Minnesota is planning moving the date of the peak and ramping up ICU capacity. More or less, sacrifice for your grandchildren, but we will have a hospital bed for you.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:08 pmThere’s a very good chance we won’t be out of stay at home orders until summer. The best weapons for returning to some sense of normal are hammering it now and massive financial aid. Regardless, will be years of financial consequences and economic restructuring.
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At some point that is going to be the point of flattening the curve - you can't stop the number of people who are going to get it (well, to a point you can't) but you need to buy time to get the ICU's and the equipment up and running and ready for the wave when it happens. Nothing short of a vaccine is going to stop this so buy time to be prepared and then hope you prepared enough to manage it when it happens.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:23 pmMinnesota is planning moving the date of the peak and ramping up ICU capacity. More or less, sacrifice for your grandchildren, but we will have a hospital bed for you.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:08 pm
There’s a very good chance we won’t be out of stay at home orders until summer. The best weapons for returning to some sense of normal are hammering it now and massive financial aid. Regardless, will be years of financial consequences and economic restructuring.
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Governor said we are past the point of flattening the curve. Expecting 2.5 million to have the virus by the peak, in 14 weeks. Stay at home is pushing the date out to help the ICU capacity. Otherwise 6000 people that need 235 beds in 9 weeks. He's giving it time to ramp up ICU capacity.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:31 pmAt some point that is going to be the point of flattening the curve - you can't stop the number of people who are going to get it (well, to a point you can't) but you need to buy time to get the ICU's and the equipment up and running and ready for the wave when it happens. Nothing short of a vaccine is going to stop this so buy time to be prepared and then hope you prepared enough to manage it when it happens.

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Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:38 pmGovernor said we are past the point of flattening the curve. Expecting 2.5 million to have the virus by the peak, in 14 weeks. Stay at home is pushing the date out to help the ICU capacity. Otherwise 6000 people that need 235 beds in 9 weeks. He's giving it time to ramp up ICU capacity.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:31 pm
At some point that is going to be the point of flattening the curve - you can't stop the number of people who are going to get it (well, to a point you can't) but you need to buy time to get the ICU's and the equipment up and running and ready for the wave when it happens. Nothing short of a vaccine is going to stop this so buy time to be prepared and then hope you prepared enough to manage it when it happens.
It starts to get better once 100% testing is available and quick. It’s gets better again if/when drug therapy goes online. Back to a new normal with vaccine.
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Yikes, that's a lot!
Only 50,000,000 behind the number that got the flu this year.

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I hope not. Would probably lose a few friends and family if that happened. Concerned about my wife for one.

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Maybe there is hope for 89 ...

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Permanently stop it yes. If this thing is cyclical like some docs have been saying then it will peter out, then flare up again, peter out then flare up again...GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:31 pmAt some point that is going to be the point of flattening the curve - you can't stop the number of people who are going to get it (well, to a point you can't) but you need to buy time to get the ICU's and the equipment up and running and ready for the wave when it happens. Nothing short of a vaccine is going to stop this so buy time to be prepared and then hope you prepared enough to manage it when it happens.
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I've heard a number of epidemiologists saying for the last week that will likely peak in 3-4 weeks, with some areas later..Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:38 pmGovernor said we are past the point of flattening the curve. Expecting 2.5 million to have the virus by the peak, in 14 weeks. Stay at home is pushing the date out to help the ICU capacity. Otherwise 6000 people that need 235 beds in 9 weeks. He's giving it time to ramp up ICU capacity.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:31 pm
At some point that is going to be the point of flattening the curve - you can't stop the number of people who are going to get it (well, to a point you can't) but you need to buy time to get the ICU's and the equipment up and running and ready for the wave when it happens. Nothing short of a vaccine is going to stop this so buy time to be prepared and then hope you prepared enough to manage it when it happens.
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I hope you are right and the Minnesota guys are wrong.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:53 pmI've heard a number of epidemiologists saying for the last week that will likely peak in 3-4 weeks, with some areas later..Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:38 pm
Governor said we are past the point of flattening the curve. Expecting 2.5 million to have the virus by the peak, in 14 weeks. Stay at home is pushing the date out to help the ICU capacity. Otherwise 6000 people that need 235 beds in 9 weeks. He's giving it time to ramp up ICU capacity.

