Zimbabwe: Minnesota Dentist Being Sought For Lion Poaching

[andy7171]

Shooting an animal on a reserve is not sport. There is no hunting. I don't hunt, but I have been known to shoot a bird with a BB gun.
But I find it a bit odd, these people get sand in their vagina over a dead lion on the other side of the world, and then look the other way when people in our government are negotiating how much baby parts should be sold for.

[Gil Dobie]

Shooting an animal on a reserve is not sport. There is no hunting. I don't hunt, but I have been known to shoot a bird with a BB gun.
But I find it a bit odd, these people get sand in their vagina over a dead lion on the other side of the world, and then look the other way when people in our government are negotiating how much baby parts should be sold for.

Where does it say he was shot on a reserve. The stories I am reading say he was lured out of a reserve and shot on a the farmers land.

There are also stories that he shot the lion with a crossbow, when every photo I've seen of him, he has a compound bow. Big difference, different license in most cases.

[dbackjon]

I guess there are a number of people here that'd be OK with some guy from Zimbabwe picking off a bald eagle in Montana.....

Bald Eagles are protected, lions are not protected, and are considered big game. If someone shoots a Bald Eagle they deserve to punished by law, if someone shoots a lion illegally, they deserve to punished by the law.

665 Approx number of 'trophy' lions killed for export from Africa per year
49 Lion 'trophies' exported from Zimbabwe in 2013
0.29% Contribution to GDP of Zimbabwe from trophy hunting
17% Of Zimbabwe's land given to trophy hunting

BBC Link

I apologize for letting facts get in the way of your rant, please carry on.

Where Cecil lived, he was protected.

Gil Dobie Fail

[Gil Dobie]

Bald Eagles are protected, lions are not protected, and are considered big game. If someone shoots a Bald Eagle they deserve to punished by law, if someone shoots a lion illegally, they deserve to punished by the law.

665 Approx number of 'trophy' lions killed for export from Africa per year
49 Lion 'trophies' exported from Zimbabwe in 2013
0.29% Contribution to GDP of Zimbabwe from trophy hunting
17% Of Zimbabwe's land given to trophy hunting

BBC Link

I apologize for letting facts get in the way of your rant, please carry on.

Where Cecil lived, he was protected.

Gil Dobie Facts

Thank you captain obvious! He did get shot on the farmers land with a compound bow.

Apology accepted.

Jon and Bill, why do you not like facts?

[andy7171]

Shooting an animal on a reserve is not sport. There is no hunting. I don't hunt, but I have been known to shoot a bird with a BB gun.
But I find it a bit odd, these people get sand in their vagina over a dead lion on the other side of the world, and then look the other way when people in our government are negotiating how much baby parts should be sold for.

Where does it say he was shot on a reserve. The stories I am reading say he was lured out of a reserve and shot on a the farmers land.

There are also stories that he shot the lion with a crossbow, when every photo I've seen of him, he has a compound bow. Big difference, different license in most cases.

Shot on a reserve, lured out of reserve to farmers land...who gives a fuck! It's not sport! It's not hunting! I couldn't give two shits about this. It's a lion. It was going to die anyway. We all are. Think of the fucking animals it was going to kill just to live! What about them!?!

One lion, on the other side of the globe. And this dentist paid good money for the head! Now people here want him dead?

[Gil Dobie]

Shot on a reserve, lured out of reserve to farmers land...who gives a ****! It's not sport! It's not hunting! I couldn't give two shits about this. It's a lion. It was going to die anyway. We all are. Think of the **** animals it was going to kill just to live! What about them!?!

One lion, on the other side of the globe. And this dentist paid good money for the head! Now people here want him dead?

Just don't like to see all the spin in the news media. People are believing PETA stories before all the facts are released.

[Skjellyfetti]

Just don't like to see all the spin in the news media. People are believing PETA stories before all the facts are released.

Reemember when you were posting daily updates on Philip Berg's Obama birth certificate lawsuit.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Love the KYJelly tapout!

Cant win a debate, change the subject

Most reporters wouldnt know the difference between a cross bow and a compound bow, they are idiots that mouth what they are told by people even dumber than they are.

[Skjellyfetti]

Don't think I've been apart of any debate on this.

I think the doctor is an asshole, but I don't really give a a shit about this story.

[Gil Dobie]

Just don't like to see all the spin in the news media. People are believing PETA stories before all the facts are released.

