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: :tothehand:

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That was your assertion.... :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Freedom of speech to combat freedom of speech. Democracy has worked again! :thumb:
Bigots... :coffee:


So let me get this straight. You say that Duke University, which was founded by Methodists & Quakers, which is still affiliated with the United Methodist Church, with a chapel that was paid for by the United Methodist Church and other Christians, are bigots because they won't allow the Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast from the chapel. :dunce: ...Sounds like you're the bigot here, intolerant of others' beliefs....
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D1B wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
:lol: :lol: It's pretty close to it.
And this really is Tbag retiring.

Fat dumb **** gets called out for being a christian idiot and he lashes out. We've seen this over and over. Yawn.... He also tried to use the old apologist ruse of disregarding the old testament. :lol:

Face it, anyone who objectively reads the bible and the quran will find the bible to be infinitely more violent, and christians to be infinitely more violent. Just look at their track record in the 20th century - 70 million dead versus a few million at the hands of muslims. Tbag's heroes, W and Cheney, killed hundreds of thousands of muslims in the span of only a few years.

Check yourself, ****. :nod:
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BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
Bigots... :coffee:


So let me get this straight. You say that Duke University, which was founded by Methodists & Quakers, which is still affiliated with the United Methodist Church, with a chapel that was paid for by the United Methodist Church and other Christians, are bigots because they won't allow the Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast from the chapel. :dunce: ...Sounds like you're the bigot here, intolerant of others' beliefs....

So they only partially allow other faiths. Pussies. Make it 100% christian or STFU.

God you're a dope. :thumb:
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Here ya go, BDKJMU. Edumacate your ignant self... :lol:
Franklin Graham is no stranger to anti-Islam bigotry.

He's previously called Islam "an evil and wicked religion" and vehemently objected to Muslims offering Jummah at the National Cathedral.

Duke University, meanwhile, is no stranger to pluralism and tolerance. A Christian university, Duke is known for its history of academic excellence, religious diversity, and I hear they have an above average basketball team too.

So what happens when a raging Islamophobe without a shred of knowledge about Islam collides with a world-leading academic institution known for its pluralism and diversity?

Unfortunately, sometimes bigotry wins………………………………….

If Graham says he preaches the Gospel, why doesn't he follow Jesus's example, who helped someone who was not of the House of Israel--even though he declared, "I am not sent but to the House of Israel?" Here was Graham's opportunity to help those not of the Christian faith--and thus follow Christ's example. Instead, Graham's cowardice tramples upon Christ's compassionate teachings.

And though he vehemently hates Islam, Graham could learn much from Prophet Muhammad. In a famous instance some Christian scholars from a nearby town called Najran came to visit Muhammad. They sat in his mosque and debated religion--preaching the Gospel to him. Muhammad not only welcomed them but happily engaged in dialogue with them. Eventually his Christian guests asked permission to leave to offer their worship services.

Muhammad replied with conviction, that his mosque was a house of worship for all people. History records that the Christians from Najran offered their worship services in Prophet Muhammad's own mosque--unhindered, unrestricted, and unhesitatingly.

Some time later, Christian Monks from St. Catherine's Monastery of Sinai wrote to Muhammad, asking what their status would be under his rule? Muhammad responded with an infamous letter that survives to this day

"This is a message from Mohammed ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. ... The Muslims are to fight for them. ... Their churches are to be respected. ... No one of the Muslims is to disobey this covenant until the Last Day."

Sadly, extremist clerics in countries like Pakistan have forgotten Prophet Muhammad's beautiful example. Likewise, extremist clerics named Franklin Graham in countries like America have forgotten Jesus Christ's beautiful example.

Muhammad and Jesus have much in common--both taught compassion, pluralism, and service to all humanity. Duke University has historically followed this model. Whether Duke ultimately permits calling the Adhaan or not, I encourage them to heed the Christ-like and Muhammad-like calls of pluralism going forward.
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BDKJMU wrote:
D1B wrote:
And this really is Tbag retiring.

Fat dumb **** gets called out for being a christian idiot and he lashes out. We've seen this over and over. Yawn.... He also tried to use the old apologist ruse of disregarding the old testament. :lol:

Face it, anyone who objectively reads the bible and the quran will find the bible to be infinitely more violent, and christians to be infinitely more violent. Just look at their track record in the 20th century - 70 million dead versus a few million at the hands of muslims. Tbag's heroes, W and Cheney, killed hundreds of thousands of muslims in the span of only a few years.

Check yourself, ****. :nod:
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Dumb1Boy, takes a whuppin' in Bible study, cones backi to assert Bush/Cheney responsible for modern day Muslim holocaust.

:lol:

Ignores Muslim terrorist cowards hide behnd the burkhas of their women, and wrap their children in suicide bombs...

...to murder scores of civilians...

...daily.

