Trump 2.0: MAGAA

[UNI88]

Reciprocal tariffs shouldn’t be controversial.

So you have no problem with Canada, Mexico, China responding to trump's tariffs with reciprocal tariffs?

Or are you going to try and argue that trump's initial tariffs of 2025 were just "reciprocal"? If so, then provide evidence that Canada was actually hitting the US with 25% tariffs before trump acted.

[BDKJMU]

Reciprocal tariffs shouldn’t be controversial.

So you have no problem with Canada, Mexico, China responding to trump's tariffs with reciprocal tariffs?

Or are you going to try and argue that trump's initial tariffs of 2025 were just "reciprocal"? If so, then provide evidence that Canada was actually hitting the US with 25% tariffs before trump acted.

..It is accurate that Canada imposes a tariff of approximately 250% on U.S. exports of certain dairy products into Canada, and even more with Canada’s 25% retaliatory tariffs in place. However, that tariff would only apply if we were able to reach and exceed the quota on U.S. dairy exports agreed to under the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). Frustratingly, the U.S. has never gotten close to exceeding our USMCA quotas because Canada has erected various protectionist measures that fly in the face of their trade obligations made under USMCA…

https://www.idfa.org/news/idfa-statemen ... y-products

[UNI88]

So you have no problem with Canada, Mexico, China responding to trump's tariffs with reciprocal tariffs?

Or are you going to try and argue that trump's initial tariffs of 2025 were just "reciprocal"? If so, then provide evidence that Canada was actually hitting the US with 25% tariffs before trump acted.

..It is accurate that Canada imposes a tariff of approximately 250% on U.S. exports of certain dairy products into Canada, and even more with Canada’s 25% retaliatory tariffs in place. However, that tariff would only apply if we were able to reach and exceed the quota on U.S. dairy exports agreed to under the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). Frustratingly, the U.S. has never gotten close to exceeding our USMCA quotas because Canada has erected various protectionist measures that fly in the face of their trade obligations made under USMCA…

https://www.idfa.org/news/idfa-statemen ... y-products

What the IDFA doesn't say is that the US is not hitting its allowed zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product so the tariff was effectively 0%.

Canada overall has lower tariffs than the US. If trump wants to put in place tariffs in response to US goods that are actually under a Canadian tariffs then Canada is justified in retaliating with tariffs corresponding to Canadian goods that are actually under US tariffs.

The whole illegal immigration and fentanyl things are just weak excuses to cover up trump's irrational animosity toward Canada.

Who negotiated the USMCA? Tell us your lame excuses for why he isn't responsible for the deal he negotiated.

[Caribbean Hen]

What?

Who?

It was intentional and goes back before your time, kid.

just a wellness check on my part

[kalm]

It was intentional and goes back before your time, kid.

just a wellness check on my part

Always a good idea. How ya doin’?

[kalm]

The irony of dumb people wanting to eliminate education funding and research.

The education secretary, Linda McMahon, presented sweeping reductions at the US Department of Education as an efficiency drive, hailing firings and funding cuts as a “significant step toward restoring the greatness” of the country’s schools system.

Staff inside the department disagree.

The Trump administration has axed many research programs which have yet to be completed, according to workers, putting years of work – on which the federal government spent tens of millions of dollars – to waste.

Nearly 50% of staff at the US Department of Education was fired last week, with more than 1,300 employees given termination notices and nearly 600 workers taking voluntary resignation offers. Offices covering research, data and statistics were decimated.

A Department of Education employee who survived the cuts likened the experience to a funeral. “People were crying, breaking down at the human toll,” they told the Guardian. “These people are not bureaucratic bloat: they’re vital to helping improve educational outcomes for our nation’s children, and to ensuring states comply with the law. It’s death by a thousand cuts.”

Staff were particularly concerned about the decision to halt research projects, years after they started, that were nearly complete.

Nearly all employees at the department’s Institute of Educational Sciences (IES) were fired, and more than 160 education research funding contracts and grants worth $900m were cancelled.

Many of the research projects were commissioned to take place over five years. “We were in year four, which means there was a lot of research that was almost done, but is now never going to see the light of day,” one fired IES employee said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... SApp_Other

[BDKJMU]

https://www.idfa.org/news/idfa-statemen ... y-products

What the IDFA doesn't say is that the US is not hitting its allowed zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product so the tariff was effectively 0%.

Canada overall has lower tariffs than the US. If trump wants to put in place tariffs in response to US goods that are actually under a Canadian tariffs then Canada is justified in retaliating with tariffs corresponding to Canadian goods that are actually under US tariffs.

The whole illegal immigration and fentanyl things are just weak excuses to cover up trump's irrational animosity toward Canada.

Who negotiated the USMCA? Tell us your lame excuses for why he isn't responsible for the deal he negotiated.

You skipped over this part:

Frustratingly, the U.S. has never gotten close to exceeding our USMCA quotas because Canada has erected various protectionist measures that fly in the face of their trade obligations made under USMCA…

[Caribbean Hen]

just a wellness check on my part

Always a good idea. How ya doin’?

Feeling inspired knowing our students test scores will be going back up…

[kalm]

Always a good idea. How ya doin’?

Feeling inspired knowing our students test scores will be going back up…

Why do you think they’ll go back up?

[Bobcat]

No Dept of Education.

They have to go up they cant go any lower.

[Caribbean Hen]

Feeling inspired knowing our students test scores will be going back up…

Why do you think they’ll go back up?

Nowhere else to go

[kalm]

Why do you think they’ll go back up?

Nowhere else to go

Sure there is. We’re still near the top in outcomes. Propped up of course mostly by blue states.

