∞∞∞ wrote:Getting loans and credit is typically easier as a white person. White people have an easier time climbing up corporate ladders, being promoted, and awarded contracts. Whites typically have higher salaries. Whites still disproportionately control political positions. And the opinions of white people typically have stronger value in American society (see complete dismissal of BLM movement).
And let's not even start with the justice system and the advantages whites face there.
Trip, your not wrong but like most of life it isn't quite as clear cut as what you've posted.
Getting loans and credit is typically easier as a white person - 89 already responded.
White people have an easier time climbing up corporate ladders, being promoted, and awarded contracts - I have anecdotal evidence (just like you have anecdotal evidence to the contrary from your friends) that this isn't true. I worked for a Fortune 500 company from 1988 - 2000 and my experience was that they were actively looking to promote minorities and women into middle management positions to the point where it was harder for a white male to get ahead than a person of color or a female. I had to seek out and succeed at high risk assignments (the kind that would ruin my career if I failed) in order to be noticed and promoted while others had a much better chance of getting a cushy assignment where they just had to do their time before being promoted. At the time the C-suites were still very white but I think even that has changed in the 17-18 years since. This isn't me bitching about what I had to do to get ahead, I understood that people of color and women had gotten screwed over for years and this was an attempt to create a more representative workforce but it did kind of suck that I was the one that had to bust my butt when I hadn't benefited from them being screwed over. I also think it was a huge mistake when it comes to developing good leaders. I experienced some pretty tough times and had to make difficult decisions with those high risk assignments but they taught me how to handle adversity in a way that being coddled can't.
Whites typically have higher salaries - overall you're probably right but it isn't all attributable to race. How much of that is because they're white and how much is because they started out in a middle class or better family, went to college and have a higher paying job as a result?
The opinions of white people typically have stronger value in American society (see complete dismissal of BLM movement) - I agree that there can be issues with how authorities respond to people of color vs. whites so I think BLM (and Kaepernick) shining a light on it is a positive thing. I also think they're overlooking a much bigger issue which is black on black crime. An incremental improvement there will save a whole lot more lives than police reform but not enough people want to talk about it. Another problem is that too many liberals seem to think that any officer shooting is a misuse of force and that isn't the case. People need to be more level-headed like this liberal commentator -
Frame by frame: Takeaways from a careful look at the University of Chicago police shooting video.
And let's not even start with the justice system and the advantages whites face there - I'm not going to argue that one because I think there are issues there that need to be addressed.
How is Hillary and other liberals/progressives calling me or people like me (since I didn't actually vote for Trump) a deplorable ok? Isn't it wrong to put down another person or group of people because of their skin color, gender, religion, or political beliefs? I'm a white male in my 50's and I try to be open-minded but I feel like old white guys are the last people in this country that it is ok to discriminate against. If it wasn't ok to marginalize people of color, women and transgenders in the past, why is it ok to marginalize white males now? Shouldn't a true progressive being pushing for equality without payback? Payback is what led those "deplorables" to support Trump.
And for the record, I grew up in a middle class family and I started out with the advantage of having parents who pushed me to do well academically and left me enough money to pay for my undergraduate degree without loans. My Dad was 1 of 17 kids of a small dairy farmer and the only one who went to college. He busted his butt to raise 9 kids and put all of them through college except one who dropped out. Are you going to tell me that my Dad was privileged? I'm not ashamed of my parent's hard work and I see no problem with them using the fruits of their labor to give me a leg up just like I want to give my kids a leg up.
