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CitadelGrad wrote:
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Was Obama in the Situation Room or not? Make up your mind. :lol:
You fucking idiot. He was in the situation room for his Sandy photo op. He was not in the situation room during the Benghazi attack. If he was in the situation room then and had full knowledge of what was happening, he should be impeached and face a criminal trial.
Do you know where Obama was during the attack?
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CitadelGrad wrote:
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Was Obama in the Situation Room or not? Make up your mind. :lol:
You fucking idiot. He was in the situation room for his Sandy photo op. He was not in the situation room during the Benghazi attack. If he was in the situation room then and had full knowledge of what was happening, he should be impeached and face a criminal trial.
Yes. Because he is a donk and must be held responsible. If he was a conk you'd give him a pass and blame any donk that questioned him. Party first, country second. :ohno:

They should put you in charge, you clearly have all the answers. :roll:
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During the first wave of airstrikes to start the War in Iraq, I remember wathching an NBC White House correspondent report that George Bush was not interested in watching the news, turned off the T.V., and went to bed. I'm sure Graddy was all over that. :nod:
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kalm wrote:During the first wave of airstrikes to start the War in Iraq, I remember wathching an NBC White House correspondent report that George Bush was not interested in watching the news, turned off the T.V., and went to bed. I'm sure Graddy was all over that. :nod:
That's okay, Bush was a conk and could therefore do no wrong.

Thousands die in Iraq because we invaded a country with no WMD's and Bush gets a pass.
A handful of people die in Benghazi and we need to investigate the President.

No double standard there. :roll:
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kalm wrote:
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You fucking idiot. He was in the situation room for his Sandy photo op. He was not in the situation room during the Benghazi attack. If he was in the situation room then and had full knowledge of what was happening, he should be impeached and face a criminal trial.
Do you know where Obama was during the attack?
I don't. If he was not in the situation room, he was negligent. If he was in the situation room and did nothing as the live messages and videos came in, he was negligent.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:
Do you know where Obama was during the attack?
I don't. If he was not in the situation room, he was negligent. If he was in the situation room and did nothing as the live messages and videos came in, he was negligent.
Does he stay at the White House 24-7 (its an election year)? Does he have a situation room on Airforce 1? Maybe he forgot to arrange for the photo shoot this time. Point is, you don't know and you're about as reliable as Fox News. :lol:
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CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:
Do you know where Obama was during the attack?
I don't. If he was not in the situation room, he was negligent. If he was in the situation room and did nothing as the live messages and videos came in, he was negligent.
Was Bush negligent on 9/11/01? He definitely was not in the Situation Room, although he may have been surrounded by better advisors than the ones he appointed.
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BlueHen86 wrote:When 9/11/01 happened everyone got behind the President.

When 9/11/12 happened the GOP tried to use it for political gain. :ohno:
Bush on 9/15/01:
http://youtu.be/x7OCgMPX2mE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obama on 9/15/12:
http://youtu.be/BfiUQASpVdc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

THAT is the difference.

(Yeah, I may not have the exact dates right, but you get the point.)
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kalm wrote:
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I don't. If he was not in the situation room, he was negligent. If he was in the situation room and did nothing as the live messages and videos came in, he was negligent.
Does he stay at the White House 24-7 (its an election year)? Does he have a situation room on Airforce 1? Maybe he forgot to arrange for the photo shoot this time. Point is, you don't know and you're about as reliable as Fox News. :lol:
There is a situation room on AF1. It doesn't matter. If he wasn't in the situation room, he should have been. If he was in the situation room, he has no excuse for taking no action while the Benghazi consulate was being attacked.

The attack lasted seven hours and the CIA and DoD were observing the attack in real time. WTF don't you understand about that?
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BlueHen86 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
I don't. If he was not in the situation room, he was negligent. If he was in the situation room and did nothing as the live messages and videos came in, he was negligent.
Was Bush negligent on 9/11/01? He definitely was not in the Situation Room, although he may have been surrounded by better advisors than the ones he appointed.
I always knew you were an idiot, but until this thread I had no idea that you were houndawg and 6.93 stupid.
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CitadelGrad wrote:You fucking idiot. He was in the situation room for his Sandy photo op. He was not in the situation room during the Benghazi attack. If he was in the situation room then and had full knowledge of what was happening, he should be impeached and face a criminal trial.
kalm wrote:
Do you know where Obama was during the attack?
CitadelGrad wrote: I don't. If he was not in the situation room, he was negligent. If he was in the situation room and did nothing as the live messages and videos came in, he was negligent.
Holy shit dude. Make up your mind. The next time you call somebody a fucking idiot make sure you are looking in the mirror. Even Shannon Faulkner is embarrassed by you.

Dumbass.

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CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:
Does he stay at the White House 24-7 (its an election year)? Does he have a situation room on Airforce 1? Maybe he forgot to arrange for the photo shoot this time. Point is, you don't know and you're about as reliable as Fox News. :lol:
There is a situation room on AF1. It doesn't matter. If he wasn't in the situation room, he should have been. If he was in the situation room, he has no excuse for taking no action while the Benghazi consulate was being attacked.