Reemember when you were posting daily updates on Philip Berg's Obama birth certificate lawsuit.

Yes, I presented information about the case, which included Berg's opinion. He also claimed Bush was leader of the 9/11 conspiracy. Berg claimed Obama was not a citizen of the USA, in which case he lost. I was intrigued with how the government would rule on his time in Indonesia.

These sources and others lead Plaintiff to
conclude that Obama is either a citizen of his father’s native Kenya, by birth there or through
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operation of U.S. law; or that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia by relinquishing his prior
citizenship (American or Kenyan) when he moved there with his mother in 1967

[dbackjon]

Where Cecil lived, he was protected.

Gil Dobie Facts

Thank you captain obvious! He did get shot on the farmers land with a compound bow.

Apology accepted.

Jon and Bill, why do you not like facts?

Still doesn't change the fact he was protected. If not, why was the guide arrested?


Whydon'tyoulikefacts?

[BDKJMU]

Where does it say he was shot on a reserve. The stories I am reading say he was lured out of a reserve and shot on a the farmers land.

There are also stories that he shot the lion with a crossbow, when every photo I've seen of him, he has a compound bow. Big difference, different license in most cases.

Shot on a reserve, lured out of reserve to farmers land...who gives a ****! It's not sport! It's not hunting! I couldn't give two shits about this. It's a lion. It was going to die anyway. We all are. Think of the **** animals it was going to kill just to live! What about them!?!

One lion, on the other side of the globe. And this dentist paid good money for the head! Now people here want him dead?

And all the Africans it was going to kill (see the Smithsonian article I referenced earlier). #Blacklivesmatter

[bluehenbillk]

The lion was on a preserve & was lured out of the reserve & then shot. The fact is the lion was on a reserve to let it live freely, thus the idea of a preserve. The technality of where they shot it is inconsequential, do you think something like that would hold up i any court of law much less the court of public opinion.

At least it looks like if this dentist isn't tried for his crime that his dental practice is down the tubes.

[BDKJMU]

Shooting an animal on a reserve is not sport. There is no hunting. I don't hunt, but I have been known to shoot a bird with a BB gun.
But I find it a bit odd, these people get sand in their vagina over a dead lion on the other side of the world, and then look the other way when people in our government are negotiating how much baby parts should be sold for.

Where does it say he was shot on a reserve. The stories I am reading say he was lured out of a reserve and shot on a the farmers land.

There are also stories that he shot the lion with a crossbow, when every photo I've seen of him, he has a compound bow. Big difference,different license in most cases.

Yep. My hunting experience is limited & never have bow hunted, but if he was using a compound he would have had to have been even closer than with the crossbow, right? Likely within 50 yds of that Lion?

[BDKJMU]

The lion was on a preserve & was lured out of the reserve & then shot. The fact is the lion was on a reserve to let it live freely, thus the idea of a preserve. The technality of where they shot it is inconsequential, do you think something like that would hold up i any court of law much less the court of public opinion.

At least it looks like if this dentist isn't tried for his crime that his dental practice is down the tubes.

Newsflash. The Zimbabweans don't care.

'What lion?' Zimbabweans ask, amid global Cecil circus
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Its only the libtards over here who are getting worked up over this..

[CID1990]

So from what I gather from the media and this thread -

dude killing a lion in Zimbabwe wasn't so much of a big deal as the fact that he killed a POPULAR lion

[Gil Dobie]

Thank you captain obvious! He did get shot on the farmers land with a compound bow.

Apology accepted.

Jon and Bill, why do you not like facts?

Still doesn't change the fact he was protected. If not, why was the guide arrested?


Whydon'tyoulikefacts?

He was arrested for poaching as what I have heard today. Still have not found a clear source for the reason, but they vary from not having the proper license to his company having already shot their limit. None of the sources have said the lion was protected off the reserve.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

The Doc lives in the USA, there is nothing that can be done to him nor should there be.

Its just a lion and the Doc is immune from African law over here just like illegals from Mexico. I love when the left hypocrisy meter is pegged.

[JohnStOnge]

It just amazes me that people give a shit about lions.

I heard a guy on MSNBC today say that anybody who hunts is psychotic. Now, I don't hunt so that's not a shot at me.

But my thought is that people in the United States or Europe or where ever who give a shit about a lion getting shot in Africa are the sick ones. I don't know what the condition would be characterized as. But they're mentally ill as far as I'm concerned.

