The Official "Making America Woke Again" Thread

[UNI88]

Is there racially driven police violence? Yes. Is it a huge problem? There is quite a bit of statistical data that says it isn't.

Are there members of the alt-right who have bought into the Qanon conspiracy BS? Yes. Are they the majority? I don't know. I'm pretty sure that there a lot of people on the right who feel that their government is more interested in feathering their own nests and perpetuating the myth that big government is good than they are in actually leading this country. Supporting Trump was an FU to the big government types.

Enablers keep throwing up MTG and her ilk to shine the spotlight away from some of the legitimate concerns of Trump supporters and the failings of big government.

Enablers? Who are the enablers and what are they enabling?



As for the rest, something, something...and Mussolini trains on time.

Whether you think police violence is a legit concern or not, civil unrest over that is a different battle than accepting electoral defeat.

What happened on January 6 did not happen in a vacuum. What happened before both angered people and made them ask if they can get away with that why can't we? Focusing only on the events of January 6 ignores the bigger picture and makes it difficult to truly address the problems that this country is facing.

I think police violence is a legit concern. I think that minorities are targeted more often than whites. I support police reform. I think that black on black crime kills and injures a lot more people than racially driven police violence and wonder if the BLM movement distracts people from seeing & addressing the bigger problem. I also think that a lot of the punks in AnTiFa used and continue to use the BLM movement as a smokescreen to loot and riot. I feel strongly that AnTiFa is a anarchist organization that uses fascist tactics and should absolutely be classified as a terrorist organization and given the same treatment that you want to give the MAGAts.

I worry about this country because fascism is justifiably considered evil while elements of socialism/marxism are embraced by many on the left. I worry about this country because socialism/marxism justifiably considered evil while elements of fascism are embraced by many on the right. The hammer & sickle is just as much a symbol of hate, evil and oppression as the swastika.

I find the concept of "detoxing" conservatives frighteningly illiberal and authoritarian. It is an example of the neo-religious, imperialistic self-righteousness of pseudo-progressives. How is their certainty that they are right and their cause is just different from imperialistic European's claims of divine right, manifest destiny, etc. to justify their taking what they wanted and forcing their ways on others?

[SDHornet]

Enablers? Who are the enablers and what are they enabling?



As for the rest, something, something...and Mussolini trains on time.

Whether you think police violence is a legit concern or not, civil unrest over that is a different battle than accepting electoral defeat.

What happened on January 6 did not happen in a vacuum. What happened before both angered people and made them ask if they can get away with that why can't we? Focusing only on the events of January 6 ignores the bigger picture and makes it difficult to truly address the problems that this country is facing.

I think police violence is a legit concern. I think that minorities are targeted more often than whites. I support police reform. I think that black on black crime kills and injures a lot more people than racially driven police violence and wonder if the BLM movement distracts people from seeing & addressing the bigger problem. I also think that a lot of the punks in AnTiFa used and continue to use the BLM movement as a smokescreen to loot and riot. I feel strongly that AnTiFa is a anarchist organization that uses fascist tactics and should absolutely be classified as a terrorist organization and given the same treatment that you want to give the MAGAts.

I worry about this country because fascism is justifiably considered evil while elements of socialism/marxism are embraced by many on the left. I worry about this country because socialism/marxism justifiably considered evil while elements of fascism are embraced by many on the right. The hammer & sickle is just as much a symbol of hate, evil and oppression as the swastika.

I find the concept of "detoxing" conservatives frighteningly illiberal and authoritarian. It is an example of the neo-religious, imperialistic self-righteousness of pseudo-progressives. How is their certainty that they are right and their cause is just different from imperialistic European's claims of divine right, manifest destiny, etc. to justify their taking what they wanted and forcing their ways on others?

Well said.

[AZGrizFan]

Enablers? Who are the enablers and what are they enabling?



As for the rest, something, something...and Mussolini trains on time.

Whether you think police violence is a legit concern or not, civil unrest over that is a different battle than accepting electoral defeat.

What happened on January 6 did not happen in a vacuum. What happened before both angered people and made them ask if they can get away with that why can't we? Focusing only on the events of January 6 ignores the bigger picture and makes it difficult to truly address the problems that this country is facing.