The attack lasted seven hours and the CIA and DoD were observing the attack in real time. WTF don't you understand about that?
If (in case you didn't notice, that's kind of the key word here) you knew for sure what Obama was doing and that he was negligent...

Why do you hate America?

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C-grad, please let us know where Bush was during all of these...

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BlueHen86 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:The same people who criticized Bush for continuing to read a children's book as the 9-11 attacks occurred... they don't see the irony here at all.

It speaks volumes.
So, you are comparing a few kooks with a major news network that won't let a questionable story go.

Either it's a bad comparison, or you think FoxNews is full of kooks. :lol:
Questionable story? :lol:

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kalm wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
There is a situation room on AF1. It doesn't matter. If he wasn't in the situation room, he should have been. If he was in the situation room, he has no excuse for taking no action while the Benghazi consulate was being attacked.

The attack lasted seven hours and the CIA and DoD were observing the attack in real time. WTF don't you understand about that?
If (in case you didn't notice, that's kind of the key word here) you knew for sure what Obama was doing and that he was negligent...

Why do you hate America?

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It's Obama's position that he was not in the situation room during the attack.
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kalm wrote:C-grad, please let us know where Bush was during all of these...

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These attacks were bombing attacks. The Benghazi attack was a ground assault of 150-200 attackers and it lasted seven hours.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:
If (in case you didn't notice, that's kind of the key word here) you knew for sure what Obama was doing and that he was negligent...

Why do you hate America?

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It's Obama's position that he was not in the situation room during the attack.
Why? Where the hell was he?
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CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:C-grad, please let us know where Bush was during all of these...

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These attacks were bombing attacks. The Benghazi attack was a ground assault of 150-200 attackers and it lasted seven hours.
We were at war, you'd think he could have made it it for at least one. Quit making excuses.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:The same people who criticized Bush for continuing to read a children's book as the 9-11 attacks occurred... they don't see the irony here at all.

It speaks volumes.
So, you are comparing a few kooks with a major news network that won't let a questionable story go.

Either it's a bad comparison, or you think FoxNews is full of kooks. :lol:
Hen, not only is it not a questionable story, it goes much, much deeper than is being reported. The story is leak-fed. There is a reason for that. Career military, spooks and diplomats are not going to take the fall for political appointees, and that is why they are leaking this stuff, because they know the whole truth, and they also know that if the public knew, there would be an outcry.

Some networks have abrogated their responsibility to at least investigate to see if there has been malfeasance in our government. I do not care if Republicans or Democrats are in control; there is a lot of smoke surrounding this, including that Americans died after our post in Benghazi had already been under attack for FIVE HOURS. Somebody not only failed to take action, it appears that somebody REFUSED to take action. Of course FOX is running with this; they are right leaning. The problem is that the media is supposed to be a watchdog, yet they have completely surrendered their responsibility in that venue. It should be concerning to all of us. If there is truly nothing there, then fine. But at least ASK QUESTIONS and don't immediately switch into defense mode for "your guy".
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You forgot "were painting the mortar base with a laser for hours and couldn't get a laser guided bomb dropped to save their life". Literally.
Seems odd that an indirect fire weapon like a mortar would be deployed in such a way that it was in line-of-sight of its intended target, which it must have been if it was being painted with a laser. Could have been a trap to get some of our aircraft into Stinger range using the mortar as bait.
In Iraq I had the privilege of being mortared a few times, and about 80% of the time we could see the tube or the muzzle blast. Another reason they usually set up in line of sight is so they can adjust fire if they do not have a forward spotter, which was almost always the case.
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kalm wrote:
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It's Obama's position that he was not in the situation room during the attack.
Why? Where the hell was he?
That's what I'd like to know.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
kalm wrote:
Why? Where the hell was he?
That's what I'd like to know.
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CID1990 wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
So, you are comparing a few kooks with a major news network that won't let a questionable story go.

Either it's a bad comparison, or you think FoxNews is full of kooks. :lol:
Hen, not only is it not a questionable story, it goes much, much deeper than is being reported. The story is leak-fed. There is a reason for that. Career military, spooks and diplomats are not going to take the fall for political appointees, and that is why they are leaking this stuff, because they know the whole truth, and they also know that if the public knew, there would be an outcry.

Some networks have abrogated their responsibility to at least investigate to see if there has been malfeasance in our government. I do not care if Republicans or Democrats are in control; there is a lot of smoke surrounding this, including that Americans died after our post in Benghazi had already been under attack for FIVE HOURS. Somebody not only failed to take action, it appears that somebody REFUSED to take action. Of course FOX is running with this; they are right leaning. The problem is that the media is supposed to be a watchdog, yet they have completely surrendered their responsibility in that venue. It should be concerning to all of us. If there is truly nothing there, then fine. But at least ASK QUESTIONS and don't immediately switch into defense mode for "your guy".
Obama isn't my guy, and I'm not switching into defense mode. I consider the story questionable because there are stories out there that dispute it. Somebody is not telling the truth, I'm not ready to say for sure who it is.
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