[Skjellyfetti]

He was arrested for poaching as what I have heard today. Still have not found a clear source for the reason, but they vary from not having the proper license to his company having already shot their limit. None of the sources have said the lion was protected off the reserve.

This explains it fairly clearly.

The lion was lured out of the National Park - but, the private land where the lion was shot did not have permit or quota for lion hunting.

Theo Bronkhorst, who was working with Bushman Safaris, was charged by Victoria Falls police on Monday for allegedly killing the collared lion on Antionette farm in Gwayi Conservancy in the Hwange district, the Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management Authority said.

The land owner, Honest Trymore Ndlovu, is also facing charges.

“Ongoing investigations to date, suggest that the killing of the lion was illegal since the land owner was not allocated a lion on his hunting quota for 2015,” the Parks and Wildlife Management Authority said in a statement.

Lion Aid explains that it is legal to bait lions in Zimbabwe, to shoot them with a bow and arrow from a blind, to kill them outside a national park in a private hunting area and to kill collared lions.

“But Cecil was shot in an area not assigned a lion quota. Supposedly the bait was set for a leopard and then Cecil came along. The professional hunter, Theo Bronkhorst told his client to shoot the lion, and then the hunt became illegal,” Lion Aid says. “The professional hunter then allegedly attempted to destroy the radiocollar to hide the evidence. Allegedly the client was “furious” when he found that the lion was radiocollared. Allegedly, when a professional hunter engages a client in an area without lion quota, the lion will be listed as hunted in an area that does have quota. This could have been standard practice, but unfortunately Cecil was a well-known lion.”

Bronkhorst and Ndlovu appeared in court on Wednesday, and authorities are trying to find another professional hunter, Zane Bronkhorst, who is also believed to have been involved in the hunt.

“Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management as the Regulatory Authority and custodian of all wild animals in Zimbabwe issues hunting permits and hunting quota for all hunting areas in Zimbabwe so that only animals on quota are to be hunted. In this case, both the professional hunter and land owner had no permit or quota to justify the offtake of the lion and therefore are liable for the illegal hunt,” the agency said.

The lion trophy has been confiscated, the management agency said in the statement.

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Here's the statement from the Zimbabwe officials:
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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Either way its just a lion..............it doesnt even have a hashtag like #blacklivesmatter

[Pwns]

Question: If Cecil was an ugly, obscure species of hominid, would people be fuming if he got killed?

It's the same way a lot of Westerners don't mind eating beef and pork that are just absolutely appalled that people out there are eating dog.

[Pwns]

It just amazes me that people give a shit about lions.

I heard a guy on MSNBC today say that anybody who hunts is psychotic. Now, I don't hunt so that's not a shot at me.

But my thought is that people in the United States or Europe or where ever who give a shit about a lion getting shot in Africa are the sick ones. I don't know what the condition would be characterized as. But they're mentally ill as far as I'm concerned.

I wonder if that dunderhead has a problem with infecting animals with deadly diseases or cancer for the purpose of medical research or if any women in his family use cosmetics. Or if he even thinks about how the animals he presumably eats are housed before they are slaughtered.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Question: If Cecil was an ugly, obscure species of hominid, would people be fuming if he got killed?

It's the same way a lot of Westerners don't mind eating beef and pork that are just absolutely appalled that people out there are eating dog.

They care more about this stupid lion than the 67 people that were shot and killed this month in Chicago............

[Chizzang]

It just amazes me that people give a shit about lions.

I heard a guy on MSNBC today say that anybody who hunts is psychotic. Now, I don't hunt so that's not a shot at me.

But my thought is that people in the United States or Europe or where ever who give a shit about a lion getting shot in Africa are the sick ones. I don't know what the condition would be characterized as. But they're mentally ill as far as I'm concerned.

I wonder if that dunderhead has a problem with infecting animals with deadly diseases or cancer for the purpose of medical research or if any women in his family use cosmetics. Or if he even thinks about how the animals he presumably eats are housed before they are slaughtered.

It sounds like you're just scratching the surface on how dumb iron age religions sound to a logical person...
Good for you
I'm proud of you guys



Its a big step, now we have a point of reference to start from
I can always say now: "Guys, Remember the stupid Lion thing..?"

I love a solid breakthrough
Because - yes - its that stupid