[Caribbean Hen]

Feeling inspired knowing our students test scores will be going back up…

Why do you think they’ll go back up?

Because we had better scores before the Dept of Education and kids were much better at math

[Bobcat]

Why do you think they’ll go back up?

Because we had better scores before the Dept of Education and kids were much better at math

Those numbers were just propped up by the red states

[kalm]

Why do you think they’ll go back up?

Because we had better scores before the Dept of Education and kids were much better at math

Did we? Link?

If true, peg it to the role the Dept. of Ed played compared with other factors.

[UNI88]

What the IDFA doesn't say is that the US is not hitting its allowed zero-tariff maximum in any category of dairy product so the tariff was effectively 0%.

Canada overall has lower tariffs than the US. If trump wants to put in place tariffs in response to US goods that are actually under a Canadian tariffs then Canada is justified in retaliating with tariffs corresponding to Canadian goods that are actually under US tariffs.

The whole illegal immigration and fentanyl things are just weak excuses to cover up trump's irrational animosity toward Canada.

Who negotiated the USMCA? Tell us your lame excuses for why he isn't responsible for the deal he negotiated.

You skipped over this part:

Frustratingly, the U.S. has never gotten close to exceeding our USMCA quotas because Canada has erected various protectionist measures that fly in the face of their trade obligations made under USMCA…

You want me to believe a press release by a trade association without corroborating evidence? I know just a teeny bit about how trade associations work. What specifically are those protectionist measures? If Canada has them for some products, do you think the US doesn't?

I have yet to see a reasonable justification for imposing tariffs on Canada.

Side questions:
- If Canada was the 51st state, how many electoral votes would they have?
- How would those electoral votes likely have impacted the 2024 election?
- What about future elections?

[UNI88]

Because we had better scores before the Dept of Education and kids were much better at math

Did we? Link?

If true, peg it to the role the Dept. of Ed played compared with other factors.

I would blame the No Child Left Behind and Every Student Succeeds for the plateauing and the pandemic for the drop more than the formation of the Dept of Education.

I agree that education should be the responsibility of the states but suddenly and capriciously depriving schools of the funding they receive from the federal government is a recipe for disaster. If we're going to give primary responsibility for education back to the states then that funding should go with it.

[Caribbean Hen]

Did we? Link?

If true, peg it to the role the Dept. of Ed played compared with other factors.

I would blame the No Child Left Behind and Every Student Succeeds for the plateauing and the pandemic for the drop more than the formation of the Dept of Education.

I agree that education should be the responsibility of the states but suddenly and capriciously depriving schools of the funding they receive from the federal government is a recipe for disaster. If we're going to give primary responsibility for education back to the states then that funding should go with it.

well we have been pouring money into the education system with very little return on investment, money doesn't cure everything

[UNI88]

Trump just signed an executive order 'to begin eliminating' the Department of Education

Trump signed the order alongside the Republican governors of Texas, Indiana, Florida and Ohio, who he claimed would now oversee schools “as good as Norway, Denmark, Sweden.”

“Then you’ll have some laggards,” the president continued. “We can all tell you who the laggards will be, but let’s not get into that.” He went on to mention his home state of New York, which has a Democratic governor.

Average Act Score By State

• New York - 25.3
• Indiana - 22.8
• Texas - 19.8
• Ohio - 19.4
• Florida - 19.0

Florida and Texas have a long way to go.

[Bobcat]

Trump needs to send some Trans De Aragua prisoners to Boasbergs house and force that guy to house them until this idiot retard judge figures things out. Fuck these people and the criminals that support the terrorists.

We need to go scorched earth on them

[kalm]

Did we? Link?

If true, peg it to the role the Dept. of Ed played compared with other factors.

I would blame the No Child Left Behind and Every Student Succeeds for the plateauing and the pandemic for the drop more than the formation of the Dept of Education.

I agree that education should be the responsibility of the states but suddenly and capriciously depriving schools of the funding they receive from the federal government is a recipe for disaster. If we're going to give primary responsibility for education back to the states then that funding should go with it.

Yep. I get the concerns about its role in financial aid but that could be addressed without blowing the entire thing up. It’s pretty tough to lay the performance issues at its feet. Local and state systems play a huge roll in that.

[kalm]

Trump needs to send some Trans De Aragua prisoners to Boasbergs house and force that guy to house them until this idiot retard judge figures things out. Fuck these people and the criminals that support the terrorists.

We need to go scorched earth on them

That sounds rather terroristic itself lol.

We’re a nation of laws.

I suggest you go find a lawless libertarian country to live in.

[kalm]

I would blame the No Child Left Behind and Every Student Succeeds for the plateauing and the pandemic for the drop more than the formation of the Dept of Education.

I agree that education should be the responsibility of the states but suddenly and capriciously depriving schools of the funding they receive from the federal government is a recipe for disaster. If we're going to give primary responsibility for education back to the states then that funding should go with it.

well we have been pouring money into the education system with very little return on investment, money doesn't cure everything

I agree but most education issues are socio-economic.

[UNI88]

well we have been pouring money into the education system with very little return on investment, money doesn't cure everything

I agree but most education issues are socio-economic.

Socio-economic issues play a big part but there is a cultural element that plays a big part as well. Some cultures don't place as great of a value on education as others. As a result, parents in those cultures are less likely to encourage their children to do well in school. Students from poorer areas tend to do worse than students from wealthier areas but the results for poor students whose parent(s) are actively involved in and encourage their education is closer to that of the students from wealthier areas.

[Bobcat]

well we have been pouring money into the education system with very little return on investment, money doesn't cure everything

I agree but most education issues are socio-economic.

Wrong, most education issues are shitty parents, the money excuse is bullshit and very racist