Abrams is correct in saying there is no heartbeat at six weeks. i would not say it is a manufactured sound. But it's not a heartbeat. If you think the abortion issue is going to work in favor of Republicans, you are kidding yourself. it is going to work in favor of Democrats. It may not be enough for them given everything else that is going on. But it is going to work in favor of them.
The same Johns Hopkins you have been jerking off to since the start of COVID is the same Johns Hopkins that says the heart of human embryos starts beating at the end of the first four weeks.
Quit being stupid and pay better attention. I did not say abortion was going to work in the favor of Conks. I did say that it isn't going to be the savior to keep Donks from getting motorboated out of Congress.
“While the heart does begin to develop at around six weeks, at this point the heart as we know it does not yet exist,” said Dr. Ian Fraser Golding, a pediatric and fetal cardiologist at Rady Children’s Hospital San Diego.
Instead, at six weeks, the embryo will develop a tube that generates sporadic electrical impulses that eventually coordinate into rhythmic pulses, he said.
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Baldy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:36 pm
The same Johns Hopkins you have been jerking off to since the start of COVID is the same Johns Hopkins that says the heart of human embryos starts beating at the end of the first four weeks.
Quit being stupid and pay better attention. I did not say abortion was going to work in the favor of Conks. I did say that it isn't going to be the savior to keep Donks from getting motorboated out of Congress.
“While the heart does begin to develop at around six weeks, at this point the heart as we know it does not yet exist,” said Dr. Ian Fraser Golding, a pediatric and fetal cardiologist at Rady Children’s Hospital San Diego.
Instead, at six weeks, the embryo will develop a tube that generates sporadic electrical impulses that eventually coordinate into rhythmic pulses, he said.
Electrical pulses, you say?
Really?
Someone is going really really far out of their way to not call a heartbeat a heartbeat.
Someone is going really really far out of their way to not call a heartbeat a heartbeat.
It appears to be debatable. I suppose you could make a case for an ectopic pregnancy being a baby too.
But what exactly do we mean when we talk about a "fetal heartbeat" at six weeks of pregnancy? Although some people might picture a heart-shaped organ beating inside a fetus, this is not the case.
Rather, at six weeks of pregnancy, an ultrasound can detect "a little flutter in the area that will become the future heart of the baby," said Dr. Saima Aftab, medical director of the Fetal Care Center at Nicklaus Children's Hospital in Miami. This flutter happens because the group of cells that will become the future "pacemaker" of the heart gain the capacity to fire electrical signals, she said
Baldy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:42 am
Electrical pulses, you say?
Really?
Someone is going really really far out of their way to not call a heartbeat a heartbeat.
It appears to be debatable. I suppose you could make a case for an ectopic pregnancy being a baby too.
Not really comparable at all. Of course an ectopic pregnancy is still a baby (or at least a human being for a better phrase). Just because an ectopic pregnancy is always doomed for failure and needs to be aborted due to the extreme risk to the mother doesn't mean it isn't life. That has nothing to do if people want to call the onset of electrical pulses in the area where the heart will be in a fetus a heartbeat or not.
It appears to be debatable. I suppose you could make a case for an ectopic pregnancy being a baby too.
Not really comparable at all. Of course an ectopic pregnancy is still a baby (or at least a human being for a better phrase). Just because an ectopic pregnancy is always doomed for failure and needs to be aborted due to the extreme risk to the mother doesn't mean it isn't life. That has nothing to do if people want to call the onset of electrical pulses in the area where the heart will be in a fetus a heartbeat or not.
So an ectopic fetus is a baby and electrical impulses are a heart beat is the point you’re making regarding abortion?
Not really comparable at all. Of course an ectopic pregnancy is still a baby (or at least a human being for a better phrase). Just because an ectopic pregnancy is always doomed for failure and needs to be aborted due to the extreme risk to the mother doesn't mean it isn't life. That has nothing to do if people want to call the onset of electrical pulses in the area where the heart will be in a fetus a heartbeat or not.
So an ectopic fetus is a baby and electrical impulses are a heart beat is the point you’re making regarding abortion?
Yes on the first and no comment on the second. People can debate electrical impulses and heart beats to their hearts content, I don't think that's a big issue at all.
So an ectopic fetus is a baby and electrical impulses are a heart beat is the point you’re making regarding abortion?
Yes on the first and no comment on the second. People can debate electrical impulses and heart beats to their hearts content, I don't think that's a big issue at all.
But according to GOP operatives, the move also gave Republicans running for Congress the opportunity to home in on illegal immigration and border security, topics they've clamored to put at the center of this fall's midterm elections.
Fair point.
Illegal immigration with a now cratering economy (why spend waning resources on illegals?) and the increase in crime in inner cities under the Biden regime/Dem agenda should be the focal point for conks. Everything else is just window dressing.
