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UNI88 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 1:14 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 12:57 pm

Yep it’s only logical but maybe the tide has started to turn … we can only hope
Tell me you haven't been in a public school in a long time and don't know many if any teachers without telling me you haven't been in a public school in a long time and don't know many if any teachers.

In other words, you're both talking out of your assholes, repeating crap from MAQA yahoo echo chambers and don't really know what the hell you're talking about.

The vast majority of teachers are doing the best they can to educate kids on the subjects (reading, writing, math, sciences, etc.) they're supposed to educate them about.

Public education is a lynchpin of America being the Land of Opportunity. It's fair to ask those who attempt to undermine public education why they hate America.
math? nope, these kids are horrible at math
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Bobcat wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 2:48 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 1:14 pm

Tell me you haven't been in a public school in a long time and don't know many if any teachers without telling me you haven't been in a public school in a long time and don't know many if any teachers.

In other words, you're both talking out of your assholes, repeating crap from MAQA yahoo echo chambers and don't really know what the hell you're talking about.

The vast majority of teachers are doing the best they can to educate kids on the subjects (reading, writing, math, sciences, etc.) they're supposed to educate them about.

Public education is a lynchpin of America being the Land of Opportunity. It's fair to ask those who attempt to undermine public education why they hate America.
I couldn't tell you one maga website if you held a gun to my head. I don't read propaganda like you do.

I do however know quite a few local public school teachers who are friends or acquaintances of my wife. They are 100% retards and it amazes me anyone would let their kid near them. I don't even when they occasionally come over to the house. I take my kids boating or fishing when that happens. Hell I would take them to a Michael Vick dogfight before letting my kids around people like most public school teachers. Its no different anywhere else. You are mentally ill if you would take a job that pays that little to start with. Those that can, Do. Those that cant, teach
I can translate:

He reads as many MAGA sources as he can find. And he knows zero public school teachers.
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Still batting below the Mendoza line I see
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 3:05 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 1:14 pm

Tell me you haven't been in a public school in a long time and don't know many if any teachers without telling me you haven't been in a public school in a long time and don't know many if any teachers.

In other words, you're both talking out of your assholes, repeating crap from MAQA yahoo echo chambers and don't really know what the hell you're talking about.

The vast majority of teachers are doing the best they can to educate kids on the subjects (reading, writing, math, sciences, etc.) they're supposed to educate them about.

Public education is a lynchpin of America being the Land of Opportunity. It's fair to ask those who attempt to undermine public education why they hate America.
math? nope, these kids are horrible at math
We need to be more like Europe and China. Want better education outcomes, model after the socialist Finns.
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China takes the kiddies cell phones away and makes them learn math the old fashioned way, not sure why they didn’t participate in 2023. It’s a winning strategy for them

Tech making kids dumb

“deterioration in math was particularly devastating. American students scored 13 points lower than in 2018, equivalent to losing two-thirds of a year of education in the subject. These were the lowest U.S. math scores recorded in the history of the PISA math test, “

https://hechingerreport.org/proof-point ... 0in%202022.)
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:21 pm China takes the kiddies cell phones away and makes them learn math the old fashioned way, not sure why they didn’t participate in 2023. It’s a winning strategy for them

Tech making kids dumb

“deterioration in math was particularly devastating. American students scored 13 points lower than in 2018, equivalent to losing two-thirds of a year of education in the subject. These were the lowest U.S. math scores recorded in the history of the PISA math test, “

https://hechingerreport.org/proof-point ... 0in%202022.)
Tech is neutral. It can also make kids smart. But as this article points out, it’s not just a U.S. problem. Nor is it some trans-socialist indoctrination plot created by hippie school teachers. Nor is it just a math problem.
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“ Even if school closures eventually prove to be a more important factor, the pandemic isn’t the only reason students are struggling. Global scores have generally been declining for the past two decades. One hypothesis is that technology is distracting teenagers. Students were asked about technology distraction for the first time on the 2022 PISA. Forty-five percent of students said they feel anxious if their phones are not near them. Sixty-five percent report being distracted by digital devices during math lessons. Up to an hour a day of computer time for leisure was associated with higher performance. But heavy users, those who spent five to seven hours on computers for fun, had lower academic performance, even after adjusting for family and school socioeconomic profiles”
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Being wrong about a topic is called post partisanism - kalm

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kalm wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:27 pm
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:21 pm China takes the kiddies cell phones away and makes them learn math the old fashioned way, not sure why they didn’t participate in 2023. It’s a winning strategy for them

Tech making kids dumb

“deterioration in math was particularly devastating. American students scored 13 points lower than in 2018, equivalent to losing two-thirds of a year of education in the subject. These were the lowest U.S. math scores recorded in the history of the PISA math test, “

https://hechingerreport.org/proof-point ... 0in%202022.)
Tech is neutral. It can also make kids smart. But as this article points out, it’s not just a U.S. problem. Nor is it some trans-socialist indoctrination plot created by hippie school teachers. Nor is it just a math problem.
Its 90% on the shitty teachers the USA has. Im with the guy in the red hat above. He gets it.
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Bobcat wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:39 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:27 pm

Tech is neutral. It can also make kids smart. But as this article points out, it’s not just a U.S. problem. Nor is it some trans-socialist indoctrination plot created by hippie school teachers. Nor is it just a math problem.
Its 90% on the shitty teachers the USA has. Im with the guy in the red hat above. He gets it.
Teachers in New Jersey will no longer be required to pass a basic reading, writing and mathematics test to be eligible for public schools, according to a new law.

Act 1669, which was signed into law by Gov. Phil Murphy, D., in June, went into effect on Wednesday at the start of the new year
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:45 am
Bobcat wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:39 am

Its 90% on the shitty teachers the USA has. Im with the guy in the red hat above. He gets it.
Teachers in New Jersey will no longer be required to pass a basic reading, writing and mathematics test to be eligible for public schools, according to a new law.

Act 1669, which was signed into law by Gov. Phil Murphy, D., in June, went into effect on Wednesday at the start of the new year
Is prior training or an education degree required?
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Bobcat wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:39 am
kalm wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:27 pm

Tech is neutral. It can also make kids smart. But as this article points out, it’s not just a U.S. problem. Nor is it some trans-socialist indoctrination plot created by hippie school teachers. Nor is it just a math problem.
Its 90% on the shitty teachers the USA has. Im with the guy in the red hat above. He gets it.
Sounds like you should observe a school in action. See what’s being taught.

That is of course if they allow you within 500 feet of one.
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:45 am Teachers in New Jersey will no longer be required to pass a basic reading, writing and mathematics test to be eligible for public schools, according to a new law.

Act 1669, which was signed into law by Gov. Phil Murphy, D., in June, went into effect on Wednesday at the start of the new year
What's the context?

What do they need and are those things already covered under other requirements? For example, are they required to have an education degree which would cover basic reading, writing and mathematics?

Is this in response to a shortage of teachers? If there is a shortage, why and what should they do about it?
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kalm wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:27 am
Bobcat wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:39 am

Its 90% on the shitty teachers the USA has. Im with the guy in the red hat above. He gets it.
Sounds like you should observe a school in action. See what’s being taught.

That is of course if they allow you within 500 feet of one.
And you are hanging around schools? Cringe
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