Coronavirus COVID-19

[GannonFan]

Re-education...Covid style.



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... cTdSg2C89U

Nancy needs to remove the mask mandate in the House and wait for MTG, Boebert, etc. to get sick. Once the some of the anti-vaxxers start getting sick, the some of the others will start rethinking their position.

And that's an option. But the CDC was pretty clear, we should be doing away with masks for vaccinated people, indoors or outside, except in very specific locations. Pretty sure Congress isn't one of them. If anti-vaxxers want to take the risk then so be it - the risk is on them and those like them. There's nothing saying you can't continue to wear a mask if you want to, free country and all. So those who would get the vaccine but don't for a medical reason (say immunocompromised) can keep wearing masks. Frankly, if they're that immunocompromised they probably should've been wearing masks all along.

[HI54UNI]

Re-education...Covid style.



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... cTdSg2C89U

Nancy needs to remove the mask mandate in the House and wait for MTG, Boebert, etc. to get sick. Once the some of the anti-vaxxers start getting sick, the some of the others will start rethinking their position.

Several House members are claiming that Nancy only requires it when they're in front of TV cameras and that Congress critters and staff members don't wear them in hallways or offices.

[Gil Dobie]

Local post office took the mask sign down.

[Winterborn]

Re-education...Covid style.

Getting everyone vaccinated in the United States has become much harder now that demand for the Covid-19 vaccine is flagging. America’s vaccination strategy needs to change to address this, and it starts with understanding the specific reasons people have not been vaccinated yet.

The conventional approach to understanding whether someone will get vaccinated is asking people how likely they are to get the vaccine and then building a demographic profile based on their answers: Black, white, Latinx, Republican, Democrat. But this process isn’t enough: Just knowing that Republicans are less likely to get vaccinated doesn’t tell us how to get them vaccinated. It’s more important to understand why people are still holding out, where those people live and how to reach them.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... cTdSg2C89U

49.2% of Americans received the flu vaccine in '18-'19.

If we get over 60% vaccinated I will be shocked. In fact I think I have a better shot of waking up with Evangeline Lilly next to me in bed than us getting over 55%.

[GannonFan]

Re-education...Covid style.



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... cTdSg2C89U

49.2% of Americans received the flu vaccine in '18-'19.

If we get over 60% vaccinated I will be shocked. In fact I think I have a better shot of waking up with Evangeline Lilly next to me in bed than us getting over 55%.

We're almost there now. Heck, the science is that even just one dose of the two-dose vaccines is pretty effective (and far more effective than the flu vaccines are typically). Something like 60% of adults already have the one dose, and early word is the percentage of 12-18 year olds getting the vaccine is pretty good. I don't think we hit the herd target (and that moves - first it was 70%, then 75%, now it's 80% or even more), but I think we get above 60%.

[89Hen]

FWIW, I've had the Covid vaccine and I've never gotten a flu shot.

[GannonFan]

FWIW, I've had the Covid vaccine and I've never gotten a flu shot.

I only started getting the flu shot two or three years ago when work had a guy from Rite-Aid come in and offer it right in the conference room. I literally had to walk about 10 seconds, sit down, get the shot, and walk back to my desk. When it's that easy I figured why not. Never had the flu, either before getting the shot or after. But it doesn't cost me anything so I get the shot.

Got my COVID shots and am past the two weeks so I'm golden. Wife did the J&J shot and didn't die, so that's good. Eldest just got his second dose this past weekend and the two younger ones just got their first shots yesterday. If they say it's safe for dogs then I'll sign my two puppies up.

[89Hen]

All four in my home are done. All four in my SIL's home are done. All six in my BIL's home are done. Both in my other SIL's home are done. My three siblings and spouses are done.

[Winterborn]

49.2% of Americans received the flu vaccine in '18-'19.

If we get over 60% vaccinated I will be shocked. In fact I think I have a better shot of waking up with Evangeline Lilly next to me in bed than us getting over 55%.

We're almost there now. Heck, the science is that even just one dose of the two-dose vaccines is pretty effective (and far more effective than the flu vaccines are typically). Something like 60% of adults already have the one dose, and early word is the percentage of 12-18 year olds getting the vaccine is pretty good. I don't think we hit the herd target (and that moves - first it was 70%, then 75%, now it's 80% or even more), but I think we get above 60%.

So you are saying I better wash my sheets.

