Trump's Secret Documents. The World awaits.

[houndawg]

You voted for Obama. Shameful.

Are you OK? We're anxiously awaiting your regular updates on the Hunter Biden situation, got any news for us?

[SeattleGriz]

You voted for Obama. Shameful.

Are you OK? We're anxiously awaiting your regular updates on the Hunter Biden situation, got any news for us?

You are confusing me with someone else. I haven't been following Hunter very closely.

[houndawg]

Are you OK? We're anxiously awaiting your regular updates on the Hunter Biden situation, got any news for us?

You are confusing me with someone else. I haven't been following Hunter very closely.

You're about 200 of the 700-odd postes.

[SeattleGriz]

Huh. Trump's document case is being prosecuted from DC pretty much.

This sure seems like trying to game the system.

[houndawg]

Huh. Trump's document case is being prosecuted from DC pretty much.

This sure seems like trying to game the system.

...somebody else probably has them now. Pay attention to when Trimp suddenly is able to post bond, it should be a great story

[houndawg]

Huh. Trump's document case is being prosecuted from DC pretty much.

This sure seems like trying to game the system.

Prosecuting a federal case in DC is trying to game the system?

They're trying to keep classified documents away from a defendant who is desperate to find a half-billion dollars he doesn't have in spite of supposedly being worth more than $10,000,000,000.

You'd think somebody who had nothing to hide would want a speedy trial.

[SeattleGriz]

Seems something happened in this bogus case.

[kalm]

Seems something happened in this bogus case.

Yep.

[UNI88]

Seems something happened in this bogus case.

To paraphrase BDK, thanks to a Constitution hating, trump fellating, rightist judge.

Now they can appeal to the 11th Circuit. If that fails the case can be brought by the U.S. Attorney in the southern district of Florida

[SeattleGriz]

Seems something happened in this bogus case.

To paraphrase BDK, thanks to a Constitution hating, trump fellating, rightist judge.

Now they can appeal to the 11th Circuit. If that fails the case can be brought by the U.S. Attorney in the southern district of Florida

Wow. You spread hate about Trump and now go for a judge who's ruling you don't even understand.

When are you going to learn? I sure hope no one goes after Cannon.

[UNI88]

To paraphrase BDK, thanks to a Constitution hating, trump fellating, rightist judge.

Now they can appeal to the 11th Circuit. If that fails the case can be brought by the U.S. Attorney in the southern district of Florida

Wow. You spread hate about Trump and now go for a judge who's ruling you don't even understand.

When are you going to learn? I sure hope no one goes after Cannon.

I have 1st Amendment right to speak my mind! Any attempt to restrict me from giving my thoughts and opinions on the legal battles of a presidential candidate is election interference!

Why didn't you tell BDK he was spreading hate about judges and questioning his understanding of their rulings when he was calling them trump hating leftist judges? I sure hope no one went after those judges as a result.

Why do you continue to provide examples of your double standard/hypocrisy?

[SeattleGriz]

Wow. You spread hate about Trump and now go for a judge who's ruling you don't even understand.

When are you going to learn? I sure hope no one goes after Cannon.

I have 1st Amendment right to speak my mind! Any attempt to restrict me from giving my thoughts and opinions on the legal battles of a presidential candidate is election interference!

Why didn't you tell BDK he was spreading hate about judges and questioning his understanding of their rulings when he was calling them trump hating leftist judges? I sure hope no one went after those judges as a result.

Why do you continue to provide examples of your double standard/hypocrisy?

Why do you resort to childish whataboutism to cover up your unhinged ranting? Thought you were an adult. My bad.

[UNI88]

I have 1st Amendment right to speak my mind! Any attempt to restrict me from giving my thoughts and opinions on the legal battles of a presidential candidate is election interference!

Why didn't you tell BDK he was spreading hate about judges and questioning his understanding of their rulings when he was calling them trump hating leftist judges? I sure hope no one went after those judges as a result.

Why do you continue to provide examples of your double standard/hypocrisy?

Why do you resort to childish whataboutism to cover up your unhinged ranting? Thought you were an adult. My bad.

It would be easier just to type "I've got nothing. My bad." than whining about childish behavior on a message board.

[Bobcat]

Then type that

[UNI88]

Then type that

SG, BC, and CH got nothing. Their bad.

Better?

Or do you really think I'm going to apologize for pointing out hypocrisy and mocking your golden calf?

[Bobcat]

I accept your apology

[Caribbean Hen]

Seems something happened in this bogus case.

To paraphrase BDK, thanks to a Constitution hating, trump fellating, rightist judge.

Now they can appeal to the 11th Circuit. If that fails the case can be brought by the U.S. Attorney in the southern district of Florida

Will they go after Jobozo Rotten with the same vigor?

[UNI88]

Experts: Cannon issued "first court decision of Project 2025" — but it may be "blessing in disguise"

“It’s more useful and illuminating to think of the dismissal as the first court decision of Project 2025, in which the rule of law takes an unabashed back seat to the preeminent principle of loyalty to Trump,” Litman wrote, referring to the Heritage Foundation's far-right plan for a second Trump administration. That’s the only way to read the efforts by Cannon (and the Supreme Court, frankly) to twist the Constitution in such a way as to benefit one man who has called for terminating the country’s founding document, he continued: “that this is entirely a matter of loyalty, not law.”