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I think we’re going to be locked down well into the summer. I’m fully expecting to extend well past my 1 July departure date here.
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The company I work for has the corporate headquarters in Bloomington, MN. Right now they're working as normal, but are having people work at home where they can (and for a corporate site that can be a fair number of people).
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That would be close to 45% of Minnesota's current 2020 5.7 million population estimate. Was he talking about confirmed positive, or also including assuming numerous untested with it?Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:38 pmGovernor said we are past the point of flattening the curve. Expecting 2.5 million to have the virus by the peak, in 14 weeks. Stay at home is pushing the date out to help the ICU capacity. Otherwise 6000 people that need 235 beds in 9 weeks. He's giving it time to ramp up ICU capacity.GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:31 pm
At some point that is going to be the point of flattening the curve - you can't stop the number of people who are going to get it (well, to a point you can't) but you need to buy time to get the ICU's and the equipment up and running and ready for the wave when it happens. Nothing short of a vaccine is going to stop this so buy time to be prepared and then hope you prepared enough to manage it when it happens.
Dr Birx clearly knows her stuff. She covers more of the data analysis side, while Dr Fauci covers more of the virus itself. Birx pointed out yesterday during the daily briefing, there's not a single country yet that has had positive tests in more than 1 in 1,000 people.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... lysis.html"Models are models. When people start talking about 20% of a population getting infected, it's very scary, but we don't have data that matches that based on our experience."
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Starting at mid-nite today, Minnesota is Shelter in Place until April 10. Companies that meet requirements, can continue to keep their office open. The rest of us work from home or don't work. One daughter is off during this, the other one works from home. My company is mandatory work from home.

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They'll still be open. Company makes a lot of filters, and a lot goes into the medical industries. My plant here in PA is still open despite the shelter in place that PA has had instituted - sales force and marketing folks can work from home, manufacturing-related still work like nothing has changed, just with a lot more social distancing, no visitors to the site, and a lot of repetitive cleaning.Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:54 amStarting at mid-nite today, Minnesota is Shelter in Place until April 10. Companies that meet requirements, can continue to keep their office open. The rest of us work from home or don't work. One daughter is off during this, the other one works from home. My company is mandatory work from home.
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Gil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:38 pm Governor said we are past the point of flattening the curve. Expecting 2.5 million to have the virus by the peak, in 14 weeks. Stay at home is pushing the date out to help the ICU capacity. Otherwise 6000 people that need 235 beds in 9 weeks. He's giving it time to ramp up ICU capacity.
U Washington Study (updated daily) says national peak around April 15 and Minnesota (can click on each state) April 18.
https://www.wrbl.com/news/health/corona ... ronavirus/
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
Today's press conference Dr Birx citing study by international modelers from Harvard, Columbia, Northeastern, Imperial (UK), etc have that compares with the U of Washington study.
I wonder who the gov of Minnesota is getting his info from for a 13 week/late June peak (in deaths). Maybe you heard it wrong.
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Hoping for the UW study, planning for the Minnesota study.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:13 pmGil Dobie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:38 pm Governor said we are past the point of flattening the curve. Expecting 2.5 million to have the virus by the peak, in 14 weeks. Stay at home is pushing the date out to help the ICU capacity. Otherwise 6000 people that need 235 beds in 9 weeks. He's giving it time to ramp up ICU capacity.U Washington Study (updated daily) says national peak around April 15 and Minnesota (can click on each state) April 18.
https://www.wrbl.com/news/health/corona ... ronavirus/
https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
Today's press conference Dr Birx citing study by international modelers from Harvard, Columbia, Northeastern, Imperial (UK), etc have that compares with the U of Washington study.
I wonder who the gov of Minnesota is getting his info from for a 13 week/late June peak (in deaths). Maybe you heard it wrong.