Kind of hard to bury the story when the immigrants are dropped off in front of local news crews and then it gets reported locally, which then means it makes it harder for national news to do their normal bury and move. It also gets the whole border thing free press that it normally would not get outside of border states.
Top 10 Google searches are now:
1) Jobs
2) Taxes
3) Donald Trump
4) Wages
5) Ukraine
6) Firearms
7) China
8) Russia
9) Joe Biden
10) Border/Immigration
Some good analysis (I think) on what it means for both parties below.
I saw something about abortion doings polling in favor of conks in PA.
very well may be but independents swing national elections and soon we're going to be treated to Clarence Thomas' wife speaking to the Jan 6 committee, that should be entertaining af
Yeah because Jan 6 has been a lightning rod at the poll booth.
Abrams is correct in saying there is no heartbeat at six weeks. i would not say it is a manufactured sound. But it's not a heartbeat. If you think the abortion issue is going to work in favor of Republicans, you are kidding yourself. it is going to work in favor of Democrats. It may not be enough for them given everything else that is going on. But it is going to work in favor of them.
The same Johns Hopkins you have been jerking off to since the start of COVID is the same Johns Hopkins that says the heart of human embryos starts beating at the end of the first four weeks.
Quit being stupid and pay better attention. I did not say abortion was going to work in the favor of Conks. I did say that it isn't going to be the savior to keep Donks from getting motorboated out of Congress.
JSO ignoring clear scientific facts again? Say it ain't so.
I think I would stick with polling. The obvious glaring example of what that is so is inflation. It's not among that top 10 and obviously it is at or near the top in terms of issues people are concerned about.
It'd be great if Jobs really were the top issue because Biden's term has been characterized by record job creation.
Problem is, you can't really talk about jobs without then also talking about wages. The drop in real wages over the past year or two due to the overwhelming inflation is not really something Dems would want to have to defend. Dems are going to run on Trump and abortion and hope nothing else comes up.
Yep, that and to keep distracting the masses with the "need" to send billions to Ukraine.
Illegal immigration with a now cratering economy (why spend waning resources on illegals?) and the increase in crime in inner cities under the Biden regime/Dem agenda should be the focal point for conks. Everything else is just window dressing.
Agreed economy/crime/border should be the focus. 40” yr high inflation, down market), 2 years record high esploding crime rates all across the country, and 2 years record high illegal immigration.
Would add 4th issue to above 3 Yougkin and conks in VA won on 21’- schools: unecessary closure with online no learning, forced masking & vax, CRT & woke agenda. That resonated with surburbam moms. Donks (school boards, local & state pols) still need to be held accountable for what they did to kids. Counter to donks on abortion.
Conks for now need to for 6 weeks to stop talking about Hunter 1/6, MAL, Trump, abortion and much else besides the above 4 issues.
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"desantis losing is a huge win for Blue". Sounds like you said it to me. He's got as much chance to lose as I do at becoming the next president, so either way it was a retarded comment by a dense dawg.
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But what exactly do we mean when we talk about a "fetal heartbeat" at six weeks of pregnancy? Although some people might picture a heart-shaped organ beating inside a fetus, this is not the case.
Rather, at six weeks of pregnancy, an ultrasound can detect "a little flutter in the area that will become the future heart of the baby," said Dr. Saima Aftab, medical director of the Fetal Care Center at Nicklaus Children's Hospital in Miami. This flutter happens because the group of cells that will become the future "pacemaker" of the heart gain the capacity to fire electrical signals, she said.
It's not a heartbeat.
Look, my position is that it doesn't even matter. The transition between non existence and existence for a member of our species is genetic recombination. I don't think the question of whether there is a heartbeat or not is even relevant. But there is no heartbeat at 6 weeks gestation.
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I can remember watching the polls as it approached and thinking that, more likely than not, the amendment would pass. But it was defeated by 18 percentage points.
That's one reason I say that Democrats need to make the vote about the abortion issue as much as possible. They need to create the impression that the Republicans are a threat to abortion rights. And the Republicans are helping them in that regard. Like Lindsey Graham's thing.
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But if I told the truth and nothing but the truth
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"desantis losing is a huge win for Blue". Sounds like you said it to me. He's got as much chance to lose as I do at becoming the next president, so either way it was a retarded comment by a dense dawg.
it was in response to a hypothetical situation posed by somebody else.
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Problem is, you can't really talk about jobs without then also talking about wages. The drop in real wages over the past year or two due to the overwhelming inflation is not really something Dems would want to have to defend. Dems are going to run on Trump and abortion and hope nothing else comes up.
Yep, that and to keep distracting the masses with the "need" to send billions to Ukraine.
All wars are about profits.
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You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
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"desantis losing is a huge win for Blue". Sounds like you said it to me. He's got as much chance to lose as I do at becoming the next president, so either way it was a retarded comment by a dense dawg.