I think police violence is a legit concern. I think that minorities are targeted more often than whites. I support police reform. I think that black on black crime kills and injures a lot more people than racially driven police violence and wonder if the BLM movement distracts people from seeing & addressing the bigger problem. I also think that a lot of the punks in AnTiFa used and continue to use the BLM movement as a smokescreen to loot and riot. I feel strongly that AnTiFa is a anarchist organization that uses fascist tactics and should absolutely be classified as a terrorist organization and given the same treatment that you want to give the MAGAts.

I worry about this country because fascism is justifiably considered evil while elements of socialism/marxism are embraced by many on the left. I worry about this country because socialism/marxism justifiably considered evil while elements of fascism are embraced by many on the right. The hammer & sickle is just as much a symbol of hate, evil and oppression as the swastika.

I find the concept of "detoxing" conservatives frighteningly illiberal and authoritarian. It is an example of the neo-religious, imperialistic self-righteousness of pseudo-progressives. How is their certainty that they are right and their cause is just different from imperialistic European's claims of divine right, manifest destiny, etc. to justify their taking what they wanted and forcing their ways on others?

With CID absent, you are rapidly becoming my favorite poster, 88. VERY well said.

[Ibanez]

Enablers? Who are the enablers and what are they enabling?



As for the rest, something, something...and Mussolini trains on time.

Whether you think police violence is a legit concern or not, civil unrest over that is a different battle than accepting electoral defeat.

What happened on January 6 did not happen in a vacuum. What happened before both angered people and made them ask if they can get away with that why can't we? Focusing only on the events of January 6 ignores the bigger picture and makes it difficult to truly address the problems that this country is facing.

I think police violence is a legit concern. I think that minorities are targeted more often than whites. I support police reform. I think that black on black crime kills and injures a lot more people than racially driven police violence and wonder if the BLM movement distracts people from seeing & addressing the bigger problem. I also think that a lot of the punks in AnTiFa used and continue to use the BLM movement as a smokescreen to loot and riot. I feel strongly that AnTiFa is a anarchist organization that uses fascist tactics and should absolutely be classified as a terrorist organization and given the same treatment that you want to give the MAGAts.

I worry about this country because fascism is justifiably considered evil while elements of socialism/marxism are embraced by many on the left. I worry about this country because socialism/marxism justifiably considered evil while elements of fascism are embraced by many on the right. The hammer & sickle is just as much a symbol of hate, evil and oppression as the swastika.

I find the concept of "detoxing" conservatives frighteningly illiberal and authoritarian. It is an example of the neo-religious, imperialistic self-righteousness of pseudo-progressives. How is their certainty that they are right and their cause is just different from imperialistic European's claims of divine right, manifest destiny, etc. to justify their taking what they wanted and forcing their ways on others?

Love it. Both sides seem to be accepting one dangerous ideology while excusing another. We saw it last summer with the BLM riots and we saw it last month with the MAGA riot.

[houndawg]

What' are Illinois' income tax rates and sales taxes?

Houndbrah is probably going to duck this one so ...

• Sales Tax = 6.25% for state, total sales tax can be as high as 11% depending on the county and municipality. I think Chicago is 10.25%
• Income Tax = 4.95%
• Property Tax = 2nd highest in the country. Statewide average is double the national average.

Now try it without Chicago skewing things. I think <$2300 is pretty good for a house, barn, pool, and 25 acres. What would youns be paying for a set up like that where you're located? Granted 25 acres in AZ is maybe enough to graze one burro...

[houndawg]

So thats how its going to be in 900 years?

stupid fuck

Maybe in 900 years, Little Egypt will have running water, dental care and people won't be fvcking their cousins.

That crowd moved to Iowa long ago.

[kalm]

Houndbrah is probably going to duck this one so ...

• Sales Tax = 6.25% for state, total sales tax can be as high as 11% depending on the county and municipality. I think Chicago is 10.25%
• Income Tax = 4.95%
• Property Tax = 2nd highest in the country. Statewide average is double the national average.

Now try it without Chicago skewing things. I think <$2300 is pretty good for a house, barn, pool, and 25 acres. What would youns be paying for a set up like that where you're located? Granted 25 acres in AZ is maybe enough to graze one burro...

Considerably less than ours for what’s probably a similar property. Although WA doesn’t have income tax. Every state seems to be 2nd highest in taxes except that the top 25 are all within a small percentage of each other.