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...a conflict THEY initiated.

The blood is on their hands.

A concept simpletons like Dumb1 cannot understand.

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kalm wrote:Here ya go, BDKJMU. Edumacate your ignant self... :lol:
Franklin Graham is no stranger to anti-Islam bigotry.

He's previously called Islam "an evil and wicked religion" and vehemently objected to Muslims offering Jummah at the National Cathedral.

Duke University, meanwhile, is no stranger to pluralism and tolerance. A Christian university, Duke is known for its history of academic excellence, religious diversity, and I hear they have an above average basketball team too.

So what happens when a raging Islamophobe without a shred of knowledge about Islam collides with a world-leading academic institution known for its pluralism and diversity?

Unfortunately, sometimes bigotry wins………………………………….

If Graham says he preaches the Gospel, why doesn't he follow Jesus's example, who helped someone who was not of the House of Israel--even though he declared, "I am not sent but to the House of Israel?" Here was Graham's opportunity to help those not of the Christian faith--and thus follow Christ's example. Instead, Graham's cowardice tramples upon Christ's compassionate teachings.

And though he vehemently hates Islam, Graham could learn much from Prophet Muhammad. In a famous instance some Christian scholars from a nearby town called Najran came to visit Muhammad. They sat in his mosque and debated religion--preaching the Gospel to him. Muhammad not only welcomed them but happily engaged in dialogue with them. Eventually his Christian guests asked permission to leave to offer their worship services.

Muhammad replied with conviction, that his mosque was a house of worship for all people. History records that the Christians from Najran offered their worship services in Prophet Muhammad's own mosque--unhindered, unrestricted, and unhesitatingly.

Some time later, Christian Monks from St. Catherine's Monastery of Sinai wrote to Muhammad, asking what their status would be under his rule? Muhammad responded with an infamous letter that survives to this day

"This is a message from Mohammed ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. ... The Muslims are to fight for them. ... Their churches are to be respected. ... No one of the Muslims is to disobey this covenant until the Last Day."

Sadly, extremist clerics in countries like Pakistan have forgotten Prophet Muhammad's beautiful example. Likewise, extremist clerics named Franklin Graham in countries like America have forgotten Jesus Christ's beautiful example.

Muhammad and Jesus have much in common--both taught compassion, pluralism, and service to all humanity. Duke University has historically followed this model. Whether Duke ultimately permits calling the Adhaan or not, I encourage them to heed the Christ-like and Muhammad-like calls of pluralism going forward.
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That's nice.

I wonder if the author of that article could cite any other behaviors Mohammad displayed? :suspicious:
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Islam..."the religion of peace". Saudi style.

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Last week's Saudi beheading of a foreign woman accused of beating her stepdaughter...

NSFW or those with a weak stomach.

For the non-farsi speaking viewers...she's pleading for her life, yelling, "I did not kill! I did not kill!"

http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=3fe_1421494996

Sidenote: The MP who surreptitiously recorded this has been arrested and will be prosecuted under Sharia law.
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Sure Christianity bugs me...
And I have a special distaste for Mormons and Scientologists :ohno:


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The enormity and scope of my hatred for Islam can hardly be explained in words




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Chizzang wrote:Sure Christianity bugs me...
And I have a special distaste for Mormons and Scientologists :ohno:


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The enormity and scope of my hatred for Islam can hardly be explained in words




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One word, according to kalm: bigot. :lol:
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Perhaps Duke University should open talks with Muslim backed universities in the middle east to offer bi-lateral action allowing Muslim prayer services in the Christian chapel at Duke while the Muslim universities in the Middle East allow Christian prayer services in Muslim houses of worship.

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Chizzang wrote:Sure Christianity bugs me...
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The enormity and scope of my hatred for Islam can hardly be explained in words




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One word, according to kalm: bigot. :lol:
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LeadBolt wrote:Perhaps Duke University should open talks with Muslim backed universities in the middle east to offer bi-lateral action allowing Muslim prayer services in the Christian chapel at Duke while the Muslim universities in the Middle East allow Christian prayer services in Muslim houses of worship.

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LeadBolt wrote:Perhaps Duke University should open talks with Muslim backed universities in the middle east to offer bi-lateral action allowing Muslim prayer services in the Christian chapel at Duke while the Muslim universities in the Middle East allow Christian prayer services in Muslim houses of worship.

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To my knowledge, smuggling in, possession, or distribution of a Bible in Saudi Arabia is a crime. If done by a Muslim, it is a capital offense (apostasy).
Surely you aren't saying that a capital offense is as serious as not allowing the call to prayer from the bell tower are you?
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Only in America can we have a tizzy fit over a Christian church first deciding to holler the Salat, then later deciding not to.

Hopefully the folks at Duke (and other places considering the same thing) will take a close look at themselves as see how silly they really look.

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