How many are going to get the booster shots in 6 months and thereafter when it becomes a every 6-12 month thing like the flu shot?

For the record, I have no idea outside of spit balling, what that is going to look like. My best guess is it will trend down after the "push" dies down.

[Winterborn]

FWIW, I've had the Covid vaccine and I've never gotten a flu shot.

I have never had either.


For the record I will probably need it to travel internationally but outside of that one requirement I probably would not get it. Right now I am just seeing how long I can go with out it. Just a little game I am playing right now with our current conditions.

[Winterborn]

FWIW, I've had the Covid vaccine and I've never gotten a flu shot.

I only started getting the flu shot two or three years ago when work had a guy from Rite-Aid come in and offer it right in the conference room. I literally had to walk about 10 seconds, sit down, get the shot, and walk back to my desk. When it's that easy I figured why not. Never had the flu, either before getting the shot or after. But it doesn't cost me anything so I get the shot.

Got my COVID shots and am past the two weeks so I'm golden. Wife did the J&J shot and didn't die, so that's good. Eldest just got his second dose this past weekend and the two younger ones just got their first shots yesterday. If they say it's safe for dogs then I'll sign my two puppies up.

Same here at work and a third of the office still doesn't get it. I once did an informal poll on asking who got it and who didn't among my close coworkers, and participation seemed to be most among those with young kids (daycare, etc) and the 40+ crowd.

[Gil Dobie]

We're almost there now. Heck, the science is that even just one dose of the two-dose vaccines is pretty effective (and far more effective than the flu vaccines are typically). Something like 60% of adults already have the one dose, and early word is the percentage of 12-18 year olds getting the vaccine is pretty good. I don't think we hit the herd target (and that moves - first it was 70%, then 75%, now it's 80% or even more), but I think we get above 60%.

So you are saying I better wash my sheets.

How many are going to get the booster shots in 6 months and thereafter when it becomes a every 6-12 month thing like the flu shot?

For the record, I have no idea outside of spit balling, what that is going to look like. My best guess is it will trend down after the "push" dies down.

If covid is still around, at my age, I will continue with the shot, just like I do with the flu. I'm not sure how many polio shots I received, but that was a big deal back in the day. We had a couple elderly gentlemen in our community that were permanently disabled due to Polio. That's a down of less than 500 people. Probably depends on the person.

[Winterborn]

So you are saying I better wash my sheets.

How many are going to get the booster shots in 6 months and thereafter when it becomes a every 6-12 month thing like the flu shot?

For the record, I have no idea outside of spit balling, what that is going to look like. My best guess is it will trend down after the "push" dies down.

If covid is still around, at my age, I will continue with the shot, just like I do with the flu. I'm not sure how many polio shots I received, but that was a big deal back in the day. We had a couple elderly gentlemen in our community that were permanently disabled due to Polio. That's a down of less than 500 people. Probably depends on the person.

Among a certain segment of society I would expect that they will (and should IMHO) get the boosters.

Outside of that, leave it up to the individual.

Ran across this the other day.

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[SDHornet]

If covid is still around, at my age, I will continue with the shot, just like I do with the flu. I'm not sure how many polio shots I received, but that was a big deal back in the day. We had a couple elderly gentlemen in our community that were permanently disabled due to Polio. That's a down of less than 500 people. Probably depends on the person.

Among a certain segment of society I would expect that they will (and should IMHO) get the boosters.

Outside of that, leave it up to the individual.

Ran across this the other day.

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Exactly. Do what's best for you.

[Col Hogan]

When I was a commander in the military (active duty) I had to give a Lieutenant an Article 15 for refusing to get a flu shot, which was mandatory in our unit...

With the COVID vaccine, only 33 percent of the military has received the shot (as of May 5th) and there is nothing leadership can do but beg the troops to get it.

Guess what the difference is??? (It has lots to do with why lots of folks are refusing to be vaccinated)

And for the record, the wife and I have been fully vaccinated...

[kalm]

When I was a commander in the military (active duty) I had to give a Lieutenant an Article 15 for refusing to get a flu shot, which was mandatory in our unit...

With the COVID vaccine, only 33 percent of the military has received the shot (as of May 5th) and there is nothing leadership can do but beg the troops to get it.

Guess what the difference is??? (It has lots to do with why lots of folks are refusing to be vaccinated)

And for the record, the wife and I have been fully vaccinated...

What’s the difference?