They get it one way or another or they’re like Idaho with shitty shitty roads and schools.

[kalm]

Enablers? Who are the enablers and what are they enabling?



As for the rest, something, something...and Mussolini trains on time.

Whether you think police violence is a legit concern or not, civil unrest over that is a different battle than accepting electoral defeat.

What happened on January 6 did not happen in a vacuum. What happened before both angered people and made them ask if they can get away with that why can't we? Focusing only on the events of January 6 ignores the bigger picture and makes it difficult to truly address the problems that this country is facing.

I think police violence is a legit concern. I think that minorities are targeted more often than whites. I support police reform. I think that black on black crime kills and injures a lot more people than racially driven police violence and wonder if the BLM movement distracts people from seeing & addressing the bigger problem. I also think that a lot of the punks in AnTiFa used and continue to use the BLM movement as a smokescreen to loot and riot. I feel strongly that AnTiFa is a anarchist organization that uses fascist tactics and should absolutely be classified as a terrorist organization and given the same treatment that you want to give the MAGAts.

I worry about this country because fascism is justifiably considered evil while elements of socialism/marxism are embraced by many on the left. I worry about this country because socialism/marxism justifiably considered evil while elements of fascism are embraced by many on the right. The hammer & sickle is just as much a symbol of hate, evil and oppression as the swastika.

I find the concept of "detoxing" conservatives frighteningly illiberal and authoritarian. It is an example of the neo-religious, imperialistic self-righteousness of pseudo-progressives. How is their certainty that they are right and their cause is just different from imperialistic European's claims of divine right, manifest destiny, etc. to justify their taking what they wanted and forcing their ways on others?

You’re asking me to defend Antifa? Because the alt right is dangerous right now?

How about we fight both? No detoxing. Just enforce laws on the books aggressively.

Btw, your allusion to the hammer and sickle reminded me of a Milt Priggee (award winning Spokesman Review cartoonist) cartoon from the early 90’s. It was 4 simple symbols. The hammer and sickle, swastika, skull and cross bones, and the Nike swoosh.

[AZGrizFan]

What happened on January 6 did not happen in a vacuum. What happened before both angered people and made them ask if they can get away with that why can't we? Focusing only on the events of January 6 ignores the bigger picture and makes it difficult to truly address the problems that this country is facing.

I think police violence is a legit concern. I think that minorities are targeted more often than whites. I support police reform. I think that black on black crime kills and injures a lot more people than racially driven police violence and wonder if the BLM movement distracts people from seeing & addressing the bigger problem. I also think that a lot of the punks in AnTiFa used and continue to use the BLM movement as a smokescreen to loot and riot. I feel strongly that AnTiFa is a anarchist organization that uses fascist tactics and should absolutely be classified as a terrorist organization and given the same treatment that you want to give the MAGAts.

I worry about this country because fascism is justifiably considered evil while elements of socialism/marxism are embraced by many on the left. I worry about this country because socialism/marxism justifiably considered evil while elements of fascism are embraced by many on the right. The hammer & sickle is just as much a symbol of hate, evil and oppression as the swastika.

I find the concept of "detoxing" conservatives frighteningly illiberal and authoritarian. It is an example of the neo-religious, imperialistic self-righteousness of pseudo-progressives. How is their certainty that they are right and their cause is just different from imperialistic European's claims of divine right, manifest destiny, etc. to justify their taking what they wanted and forcing their ways on others?

You’re asking me to defend Antifa? Because the alt right is dangerous right now?

How about we fight both? No detoxing. Just enforce laws on the books aggressively.

Btw, your allusion to the hammer and sickle reminded me of a Milt Priggee (award winning Spokesman Review cartoonist) cartoon from the early 90’s. It was 4 simple symbols. The hammer and sickle, swastika, skull and cross bones, and the Nike swoosh.

Milt was ahead of his time. Today’s cartoon might have Nike, Amazon, Google and FB on it.

[UNI88]

Houndbrah is probably going to duck this one so ...

• Sales Tax = 6.25% for state, total sales tax can be as high as 11% depending on the county and municipality. I think Chicago is 10.25%
• Income Tax = 4.95%
• Property Tax = 2nd highest in the country. Statewide average is double the national average.