I disagree. The recent Cannon and SCOTUS rulings benefit trump in the short term but they would actually make it more difficult for him pursue his agenda if he's reelected. He would need Senate approval of a special prosecutor to engage in "lawfare". The gutting of Chevron would make it difficult for him to expand the reach of executive agencies without Congressional approval and it could be argued that he would need approval to gut agencies like Education. More fodder for lawsuits and countersuits that will slow down his agenda.

Watching him stew while his own tactics are used against him and his followers and opponents trade playbooks will be interesting.

[GannonFan]

Experts: Cannon issued "first court decision of Project 2025" — but it may be "blessing in disguise"

“It’s more useful and illuminating to think of the dismissal as the first court decision of Project 2025, in which the rule of law takes an unabashed back seat to the preeminent principle of loyalty to Trump,” Litman wrote, referring to the Heritage Foundation's far-right plan for a second Trump administration. That’s the only way to read the efforts by Cannon (and the Supreme Court, frankly) to twist the Constitution in such a way as to benefit one man who has called for terminating the country’s founding document, he continued: “that this is entirely a matter of loyalty, not law.”

I disagree. The recent Cannon and SCOTUS rulings benefit trump in the short term but they would actually make it more difficult for him pursue his agenda if he's reelected. He would need Senate approval of a special prosecutor to engage in "lawfare". The gutting of Chevron would make it difficult for him to expand the reach of executive agencies without Congressional approval and it could be argued that he would need approval to gut agencies like Education. More fodder for lawsuits and countersuits that will slow down his agenda.

Watching him stew while his own tactics are used against him and his followers and opponents trade playbooks will be interesting.

I agree with your disagreement. Regardless of Cannon's worth as a judge, the issue of special prosecutors and their powers and how they come into being has been hotly debated going all the way back to the aftermath of the Nixon presidency. Once again, we have an outcome of a branch of government (legislative) that has given a wink-wink to not to their job and to just have some things run on their own. If Congress wanted special prosecutors then it could just pass a statute saying that, like they used to have. And if we want to bring the case Smith was bringing here, then there are already federal attorneys who exist who can bring this case. Sometimes in all of the noise and ruckus it's useful to take a breath and see what is really going on.

[SeattleGriz]

Huh. Twats were wrong. Told you.

[houndawg]

Huh. Twats were wrong. Told you.

.... getting away with treason isn't the same thing as being innocent.. thank you for playing we have some lovely prizes for you. Next contestant please...

[bobbythekidd]

Huh. Twats were wrong. Told you.

.... getting away with treason isn't the same thing as being innocent.. thank you for playing we have some lovely prizes for you. Next contestant please...

To be be fair, he didn't commit treason. What he actually did was:

*Willful retention of national defense information
*False statements and representations
*Conspiracy to obstruct justice
*Withholding a document or record
*Corruptly concealing a document or record
*Concealing a document in a federal investigation
*Scheme to conceal
*Altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing an object
*Corruptly altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing a document, record, or other object

[UNI88]

.... getting away with treason isn't the same thing as being innocent.. thank you for playing we have some lovely prizes for you. Next contestant please...

To be be fair, he didn't commit treason. What he actually did was:

*Willful retention of national defense information
*False statements and representations
*Conspiracy to obstruct justice
*Withholding a document or record
*Corruptly concealing a document or record
*Concealing a document in a federal investigation
*Scheme to conceal
*Altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing an object
*Corruptly altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing a document, record, or other object

It could be reasonably argued that pardoning the January 6 defendants was giving aid and comfort to enemies of the United States.


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[bobbythekidd]

To be be fair, he didn't commit treason. What he actually did was:

*Willful retention of national defense information
*False statements and representations
*Conspiracy to obstruct justice
*Withholding a document or record
*Corruptly concealing a document or record
*Concealing a document in a federal investigation
*Scheme to conceal
*Altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing an object
*Corruptly altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing a document, record, or other object

It could be reasonably argued that pardoning the January 6 defendants was giving aid and comfort to enemies of the United States.


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I'm not sure i can agree with your assessment that the idiots that attempted to, at least, pause the function of our government, at best overthrow it, were traitors. That still doesn't make them enemies of the United States.

Below are listed lesser crimes that they can all be guilty of, but do not meet the level of traitor.

"Sedition (aka, Seditious Conspiracy) (18 U.S.C. § 2384): Defined as two or more people conspiring to "overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force" the U.S. government or prevent it from carrying out its lawful functions; OR to "seize, take, or possess by force" any property of the U.S. government. Several of the hundreds arrested after the Jan. 6 riot on the Capitol Building were charged with this crime.

*Rebellion or Insurrection (18 U.S.C. § 2383): Defined as two or more people rising in rebellion against the U.S. government or assisting others in rebelling.

*Advocating Overthrow of Government (18 U.S.C. § 2385): It is a federal crime to advocate, abet, advise, or teach the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing the government of the United States by force or violence, or to publish or circulate printed material advocating the overthrow of the government.

[SeattleGriz]

.... getting away with treason isn't the same thing as being innocent.. thank you for playing we have some lovely prizes for you. Next contestant please...

To be be fair, he didn't commit treason. What he actually did was:

*Willful retention of national defense information
*False statements and representations
*Conspiracy to obstruct justice
*Withholding a document or record
*Corruptly concealing a document or record
*Concealing a document in a federal investigation
*Scheme to conceal
*Altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing an object
*Corruptly altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing a document, record, or other object

You believe someone other than the President has power over the President to determine what is classified and what isn't?