[kalm]

Just booked the youngest for his first tomorrow. Rest of us are good.

Will continue to get jabbed as recommended. Was off and on with the flu but recommitted January of 2020 when a golf league teammate went from feeling a little off to life support in 3 days. Died 4 days later at age 48...of the flu.

[Col Hogan]

When I was a commander in the military (active duty) I had to give a Lieutenant an Article 15 for refusing to get a flu shot, which was mandatory in our unit...

With the COVID vaccine, only 33 percent of the military has received the shot (as of May 5th) and there is nothing leadership can do but beg the troops to get it.

Guess what the difference is??? (It has lots to do with why lots of folks are refusing to be vaccinated)

And for the record, the wife and I have been fully vaccinated...

What’s the difference?

The short answer is, Congress exempted the military from mandatory vaccination of anything under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) which is how the Covid vaccines were rushed out in less than 9 months...

Under 10 U.S. Code § 1107a - Emergency use products

that requires informed consent prior to military members receiving vaccinations issued under an emergency use authorization (EUA). All three COVID-19 vaccinations being used in the United States —Moderna, Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer—are being administered under an EUA. And all three have not been fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration. By some estimates, full approval may take up to two years.

https://www.justsecurity.org/75729/shou ... -military/

Now, the President may be able to waive that law, but having spoken with a number of active military members who are opposed to taking the vaccine prior to full approval, that will not go over well with a large chunk of the military...they will obey but...

[Pwns]

[Ibanez]

Nancy needs to remove the mask mandate in the House and wait for MTG, Boebert, etc. to get sick. Once the some of the anti-vaxxers start getting sick, the some of the others will start rethinking their position.

And that's an option. But the CDC was pretty clear, we should be doing away with masks for vaccinated people, indoors or outside, except in very specific locations. Pretty sure Congress isn't one of them. If anti-vaxxers want to take the risk then so be it - the risk is on them and those like them. There's nothing saying you can't continue to wear a mask if you want to, free country and all. So those who would get the vaccine but don't for a medical reason (say immunocompromised) can keep wearing masks. Frankly, if they're that immunocompromised they probably should've been wearing masks all along.

I don't wear a mask anymore. Lowes has removed their signs, it's not enforced in places like the Post Office and i'm fully vaccinated.

I've seen people wearing pins that say " COVID-19 Vaccinated". I guess as a way to let others know they're safe to be near (and not anti-vaxxers by default?)

[Ibanez]

Just booked the youngest for his first tomorrow. Rest of us are good.

Will continue to get jabbed as recommended. Was off and on with the flu but recommitted January of 2020 when a golf league teammate went from feeling a little off to life support in 3 days. Died 4 days later at age 48...of the flu.

YIKES! I've never had the flu nor the flu shot. Can't take the flu shot (and a few others)

[Winterborn]

The paper trail (i.e. money) to that lab is quite interesting and it is no wonder Dr. Fauci likes dodge those questions when the topic comes up.

[UNI88]

And that's an option. But the CDC was pretty clear, we should be doing away with masks for vaccinated people, indoors or outside, except in very specific locations. Pretty sure Congress isn't one of them. If anti-vaxxers want to take the risk then so be it - the risk is on them and those like them. There's nothing saying you can't continue to wear a mask if you want to, free country and all. So those who would get the vaccine but don't for a medical reason (say immunocompromised) can keep wearing masks. Frankly, if they're that immunocompromised they probably should've been wearing masks all along.

I don't wear a mask anymore. Lowes has removed their signs, it's not enforced in places like the Post Office and i'm fully vaccinated.

I've seen people wearing pins that say " COVID-19 Vaccinated". I guess as a way to let others know they're safe to be near (and not anti-vaxxers by default?)

Is someone who has been vaccinated safer to be near? Couldn't they still be carrying the virus but not feeling the effects? The vaccine makes it safer for them to be around others?

[kalm]

The paper trail (i.e. money) to that lab is quite interesting and it is no wonder Dr. Fauci likes dodge those questions when the topic comes up.

$200 million of tax payer money to fund a Chinese lab to stay ahead of the next pandemic through gain of function studies.

Seems like SARS 1 freaked everyone the fuck out and this was proactive research that ended like half of the horror stories ever written.

[89Hen]

I'm just amazed at how people still love and revere Fauci. And most of them are ones that are amazed at how people still love and revere Trump.