Now try it without Chicago skewing things. I think <$2300 is pretty good for a house, barn, pool, and 25 acres. What would youns be paying for a set up like that where you're located? Granted 25 acres in AZ is maybe enough to graze one burro...

What is the property valued at? <$2,300 sounds pretty good but comparing tax rates is dependent on the value of the property.

Since we're discussing high tax rates in Donk paradises, Chicago absolutely belongs in the discussion. I would guess that 75-80% of the people in Illinois live in and around Chicago. Chicago and Madiganistan are swimming in debt and unfunded pension liability due to mismanagement and giving away pension benefits that they can't afford. If the state of Illinois was a private enterprise they would have to declare bankruptcy. The state is worse run than the Trump Organization and what and how much they tax is going to continue to increase.

[SeattleGriz]

Kerry is part of the Biden administration, so this belongs.

Listen to this gasbag defend his usage of a private jet to fly around the World to "fight" global warming. Can't watch it without giggling at how ridiculous his answer is.

[BDKJMU]

Kerry is part of the Biden administration, so this belongs.

Listen to this gasbag defend his usage of a private jet to fly around the World to "fight" global warming. Can't watch it without giggling at how ridiculous his answer is.

What an elitist prick.

sidestepping the fact that he chose a private jet over a commercial flight. .

.....Private jets have been estimated to emit upward of 40 times as much carbon per passenger as commercial flights.

It's unclear how Kerry has been offsetting his carbon output, as he claimed, but flight logs indicated that his family's private jet spent over 20 hours in the air over the past year -- culminating in an estimated 116 metric tons of carbon emissions.

For comparison, a March 2018 report from Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimated that the typical passenger vehicle emits about 4.6 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year. That calculation assumed a car that drives around 11,500 miles per year with a fuel economy of about 22.0 miles per gallon.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-k ... mate-award
Anyone who owns multiple large homes, numerous expensive vehicles, flies by private jet, owns a yacht, rides around in an SUV convoy (I don't care if they are staff & security) etc, etc, has zero credibility lecturing others on the environment. Anytime Kerry opens his mouth in regards to the environment, he should be hammered for being a hypocrite.

[SeattleGriz]

Kerry is part of the Biden administration, so this belongs.

Listen to this gasbag defend his usage of a private jet to fly around the World to "fight" global warming. Can't watch it without giggling at how ridiculous his answer is.

What an elitist prick.

sidestepping the fact that he chose a private jet over a commercial flight. .

.....Private jets have been estimated to emit upward of 40 times as much carbon per passenger as commercial flights.

It's unclear how Kerry has been offsetting his carbon output, as he claimed, but flight logs indicated that his family's private jet spent over 20 hours in the air over the past year -- culminating in an estimated 116 metric tons of carbon emissions.

For comparison, a March 2018 report from Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimated that the typical passenger vehicle emits about 4.6 metric tons of carbon dioxide per year. That calculation assumed a car that drives around 11,500 miles per year with a fuel economy of about 22.0 miles per gallon.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-k ... mate-award
Anyone who owns multiple large homes, numerous expensive vehicles, flies by private jet, owns a yacht, rides around in an SUV convoy (I don't care if they are staff & security) etc, etc, has zero credibility lecturing others on the environment. Anytime Kerry opens his mouth in regards to the environment, he should be hammered for being a hypocrite.

He acts like he doesn't have any support staff under him that could arrange travel.

Hell, even Greta took a boat...one way.

[SDHornet]

AOChe getting trolled on Twitter after getting called out for her lie on her "near death" experience during the Capitol Riot.

[∞∞∞]

How was it not near-death? They stormed the Capitol looking for representatives to capture. AOC is one of the biggest targets for the right, she's a sexual-abuse victim and had to hide in a bathroom in her office. That's a terrifying situation for anyone, especially someone who's experienced prior trauma. And who cares if she wasn't in the main building? The entire complex is connected.

Doesn't help some police and GOP congress critters seemed to be working with rioters.

The right will never understand why people - especially young people - love AOC. She's a teflon politician and will be President one day.

[SDHornet]

How was it not near-death? They stormed the Capitol looking for representatives to capture. AOC is one of the biggest targets for the right, she's a sexual-abuse victim, and had to hide in a bathroom in her office. That's a terrifying situation for anyone.

And who cares if she wasn't in the main building? The entire complex is connected.

Doesn't help some police and GOP congress critters seemed to be working with rioters.

The right will never understand why people - especially young people - love AOC. She's not really trollable...will be President one day.

You're basically saying anyone anywhere on Capitol Hill during the riot had a near death experience. Yeah, not how that works. Check the map bro.

BTW, check on who the CP takes orders from and get back to us.

[SDHornet]

AOChe on the Capitol Riot:

[∞∞∞]

How was it not near-death? They stormed the Capitol looking for representatives to capture. AOC is one of the biggest targets for the right, she's a sexual-abuse victim, and had to hide in a bathroom in her office. That's a terrifying situation for anyone.

And who cares if she wasn't in the main building? The entire complex is connected.

Doesn't help some police and GOP congress critters seemed to be working with rioters.

The right will never understand why people - especially young people - love AOC. She's not really trollable...will be President one day.

You're basically saying anyone anywhere on Capitol Hill during the riot had a near death experience. Yeah, not how that works. Check the map bro.

Only the right thinks this was not a serious situation for AOC. In fact, the "trolling" has strengthened her position with the left. The sympathy and support she's been getting is basically through the roof, especially since she actually interacts with constituents and Americans at a human level.

Repeat it after me: President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Gonna be in your lifetime SD.

[SDHornet]

[SDHornet]

You're basically saying anyone anywhere on Capitol Hill during the riot had a near death experience. Yeah, not how that works. Check the map bro.

Only the right thinks this was not a serious situation for AOC. In fact, the "trolling" has strengthened her position with the left. The sympathy and support she's been getting is basically through the roof, especially since she actually interacts with her constituents at a human level.

Repeat it after me: President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Gonna be in your lifetime SD.

She was never in danger.

We'll see if she becomes president. She is already Wall Street's girl so she is well on her way.

[∞∞∞]

Nothing like the right making fun of the trauma a sexual-abuse victim was experiencing to make people think their position is correct.

This is why the right is losing the generational war. Hell I might die on the most progressive nation on Earth at this rate.

I can only hope.

[SDHornet]

Nothing like the right making fun of the trauma a sexual-abuse victim was experiencing to make people think their position is correct.

This is why the right is losing the generational war. Hell I might die on the most progressive nation on Earth at this rate.

I can only hope.

Lol, what does that have to do with her lying about her "near death" experience during the Capitol Riot? She lied. Got called out for it. Has nothing to do with whatever she endured during her past.


Was AOChe lying about the "kids in cages" phot op a few years back becuase of her trauma too? BTW, didn't Biden* and Kamala promise to end the "kids in cages" on day 1? Didn't Biden*/Harris just commit to more "overflow facilities" aka cages for kids?

[∞∞∞]

You're not getting it.

It is a near-death experience for her. She's a trauma survivor and she felt vulnerable, as many women do during traumatic events.

The right also missed the entire point why she brought it up: to provide context for her feelings about a broader, bigger story that should be the headline (aka. an attack on democracy). But like conservatives often do, they completely missed the forest for the trees.

The attack on AOC has garnered her even more praise, sympathy, and press. But hey, don't stop your rivals when they're making mistakes. "Troll" her all you want as it only continues making her position stronger...whatever makes you feel good.

[SDHornet]

You're not getting it.

It is a near-death experience for her. She's a trauma survivor and she felt vulnerable, as many women do during traumatic events.

The right also missed the entire point why she brought it up: to provide context for her feelings about a broader, bigger story that should be the headline (aka. an attack on democracy). But like conservatives often do, they completely missed the forest for the trees.

This attack has garnered her even more praise, sympathy, and press. But whatever, don't stop your rivals when they're making mistakes. "Troll" her all you want when it only continues making her position even stronger.

No, I didn't miss anything. She is creating political theatre, got called out for it, and kept digging her hole deeper with the "the tunnels" weak ass narrative that you stupidly bought into.

BTW, we didn't even get into her accusing the cop that went in to make sure everyone in her area was safe of putting her in a "vulnerable situation". But yeah, trauma or something.

[∞∞∞]

Like I said, not gonna stop rivals when they're making a mistake. The right should definitely continue "calling her out."